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3-limit | The simplest 3-limit interval in the range of minor thirds is the Pythagorean minor third of [[32/27]], about 294{{c}} in size, which is generated by [[stacking]] three just perfect fourths of [[4/3]]. | ||
Much [[odd limit|simpler]] minor thirds exist in higher [[prime limit|limits]], however, for example: | Much [[odd limit|simpler]] minor thirds exist in higher [[prime limit|limits]], however, for example: | ||
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7/6 (266.9¢)
The minor third (m3), as a concrete interval region, is typically near 300 ¢ in size, distinct from the major third of roughly 400 ¢ and the neutral third of roughly 350 ¢. A rough tuning range for the minor third is about 260 to 330 ¢ according to Margo Schulter's theory of interval regions. Minor third in this sense refers both to the ~240–340 ¢ range as a whole, and to a specific subdivision within it (~285–340 ¢) as opposed to subminor thirds; minor thirds flat of this are often called "subminor thirds".
This article covers intervals between 240 and 340 ¢. The outer range of this might be too extreme to call "minor thirds", but this is done so that one can find what they're looking for easily.
In just intonation
By prime limit
The simplest 3-limit interval in the range of minor thirds is the Pythagorean minor third of 32/27, about 294 ¢ in size, which is generated by stacking three just perfect fourths of 4/3.
Much simpler minor thirds exist in higher limits, however, for example:
- The 5-limit classical minor third is a ratio of 6/5, and is about 316 ¢.
- The 7-limit (septimal) subminor third is a ratio of 7/6, and is about 267 ¢.
- The 11-limit neogothic minor third is a ratio of 13/11, and is about 290 ¢.
- Note that this is not the fifth complement to the neogothic major third, which is actually a ratio of 33/28, and is about 284 ¢.
- The 13-limit (tridecimal) inframinor third is a ratio of 15/13, and is about 248 ¢.
- There is also a 13-limit (tridecimal) supraminor third, which is a ratio of 63/52, and is about 332 ¢.
- The 17-limit (septendecimal) supraminor third is a ratio of 17/14, and is about 336 ¢.
By delta
See Delta-N ratio.
| Delta-1 | Delta-2 | Delta-3 | Delta-4 | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6/5 | 316 ¢ | 13/11 | 290 ¢ | 17/14 | 336 ¢ | 23/19 | 331 ¢ |
| 7/6 | 267 ¢ | 15/13 | 248 ¢ | 19/16 | 298 ¢ | 25/21 | 302 ¢ |
| 20/17 | 281 ¢ | 27/23 | 278 ¢ | ||||
| 22/19 | 254 ¢ | 29/25 | 257 ¢ | ||||
| 23/20 | 242 ¢ | ||||||
In edos
The following table lists the best tuning of 7/6 and 6/5, as well as other minor thirds if present, in various significant edos.
| Edo | 7/6 | 6/5 | Other minor thirds |
|---|---|---|---|
| 12 | 300 ¢ | ||
| 15 | 240 ¢ | 320 ¢ | |
| 16 | 300 ¢ | ||
| 17 | 282 ¢ | ||
| 19 | 253 ¢ | 316 ¢ | |
| 22 | 273 ¢ | 327 ¢ | |
| 24 | 250 ¢ | 300 ¢ | |
| 25 | 288 ¢ | 336 ¢ | 240 ¢ ≈ 15/13 |
| 26 | 277 ¢ | 323 ¢ | |
| 27 | 267 ¢ | 311 ¢ | |
| 29 | 248 ¢ | 331 ¢ | 290 ¢ ≈ 32/27, 13/11 |
| 31 | 271 ¢ | 310 ¢ | |
| 34 | 282 ¢ | 318 ¢ | 247 ¢ ≈ 15/13 |
| 41 | 263 ¢ | 322 ¢ | 293 ¢ ≈ 32/27 |
| 53 | 272 ¢ | 317 ¢ | 340 ¢ ≈ 17/14, 294 ¢ ≈ 32/27, 249 ¢ ≈ 15/13 |
In regular temperaments
The two simplest minor third ratios are 7/6 and 6/5. The following notable temperaments are generated by them:
In mos scales
Intervals between 267 and 343 ¢ generate the following mos scales:
These tables start from the last monolarge mos generated by the interval range.
Scales with more than 12 notes are not included.
| Range | Mos | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 240–267 ¢ | 1L 3s | 4L 1s | 5L 4s | |
| 267–300 ¢ | 4L 5s | |||
| 300–327 ¢ | 1L 2s | 3L 1s | 4L 3s | 4L 7s |
| 327–343 ¢ | 7L 4s | |||
| View • Talk • EditInterval classification | |
|---|---|
| Interval regions | |
| Unison and octave | Unison • Comma and diesis • Octave |
| Seconds | Minor second • Neutral second • Major second |
| Thirds | Minor third • Neutral third • Major third |
| Fourths and fifths | Perfect fourth • Superfourth • Tritone • Subfifth • Perfect fifth |
| Sixths | Minor sixth • Neutral sixth • Major sixth |
| Sevenths | Minor seventh • Neutral seventh • Major seventh |
| Interseptimal intervals | Interseptimal 2nd-3rd • Interseptimal 3rd-4th • Interseptimal 5th-6th • Interseptimal 6th-7th |
| Interval qualities | |
| Diatonic qualities | Diminished • Minor • Perfect • Major • Augmented |
| Tuning ranges | Neutral (interval quality) • Submajor and supraminor • Pental major and minor • Novamajor and novaminor • Neogothic major and minor • Supermajor and subminor • Ultramajor and inframinor |