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| Name = Pythagorean limma, Pythagorean diatonic semitone, 3-limit minor 2nd, blackwood comma | | Name = Threerish minor second, Pythagorean limma, Pythagorean diatonic semitone, 3-limit minor 2nd, blackwood comma | ||
| Color name = sw2, sawa 2nd | | Color name = sw2, sawa 2nd | ||
| Sound = jid_256_243_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3 | | Sound = jid_256_243_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3 | ||
Revision as of 10:45, 27 September 2025
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Pythagorean limma,
Pythagorean diatonic semitone,
3-limit minor 2nd,
blackwood comma
reduced subharmonic
[sound info]
The interval 256/243, the Pythagorean limma or Pythagorean diatonic semitone or the 3-limit minor 2nd factors as 28/35, is about 90.2 cents in size, and is the diatonic semitone in Pythagorean tuning. It can be generated by stacking five 4/3 just perfect fourths and octave-reducing the resulting interval.
Approximation
This interval is well approximated by any tuning generated with accurate octaves and fifths. For example, 4\53 is a very good approximation.
Temperaments
When this ratio is taken as a comma to be tempered in the 5-limit, it produces the blackwood temperament, and it may be called the blackwood comma, named after Easley Blackwood Jr. Edos tempering it out include 5edo, 10edo, 15edo, 20edo, 25edo and 30edo. See limmic temperaments for a number of other temperaments where it is tempered out.
Notation
In musical notations that employ the diatonic chain-of-fifths, such as the ups and downs notation, the limma is represented by the distances between B and C, as well as between E and F.
The scale is structured with the following step pattern:
- A to B: whole tone
- B to C: limma
- C to D: whole tone
- D to E: whole tone
- E to F: limma
- F to G: whole tone
- G to A: whole tone
This pattern highlights the placement of the limma intervals between the note pairs above, distinguishing them from the whole tone that occur between the other note pairs.
See also
- 243/128 – its octave complement
- 729/512 – its fifth complement
- 16/15 – the classic (5-limit) diatonic semitone
- Gallery of just intervals
- Medium comma
- Pythagorean tuning
