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These all use the same generators as archy.  
These all use the same generators as archy.  


[[686/675]] gives beatles, splitting the fifth in two. [[8748/8575]] gives immunized, splitting the twelfth in two. [[50/49]] gives pajara with a semioctave period. [[392/375]] gives progress, splitting the twelfth in three. [[250/243]] gives porcupine, splitting the fourth in three. [[126/125]] gives augene with a 1/3-octave period. [[4375/4374]] gives modus, splitting the fifth in four. [[3125/3024]] gives brightstone. [[9604/9375]] gives fervor. [[3125/2916]] gives sixix. [[3125/3087]] gives passion. Those split the generator in five in various ways. [[28/27]] gives blacksmith with a 1/5-octave period. Finally, [[15625/15552]] gives catalan, splitting the twelfth in six.  
[[686/675]] gives beatles, splitting the fifth in two. [[8748/8575]] gives immunized, splitting the twelfth in two. [[50/49]] gives pajara with a semioctave period. [[392/375]] gives progress, splitting the twelfth in three. [[250/243]] gives porcupine, splitting the fourth in three. [[126/125]] gives augene with a 1/3-octave period. [[4375/4374]] gives modus, splitting the fifth in four. [[3125/3024]] gives brightstone. [[9604/9375]] gives fervor. [[3125/2916]] gives sixix. [[3125/3087]] gives passion. Those split the generator in five in various ways. [[28/27]] gives blackwood with a 1/5-octave period. Finally, [[15625/15552]] gives catalan, splitting the twelfth in six.  


Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:  
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:  
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==== Subgroup extensions ====
==== Subgroup extensions ====
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–Gb). This is called supra, given right below. Discussed elsewhere is [[suhajira]] of the [[neutral clan #Suhajira|neutral clan]].
Omitting prime 5, archy can be extended to the 2.3.7.11 subgroup by identifying 11/8 as a diminished fourth (C–G♭). This is called supra, given right below. Discussed elsewhere is [[suhajira]] of the [[neutral clan #Suhajira|neutral clan]].


=== Supra ===
=== Supra ===
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Superpyth (5-limit)]].''


Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as {{nowrap| 22 & 27 }}. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D#). 49edo remains an obvious tuning choice.  
Superpyth, virtually the canonical extension, adds [[245/243]] and [[1728/1715]] to the comma list and can be described as {{nowrap| 22 & 27 }}. ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D♯). 49edo remains an obvious tuning choice.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
The canonical extension to the 13-limit finds the ~11/8 at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–Dx) and finds the ~13/8 at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–Fx).  
The canonical extension to the 13-limit finds the ~11/8 at +16 generator steps, as a double-augmented second (C–D𝄪) and finds the ~13/8 at +13 generator steps, as a double-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪).  


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1196.667{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.360{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1196.6666{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.3602{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.288{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.2878{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 27e, 49f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 27e, 49f, 125bcddeeeff, 174bbcdddeeeeffff }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.105
Badness (Sintel): 1.11
{{todo|unify precision}}


==== Thomas ====
==== Thomas ====
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=== Suprapyth ===
=== Suprapyth ===
Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth (C–Gb), and finds the ~13/8 at the diminished seventh (C–Bbb).  
Suprapyth finds the ~11/8 at the diminished fifth (C–G♭), and finds the ~13/8 at the diminished seventh (C–B𝄫).  


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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== Quasisuper ==
== Quasisuper ==
Quasisuper can be described as {{nowrap| 17c & 22 }}, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–Gbb).  
Quasisuper can be described as {{nowrap| 17c & 22 }}, with the ~5/4 mapped to -13 generator steps, as a double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫).  


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[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Main| Ultrapyth }}
{{Main| Ultrapyth }}


Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[the Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–Cx).
Ultrapyth can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.13/5 [[the Biosphere #Oceanfront|oceanfront]] temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–C𝄪).


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[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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== Quasiultra ==
== Quasiultra ==
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the {{nowrap| 27 & 32 }} temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–Abbb).  
Quasiultra is to ultrapyth what quasisuper is to superpyth. It is the {{nowrap| 27 & 32 }} temperament, mapping the ~5/4 to -18 fifths as a double diminished sixth (C–A𝄫♭).  


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[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }}
{{See also| Schismatic family #Schism }}


Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–Fb) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used.  
Schism tempers out the [[schisma]], mapping the ~5/4 to -8 fifths as a diminished fourth (C–F♭) as does any schismic temperament. 12edo is recommendable tuning, though 29edo (29d val), 41edo (41d val), and 53edo (53dd val) can be used.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7