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The [[5-limit]] parent [[comma]] for the '''diaschismic family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma]]. The [[period]] is half an [[2/1|octave]], and the [[generator]] is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]], or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a MOS of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.
The [[5-limit]] parent [[comma]] for the '''diaschismic family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma]]. The [[period]] is half an [[2/1|octave]], and the [[generator]] is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]], or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a [[mos]] of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities.


== Diaschismic ==
== Diaschismic ==
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A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds [[126/125]] or [[5120/5103]] to the set of commas, and it can also be called {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }}. However described, diaschismic has a 1/2-octave period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58edo.
A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds [[126/125]] or [[5120/5103]] to the set of commas, and it can also be called {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }}. However described, diaschismic has a 1/2-octave period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58edo.


Diaschismic extends naturally to the 17-limit, for which the same tunings may be used, making it one of the most important of the higher-limit rank-2 temperaments. Adding the 11-limit adds the commas 176/175, 896/891 and 441/440. The 13-limit yields 196/195, 351/350, and 364/363; the 17-limit adds 136/135, 221/220, and 442/441. If you want to explore higher-limit harmonies, diaschismic is certainly one excellent way to do it; Mos of 34 notes and even more the 46-note mos will encompass very great deal of it. Of course 46 or 58 equal provide alternatives which in many ways are similar, particularly in the case of 58.
Diaschismic extends naturally to the 17-limit, for which the same tunings may be used, making it one of the most important of the higher-limit rank-2 temperaments. Adding the 11-limit adds the commas 176/175, 896/891 and 441/440. The 13-limit yields 196/195, 351/350, and 364/363; the 17-limit adds 136/135, 221/220, and 442/441. If you want to explore higher-limit harmonies, diaschismic is certainly one excellent way to do it; [[mos]] of 34 notes and even more the 46-note mos will encompass very great deal of it. Of course 46 or 58 equal provide alternatives which in many ways are similar, particularly in the case of 58.


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=== No-19s 23-limit (Na"Naa') ===
=== 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.23 subgroup (Na"Naa') ===
<b>Na"Naa'</b> is a remarkable subgroup temperament of {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }} with a prime harmonic of 23.
<b>Na"Naa'</b> is a remarkable subgroup temperament of {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }} with a prime harmonic of 23. It is yet to be found why it got this strange name.  


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== Srutal ==
== Srutal ==
{{See also| Srutal vs diaschismic }}
{{See also| Srutal vs diaschismic }}
Srutal can be described as the 34d & 46 temperament, where 7/4 is located at 15 generator steps, or the double-augmented fifth (C–Gx). 80edo and 126edo are among the possible tunings. Srutal, shrutar and bidia have similar 19-limit properties, tempering out 190/189, related to rank-3 [[julius]].


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=== 19-limit ===
=== 19-limit ===
Srutal, shrutar and bidia have similar 19-limit properties, tempering out 190/189, related to rank-3 [[julius]].
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== Keen ==
== Keen ==
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas. It may also be described as the {{nowrap| 22 & 56 }} temperament. [[78edo]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where keen, {{multival| 2 -4 18 -12 … }}, is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the commas.
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas. It may also be described as the {{nowrap| 22 & 56 }} temperament. [[78edo]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where the temperament is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the list of commas.


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 4 0 22 43 | 0 1 -2 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 4 0 22 43 | 0 1 -2 -5 }}
: mapping generators: ~25/21, ~3


{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24 }}
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 2 | 0 3 -6 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 2 | 0 3 -6 5 }}
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~9/7


{{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 10 -33 -1 57 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 10 -33 -1 57 }}
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 2 7 6 | 0 3 -6 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 2 7 6 | 0 3 -6 -1 }}
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~8/7


{{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 -2 -33 -20 29 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 -2 -33 -20 29 }}
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 -2 | 0 2 -4 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 -2 | 0 2 -4 7 }}
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~35/24


{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 14 -22 11 55 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 14 -22 11 55 }}
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 -15 | 0 2 -4 13 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 -15 | 0 2 -4 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~140/81


{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 26 -22 30 83 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 26 -22 30 83 }}
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 4 | 0 2 -4 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 4 | 0 2 -4 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~7/4


{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 2 -22 -8 27 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 2 -22 -8 27 }}
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 11 | 0 2 -4 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 11 | 0 2 -4 -5 }}
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~10/7


{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -10 -22 -27 -1 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -10 -22 -27 -1 }}
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 8 | 0 4 -8 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 8 | 0 4 -8 -3 }}
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~21/16


{{Multival|legend=1| 8 -16 -6 -44 -32 31 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 8 -16 -6 -44 -32 31 }}