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Since (6/5)<sup>3</sup> = 126/125 × 12/7, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before [[12edo]] established itself as the standard tuning, it is actually three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, contrary to the popular belief that it is four stacked minor thirds.  
Since {{nowrap|(6/5)<sup>3</sup> {{=}} 126/125 × 12/7}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 6/5. They also possess the [[starling tetrad]], the 6/5–6/5–6/5–7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before [[12edo]] established itself as the standard tuning, it is actually three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, contrary to the popular belief that it is four stacked minor thirds.  


== Myna ==
== Myna ==
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{{Main| Myna }}
{{Main| Myna }}


In addition to 126/125, myna tempers out [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma, and [[2401/2400]], the breedsma. It can also be described as the 27 &amp; 31 temperament. It has 6/5 as a generator, and [[58edo]] can be used as a tuning, with [[89edo]] being a better one, and fans of round amounts in cents may like [[120edo]]. It is also possible to tune myna with pure fifths by taking 6<sup>1/10</sup> as the generator. Myna extends naturally but with much increased complexity to the 11 and 13 limits.
In addition to 126/125, myna tempers out [[1728/1715]], the orwell comma, and [[2401/2400]], the breedsma. It can also be described as the {{nowrap|27 &amp; 31}} temperament. It has 6/5 as a generator, and [[58edo]] can be used as a tuning, with [[89edo]] being a better one, and fans of round amounts in cents may like [[120edo]]. It is also possible to tune myna with pure fifths by taking 6<sup>1/10</sup> as the generator. Myna extends naturally but with much increased complexity to the 11 and 13 limits.


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{{Main| Valentine }}
{{Main| Valentine }}


Valentine tempers out [[1029/1024]] and [[6144/6125]] as well as 126/125, so it also fits under the heading of the gamelismic clan. It has a generator of 21/20, which can be stripped of its 2 and taken as 3×7/5. In this respect it resembles miracle, with a generator of 3×5/7, and casablanca, with a generator of 5×7/3. These three generators are the simplest in terms of the relationship of tetrads in the [[The Seven Limit Symmetrical Lattices|lattice of 7-limit tetrads]]. Valentine can also be described as the 31 &amp; 46 temperament, and [[77edo]], [[108edo]] or [[185edo]] make for excellent tunings, which also happen to be excellent tunings for starling temperament, the 126/125 planar temperament. Hence 7-limit valentine can be used whenever starling is wanted, with the extra tempering out of 1029/1024 having no discernible effect on tuning accuracy. Another tuning for valentine uses (3/2)<sup>1/9</sup> as a generator, giving pure 3/2 fifths. Valentine extends naturally to the 11-limit as {{multival| 9 5 -3 7 … }}, tempering out 121/120 and 441/440; 46edo has a valentine generator 3\46 which is only 0.0117 cents sharp of the minimax generator, (11/7)<sup>1/10</sup>.
Valentine tempers out [[1029/1024]] and [[6144/6125]] as well as 126/125, so it also fits under the heading of the gamelismic clan. It has a generator of 21/20, which can be stripped of its 2 and taken as 3×7/5. In this respect it resembles miracle, with a generator of 3×5/7, and casablanca, with a generator of 5×7/3. These three generators are the simplest in terms of the relationship of tetrads in the [[The Seven Limit Symmetrical Lattices|lattice of 7-limit tetrads]]. Valentine can also be described as the {{nowrap|31 &amp; 46}} temperament, and [[77edo]], [[108edo]], or [[185edo]] make for excellent tunings, which also happen to be excellent tunings for starling temperament, the 126/125 planar temperament. Hence 7-limit valentine can be used whenever starling is wanted, with the extra tempering out of 1029/1024 having no discernible effect on tuning accuracy. Another tuning for valentine uses (3/2)<sup>1/9</sup> as a generator, giving pure 3/2 fifths. Valentine extends naturally to the 11-limit as {{multival| 9 5 -3 7 … }}, tempering out 121/120 and 441/440; 46edo has a valentine generator 3\46 which is only 0.0117 cents sharp of the minimax generator, (11/7)<sup>1/10</sup>.


Valentine is very closely related to [[Carlos Alpha]], the rank-1 non-octave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in ''Beauty in the Beast'' suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank-1 temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. MOSes of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.
Valentine is very closely related to [[Carlos Alpha]], the rank-1 non-octave temperament of Wendy Carlos, as the generator chain of valentine is the same thing as Carlos Alpha. Indeed, the way Carlos uses Alpha in ''Beauty in the Beast'' suggests that she really intended Alpha to be the same thing as valentine, and that it is misdescribed as a rank-1 temperament. Carlos tells us that "[t]he melodic motions of Alpha are amazingly exotic and fresh, like you've never heard before", and since Alpha lives inside valentine this comment carries over and applies to it if you stick close melodically to generator steps, which is almost impossible not to do since the generator step is so small. MOSes of 15, 16, 31 and 46 notes are available to explore these exotic and fresh melodies, or the less exotic ones you might cook up otherwise.
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: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Nusecond]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Nusecond]].''


Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as 31 &amp; 70. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view.
Nusecond tempers out 2430/2401 and 16875/16807 in addition to 126/125, and may be described as {{nowrap|31 &amp; 70}}. It has a neutral second generator of 49/45, two of which make up a 6/5 minor third since 2430/2401 is tempered out. [[31edo]] can be used as a tuning, or [[132edo]] with a val which is the sum of the [[patent val]]s for 31 and 101. Because 49/45 is flat of 12/11 by only 540/539, nusecond is more naturally thought of as an 11-limit temperament with a combined 12/11 and 11/10 as a generator, tempering out 99/98, 121/120 and 540/539. Because of all the neutral seconds, an exotic Middle Eastern sound comes naturally to nusecond. Mosses of 15, 23, or 31 notes are enough to give fuller effect to the harmony, but the 8-note mos might also be considered from the melodic point of view.


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: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Casablanca]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Casablanca]].''


Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma 823543/819200 and also 589824/588245, and may also be described as 31 &amp; 73. 74\135 or 91\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20- and 31-note mosses are available.
Aside from 126/125, casablanca tempers out the no-threes comma 823543/819200 and also 589824/588245, and may also be described as {{nowrap|31 &amp; 73}}. 74\135 or 91\166 supply good tunings for the generator, and 20- and 31-note mosses are available.


It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the ~35/24 generator is particularly interesting; like 15/14 and 21/20, it represents an interval between one vertex of a [[hexany]] and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads. For another, if we add 385/384 to the list of commas, 35/24 is identified with 16/11, and casablanca is revealed as an 11-limit temperament with a very low complexity for 11 and not too high a one for 7; we might compare 1, 4, 14, 19, the generator steps to 11, 7, 5 and 3 respectively, with 1, 4, 10, 18, the steps to 3, 5, 7 and 11 in 11-limit meantone.
It may not seem like casablanca has much to offer, but peering under the hood a bit harder suggests otherwise. For one thing, the ~35/24 generator is particularly interesting; like 15/14 and 21/20, it represents an interval between one vertex of a [[hexany]] and the opposite vertex, which makes it particularly simple with regard to the cubic lattice of tetrads. For another, if we add 385/384 to the list of commas, 35/24 is identified with 16/11, and casablanca is revealed as an 11-limit temperament with a very low complexity for 11 and not too high a one for 7; we might compare 1, 4, 14, 19, the generator steps to 11, 7, 5 and 3 respectively, with 1, 4, 10, 18, the steps to 3, 5, 7 and 11 in 11-limit meantone.
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== Supersensi ==
== Supersensi ==
Supersensi (8d &amp; 43) has supermajor third as a generator like [[sensi]], but the no-fives comma 17496/16807 rather than 245/243 tempered out.
Supersensi ({{nowrap|8d &amp; 43}}) has supermajor third as a generator like [[sensi]], but the no-fives comma 17496/16807 rather than 245/243 tempered out.


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The name of the cobalt temperament comes from the 27th element.
The name of the cobalt temperament comes from the 27th element.


Cobalt (27 &amp; 81) has a period of 1/27 octave and tempers out 126/125 and 540/539, as well as the [[Starling family #Aplonis|aplonis temperament]].  
Cobalt ({{nowrap|27 &amp; 81}}) has a period of 1/27 octave and tempers out 126/125 and 540/539, as well as the [[Starling family #Aplonis|aplonis temperament]].  


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