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== In just intonation ==
== In just intonation ==
=== By prime limit ===
=== By prime limit ===
3-limit intervals in the range of major thirds include the '''Pythagorean major third''' of [[81/64]], 407.8{{c}} in size, which corresponds to the MOS-based interval category of the diatonic major third and is generated by [[stacking]] four just perfect fifths of [[3/2]], and the '''Pythagorean diminished fourth''' of [[8192/6561]], which is flat of 81/64 by one Pythagorean comma, and is about 384{{c}} in size.
3-limit intervals in the range of major thirds include the Pythagorean major third of [[81/64]], 407.8{{c}} in size, which corresponds to the mos-based interval category of the diatonic major third and is generated by [[stacking]] four just perfect fifths of [[3/2]], and the Pythagorean diminished fourth of [[8192/6561]], which is flat of 81/64 by one Pythagorean comma, and is about 384{{c}} in size.


Much [[odd limit|simpler]] major thirds exist in higher [[prime limit|limits]], however, for example:
Much [[odd limit|simpler]] major thirds exist in higher [[prime limit|limits]], however, for example:
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== In EDOs ==
== In edos ==
The following table lists the best tuning of 5/4 and 9/7, as well as other major thirds if present, in various significant [[edos|EDOs]].
The following table lists the best tuning of 5/4 and 9/7, as well as other major thirds if present, in various significant [[edo]]s.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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! EDO
! Edo
! 5/4
! 5/4
! 9/7
! 9/7
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| {{nowrap|362{{c}} ≈ 21/17|408{{c}} ≈ 81/64|452{{c}} ≈ 13/10}}
| {{nowrap|362{{c}} ≈ 21/17|408{{c}} ≈ 81/64|452{{c}} ≈ 13/10}}
|}
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<nowiki />* These edos have an approximation to 9/7, but it's sharper than 460{{c}}, not really a major third.
<nowiki/>* These edos have an approximation to 9/7, but it is sharper than 460{{c}}, not really a major third.


<nowiki />** These edos have an approximation to 5/4, but it's flatter than 360{{c}}, not really a major third.
<nowiki/>** These edos have an approximation to 5/4, but it is flatter than 360{{c}}, not really a major third.


== In regular temperaments ==
== In regular temperaments ==
The two simplest major 3rd ratios are 5/4 and 9/7. The following notable temperaments are generated by them:
The two simplest major third ratios are 5/4 and 9/7. The following notable temperaments are generated by them:


=== Temperaments that use 5/4 as a generator ===
=== Temperaments that use 5/4 as a generator ===
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* [[Father]], an exotemperament which equates [[4/3]] and 5/4 as a single "fourth-third" interval, from which it derives its name.
* [[Father]], an exotemperament which equates [[4/3]] and 5/4 as a single "fourth-third" interval, from which it derives its name.
* [[Augmented (temperament)|Augmented]], which splits the octave into three equal parts, each representing [[5/4]].
* [[Augmented (temperament)|Augmented]], which splits the octave into three equal parts, each representing [[5/4]].
** The 5-limit [[Circular temperament|circular temperaments]] in general
** The 5-limit [[circular temperament]]s in general


=== Temperaments that use 9/7 as a generator ===
=== Temperaments that use 9/7 as a generator ===
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* [[Squares]], generated by flat supermajor thirds representing [[9/7]] and [[14/11]], such that a stack of four gives [[8/3]].
* [[Squares]], generated by flat supermajor thirds representing [[9/7]] and [[14/11]], such that a stack of four gives [[8/3]].


== In mos scales ==
Intervals between 360 and 480 cents generate the following [[mos]] scales:


== In moment-of-symmetry scales ==
These tables start from the last monolarge mos generated by the interval range.
Intervals between 360 and 480 cents generate the following [[MOS]] scales:


These tables start from the last monolarge [[MOS]] generated by the interval range.
Scales with more than 12 notes are not included.
 
MOSes with more than 12 notes are not included.


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
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! Range
! Range
! colspan="5" | MOS
! colspan="5" | Mos
|-
|-
| 360–400{{c}}
| 360–400{{c}}