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Major and minor triads refer to [[triad]]s containing a [[perfect fifth|fifth]] alongside a [[major third|major]] and [[minor third]] respectively. | Major and minor triads refer to [[triad]]s containing a [[perfect fifth|fifth]] alongside a [[major third|major]] and [[minor third]] respectively. | ||
== | == In tempered scales == | ||
In diatonic scales, "major third" and "minor third" are precisely defined intervals corresponding to [[81/64]] and [[32/27]] in [[Pythagorean tuning]], but generated by a tempered fifth. | In [[5L 2s|diatonic scales]], "major third" and "minor third" are precisely defined intervals corresponding to [[81/64]] and [[32/27]] in [[Pythagorean tuning]], but generated by a tempered fifth. | ||
* In [[12edo]], major is 400c and minor is 300c. | * In [[12edo]], major is 400c and minor is 300c. | ||
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In terms of mediants, minor triads tend to range between a [[mediant (tonality)|mediant]] of 37% and 47%, and major triads tend to range between 53% and 63%, corresponding to simple [[5-limit]] or septimal intervals. More extreme than major and minor are [[Extraclassical tonality|tendo and arto]], corresponding to [[interseptimal]] and [[13-limit|tridecimal]] intervals, and ultimately suspended, corresponding to simple [[3-limit]] intervals; less extreme than major and minor are neutral triads. | In terms of mediants, minor triads tend to range between a [[mediant (tonality)|mediant]] of 37% and 47%, and major triads tend to range between 53% and 63%, corresponding to simple [[5-limit]] or septimal intervals. More extreme than major and minor are [[Extraclassical tonality|tendo and arto]], corresponding to [[interseptimal]] and [[13-limit|tridecimal]] intervals, and ultimately suspended, corresponding to simple [[3-limit]] intervals; less extreme than major and minor are neutral triads. | ||
== In just intonation == | |||
In [[just intonation]], [[4:5:6]] and [[10:12:15]] are the canonical tunings for the major and minor triads. Major and minor triads may also be tuned to simple [[7-limit|septimal]] intervals, for example, to [[14:18:21]] and [[6:7:9]]. Further details lie below. | |||
=== Simple major triads === | |||
In the 7-limit: | |||
* [[14:18:21]], a ''supermajor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third sharper than the 5-limit major. | |||
In the 5-limit: | |||
* [[4:5:6]] is found on the I ({{Frac|1|1}}), IV ({{Frac|4|3}}), and V ({{Frac|3|2}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale ([[Zarlino]]). | |||
In the 3-limit: | |||
* [[64:81:96]] is found on the I, IV, and V of the Pythagorean [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]]. | |||
== Simple minor triads == | |||
A '''minor triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[minor]] third, and fifth. | |||
In the [[7-limit]]: | |||
* [[6:7:9]], a ''subminor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third flatter than the 5-limit minor. | |||
In the [[5-limit]]: | |||
* [[10:12:15]] is found on the iii ({{Frac|5|4}}) and vi ({{Frac|5|3}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale ([[Zarlino]]), perhaps the most common 5-limit diatonic. | |||
* [[27:32:40]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale. | |||
In the [[3-limit]]: | |||
* [[54:64:81]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}), iii ({{Frac|81|64}}), and vi ({{Frac|27|16}}) of the Pythagorean diatonic scale. | |||
== SCL files == | == SCL files == | ||
Revision as of 14:04, 23 February 2025
Major and minor triads refer to triads containing a fifth alongside a major and minor third respectively.
In tempered scales
In diatonic scales, "major third" and "minor third" are precisely defined intervals corresponding to 81/64 and 32/27 in Pythagorean tuning, but generated by a tempered fifth.
- In 12edo, major is 400c and minor is 300c.
- In 19edo, major is 379c and minor is 316c.
- In 22edo, major is 436c and minor is 273c.
- If we pretend that 16edo's fifth generates a diatonic scale, this places major at 300c and minor at 375c, leading to the controversial "harmonic notation" of 16edo.
In terms of mediants, minor triads tend to range between a mediant of 37% and 47%, and major triads tend to range between 53% and 63%, corresponding to simple 5-limit or septimal intervals. More extreme than major and minor are tendo and arto, corresponding to interseptimal and tridecimal intervals, and ultimately suspended, corresponding to simple 3-limit intervals; less extreme than major and minor are neutral triads.
In just intonation
In just intonation, 4:5:6 and 10:12:15 are the canonical tunings for the major and minor triads. Major and minor triads may also be tuned to simple septimal intervals, for example, to 14:18:21 and 6:7:9. Further details lie below.
Simple major triads
In the 7-limit:
- 14:18:21, a supermajor triad, is a 9-odd-limit chord that tunes the third sharper than the 5-limit major.
In the 5-limit:
In the 3-limit:
- 64:81:96 is found on the I, IV, and V of the Pythagorean diatonic scale.
Simple minor triads
A minor triad is a triad comprising a root, minor third, and fifth.
In the 7-limit:
- 6:7:9, a subminor triad, is a 9-odd-limit chord that tunes the third flatter than the 5-limit minor.
In the 5-limit:
- 10:12:15 is found on the iii (5⁄4) and vi (5⁄3) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale (Zarlino), perhaps the most common 5-limit diatonic.
- 27:32:40 is found on the ii (9⁄8) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale.
In the 3-limit:
- 54:64:81 is found on the ii (9⁄8), iii (81⁄64), and vi (27⁄16) of the Pythagorean diatonic scale.
SCL files
.SCL files for the classical major and minor triads are provided below
! majortriad.scl ! The major triad as a wakalix ! Fokblock([25/24, 16/15], [1, 0]) = Fokblock([25/24, 10/9], [2, 0]) = Fokblock([16/15, 10/9], [0, 1]) 3 ! 5/4 3/2 2/1
! minortriad.scl ! The minor triad as a wakalix ! Fokblock([25/24, 16/15], [0, 0]) = Fokblock([25/24, 10/9], [1, 0]) = Fokblock([16/15, 10/9], [1, 0]) 3 ! 6/5 3/2
2/1