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27edo is also the point where superpyth tunes 5/4 to the familiar 400 cents of [[12edo]], and where in sharper tunings, different mappings of 5/4 arise with more accuracy (see [[quasiultra]] and [[ultrapyth]]), somewhat analogous to [[19edo]] (which represents [[1/3-comma meantone]] and is on the edge between septimal meantone and [[flattone]]). The same goes for flatter tunings than 22edo (see [[quasisuper]] and [[dominant (temperament)|dominant]]). Furthermore, the 11-limit extension works strictly within 22edo and 27e-edo, with 22edo conflating 11/10 with 12/11, and 27e-edo conflating 11/8 with 7/5. There is an alternative extension, suprapyth, that works for tunings in the range of 17edo to 22edo, however.

However, a case can also be made for tuning archy even sharper than 27edo, which involves the notion of splitting the error of 4/3 into that of 8/7 and 7/6, a similar logic to Zarlino's preference for [[2/7-comma meantone]]. This would imply 2/5-comma archy, where [[49/48]] is tuned justly, and 8/7 and 7/6 are both 1/5 a septimal comma off, and which is closely approximated by [[32edo]]. Unlike in the case of meantone, [[CEE]] optimization agrees with the notion of such a sharp tuning; reading off the comma 64/63, both 3 and 7 must be sharp, and because the comma has two 3's and one 7 in the denominator, 3 is tuned twice as sharp as 7 in the CEE tuning. In this range of archy, the ~~main~~ extension to prime 5 is in fact not superpyth, but ultrapyth.

However, a case can also be made for tuning archy even sharper than 27edo, which involves the notion of splitting the error of 4/3 into that of 8/7 and 7/6, a similar logic to Zarlino's preference for [[2/7-comma meantone]]. This would imply 2/5-comma archy, where [[49/48]] is tuned justly, and 8/7 and 7/6 are both 1/5 a septimal comma off, and which is closely approximated by [[32edo]]. Unlike in the case of meantone, [[CEE]] optimization agrees with the notion of such a sharp tuning; reading off the comma 64/63, both 3 and 7 must be sharp, and because the comma has two 3's and one 7 in the denominator, 3 is tuned twice as sharp as 7 in the CEE tuning. In this range of archy, the best extension to prime 5 is in fact not superpyth, but ultrapyth.

Finally, it may be noted that the {{w|plastic number}} has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator (~4/3) and assuming a pure-octave period, constitutes an extremely sharp variety of archy. This can be explained since archy equates [[21/16]] and [[4/3]], making the 9:12:16:21 chord evenly spaced by ~4/3, and when keeping {{nowrap|~9 + ~12 {{=}} ~21}} the generator becomes the plastic number.

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 edo is also the point where superpyth tunes 5/4 to the familiar 400 cents of [[12edo]], and where in sharper tunings, different mappings of 5/4 arise with more accuracy (see [[quasiultra]] and [[ultrapyth]]), somewhat analogous to [[19edo]] (which represents [[1/3-comma meantone]] and is on the edge between septimal meantone and [[flattone]]). The same goes for flatter tunings than 22edo (see [[quasisuper]] and [[dominant (temperament)|dominant]]). Furthermore, the 11-limit extension works strictly within 22edo and 27e-edo, with 22edo conflating 11/10 with 12/11, and 27e-edo conflating 11/8 with 7/5. There is an alternative extension, suprapyth, that works for tunings in the range of 17edo to 22edo, however.
-However, a case can also be made for tuning archy even sharper than 27edo, which involves the notion of splitting the error of 4/3 into that of 8/7 and 7/6, a similar logic to Zarlino's preference for [[2/7-comma meantone]]. This would imply 2/5-comma archy, where [[49/48]] is tuned justly, and 8/7 and 7/6 are both 1/5 a septimal comma off, and which is closely approximated by [[32edo]]. Unlike in the case of meantone, [[CEE]] optimization agrees with the notion of such a sharp tuning; reading off the comma 64/63, both 3 and 7 must be sharp, and because the comma has two 3's and one 7 in the denominator, 3 is tuned twice as sharp as 7 in the CEE tuning. In this range of archy, the main extension to prime 5 is in fact not superpyth, but ultrapyth.
+However, a case can also be made for tuning archy even sharper than 27edo, which involves the notion of splitting the error of 4/3 into that of 8/7 and 7/6, a similar logic to Zarlino's preference for [[2/7-comma meantone]]. This would imply 2/5-comma archy, where [[49/48]] is tuned justly, and 8/7 and 7/6 are both 1/5 a septimal comma off, and which is closely approximated by [[32edo]]. Unlike in the case of meantone, [[CEE]] optimization agrees with the notion of such a sharp tuning; reading off the comma 64/63, both 3 and 7 must be sharp, and because the comma has two 3's and one 7 in the denominator, 3 is tuned twice as sharp as 7 in the CEE tuning. In this range of archy, the best extension to prime 5 is in fact not superpyth, but ultrapyth.
 Finally, it may be noted that the {{w|plastic number}} has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator (~4/3) and assuming a pure-octave period, constitutes an extremely sharp variety of archy. This can be explained since archy equates [[21/16]] and [[4/3]], making the 9:12:16:21 chord evenly spaced by ~4/3, and when keeping {{nowrap|~9 + ~12 {{=}} ~21}} the generator becomes the plastic number.

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