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The [[5-limit]] parent [[comma]] for the '''diaschismic family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma]]. The [[period]] is half an [[2/1|octave]], and the [[generator]] is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]], or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a | The [[5-limit]] parent [[comma]] for the '''diaschismic family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] is 2048/2025, the [[diaschisma]]. The [[period]] is half an [[2/1|octave]], and the [[generator]] is a fifth. Three periods gives 1800 cents, and decreasing this by two fifths gives the major third. [[34edo]] is a good tuning choice, with [[46edo]], [[56edo]], [[58edo]], or [[80edo]] being other possibilities. Both [[12edo]] and [[22edo]] support it, and retuning them to a [[mos]] of diaschismic gives two scale possibilities. | ||
== Diaschismic == | == Diaschismic == | ||
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A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds [[126/125]] or [[5120/5103]] to the set of commas, and it can also be called {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }}. However described, diaschismic has a 1/2-octave period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58edo. | A simpler characterization than the one given by the normal comma list is that diaschismic adds [[126/125]] or [[5120/5103]] to the set of commas, and it can also be called {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }}. However described, diaschismic has a 1/2-octave period and a sharp fifth generator like pajara, but not so sharp, giving a more accurate but more complex temperament. [[58edo]] provides an excellent tuning, but an alternative is to make [[7/4]] just by making the fifth 703.897 cents, as opposed to 703.448 cents for 58edo. | ||
Diaschismic extends naturally to the 17-limit, for which the same tunings may be used, making it one of the most important of the higher-limit rank-2 temperaments. Adding the 11-limit adds the commas 176/175, 896/891 and 441/440. The 13-limit yields 196/195, 351/350, and 364/363; the 17-limit adds 136/135, 221/220, and 442/441. If you want to explore higher-limit harmonies, diaschismic is certainly one excellent way to do it; | Diaschismic extends naturally to the 17-limit, for which the same tunings may be used, making it one of the most important of the higher-limit rank-2 temperaments. Adding the 11-limit adds the commas 176/175, 896/891 and 441/440. The 13-limit yields 196/195, 351/350, and 364/363; the 17-limit adds 136/135, 221/220, and 442/441. If you want to explore higher-limit harmonies, diaschismic is certainly one excellent way to do it; [[mos]] of 34 notes and even more the 46-note mos will encompass very great deal of it. Of course 46 or 58 equal provide alternatives which in many ways are similar, particularly in the case of 58. | ||
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=== | === 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.23 subgroup (Na"Naa') === | ||
<b>Na"Naa'</b> is a remarkable subgroup temperament of {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }} with a prime harmonic of 23. | <b>Na"Naa'</b> is a remarkable subgroup temperament of {{nowrap| 46 & 58 }} with a prime harmonic of 23. It is yet to be found why it got this strange name. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.23 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.23 | ||
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== Srutal == | == Srutal == | ||
{{See also| Srutal vs diaschismic }} | {{See also| Srutal vs diaschismic }} | ||
Srutal can be described as the 34d & 46 temperament, where 7/4 is located at 15 generator steps, or the double-augmented fifth (C–Gx). 80edo and 126edo are among the possible tunings. Srutal, shrutar and bidia have similar 19-limit properties, tempering out 190/189, related to rank-3 [[julius]]. | |||
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=== 19-limit === | === 19-limit === | ||
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== Keen == | == Keen == | ||
Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas. It may also be described as the {{nowrap| 22 & 56 }} temperament. [[78edo]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where | Keen adds 875/864 as well as 2240/2187 to the set of commas. It may also be described as the {{nowrap| 22 & 56 }} temperament. [[78edo]] is a good tuning choice, and remains a good one in the 11-limit, where the temperament is really more interesting, adding 100/99 and 385/384 to the list of commas. | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 4 0 22 43 | 0 1 -2 -5 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 4 0 22 43 | 0 1 -2 -5 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~25/21, ~3 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -20 -22 -43 -24 }} | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 2 | 0 3 -6 5 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 2 | 0 3 -6 5 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~9/7 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 10 -33 -1 57 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 10 -33 -1 57 }} | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 2 7 6 | 0 3 -6 -1 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 2 7 6 | 0 3 -6 -1 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~8/7 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 -2 -33 -20 29 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 6 -12 -2 -33 -20 29 }} | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 -2 | 0 2 -4 7 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 -2 | 0 2 -4 7 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~35/24 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 14 -22 11 55 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 14 -22 11 55 }} | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 -15 | 0 2 -4 13 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 -15 | 0 2 -4 13 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~140/81 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 26 -22 30 83 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 26 -22 30 83 }} | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 4 | 0 2 -4 1 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 4 | 0 2 -4 1 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~7/4 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 2 -22 -8 27 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 2 -22 -8 27 }} | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 11 | 0 2 -4 -5 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 9 11 | 0 2 -4 -5 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~10/7 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -10 -22 -27 -1 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 4 -8 -10 -22 -27 -1 }} | ||
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 8 | 0 4 -8 -3 }} | {{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 11 8 | 0 4 -8 -3 }} | ||
: mapping generators: ~45/32, ~21/16 | |||
{{Multival|legend=1| 8 -16 -6 -44 -32 31 }} | {{Multival|legend=1| 8 -16 -6 -44 -32 31 }} |