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{{Technical data page}}
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The '''dicot family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[25/24]], the classical chromatic semitone. The head of this family, dicot, is [[generator|generated]] by a classical third (major and minor mean the same thing), and two such thirds give a fifth. In fact, {{nowrap|(5/4)<sup>2</sup> {{=}} (3/2)(25/24)}}.  
The '''dicot family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] [[25/24]], the classical chromatic semitone.  
 
== Dicot ==
The head of this family, dicot, is [[generator|generated]] by a classical third (major and minor mean the same thing), and two such thirds give a fifth. In fact, {{nowrap|(5/4)<sup>2</sup> {{=}} (3/2)(25/24)}}.  


Possible tunings for dicot are [[7edo]], [[10edo]], [[17edo]], [[24edo]] using the val {{val| 24 38 55 }} (24c), and [[31edo]] using the val {{val| 31 49 71 }} (31c). In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and sixths and pretending that these are 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve a lot of "pretending", dicot is close to the edge of what can be sensibly called a temperament at all. In other words, it is an [[exotemperament]].
Possible tunings for dicot are [[7edo]], [[10edo]], [[17edo]], [[24edo]] using the val {{val| 24 38 55 }} (24c), and [[31edo]] using the val {{val| 31 49 71 }} (31c). In a sense, what dicot is all about is using neutral thirds and sixths and pretending that these are 5-limit, and like any temperament which seems to involve a lot of "pretending", dicot is close to the edge of what can be sensibly called a temperament at all. In other words, it is an [[exotemperament]].


== Dicot ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


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=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
The second comma of the [[Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot adds 36/35, sharpie adds 28/27, and dichotic adds 64/63, all retaining the same period and generator.  
The second comma of the [[normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at. Septimal dicot adds 36/35, flattie adds 21/20, sharpie adds 28/27, and dichotic adds 64/63, all retaining the same period and generator.  


Decimal adds 49/48, sidi adds 245/243, and jamesbond adds 81/80. Here decimal divides the period to 1/2 octave, and sidi uses 9/7 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/3 and 8/5 neutral sixth. Jamesbond has a period of 1/7 octave, and uses an approximate 15/14 as generator.
Decimal adds 49/48, sidi adds 245/243, and jamesbond adds 81/80. Here decimal divides the period to 1/2 octave, and sidi uses 9/7 as a generator, with two of them making up the combined 5/3 and 8/5 neutral sixth. Jamesbond has a period of 1/7 octave, and uses an approximate 15/14 as generator.
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Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:  
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are:  
* ''[[Geryon]]'' → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Geryon|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Geryon]]'' → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Geryon|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Jamesbond]]'' → [[7th-octave temperaments #Jamesbond|7th-octave temperaments]]


The rest are considered below.  
The rest are considered below.  


=== 2.3.5.11 subgroup ===
=== 2.3.5.11 subgroup ===
The 2.3.5.11-subgroup extension is related to [[#Septimal dicot|septimal dicot]], [[#Sharpie|sharpie]], and [[#Dichotic|dichotic]].  
The 2.3.5.11-subgroup extension maps [[11/9]]~[[27/22]] to the neutral third. As such, it is related to most of the septimal extensions.  


Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
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Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 0 2 | 0 2 1 0 5 }}
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 0 2 | 0 2 1 0 5 }}
: gencom: [2 5/4; 25/24 45/44]


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 0 2 4 | 0 2 1 0 5 -1 }}
Gencom mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 0 2 4 | 0 2 1 0 5 -1 }}
: gencom: [2 5/4; 25/24 40/39 45/44]


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1202.433{{c}}, ~6/5 = 351.237{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1202.433{{c}}, ~5/4 = 351.237{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 350.978{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~5/4 = 350.978{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3e, 7, 17 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 3e, 7, 17 }}
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== Flattie ==
== Flattie ==
This temperament used to be known as '''flat'''. Unlike septimal dicot where 7/6 is added to the neutral third, here 8/7 is added instead.  
This temperament used to be known as ''flat''. Unlike septimal dicot where 7/6 is added to the neutral third, here 8/7 is added instead.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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== Sharpie ==
== Sharpie ==
This temperament used to be known as '''sharp'''. This is where you find 7/6 at the major second and 7/4 at the major sixth.  
This temperament used to be known as ''sharp''. This is where you find 7/6 at the major second and 7/4 at the major sixth.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7