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Its [[patent val]] is a doubled version of the patent val for [[15edo]] through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a [[contorted]] version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for [[Trienstonic_clan#Quindecic|quindecic temperament]].
Its [[patent val]] is a doubled version of the patent val for [[15edo]] through the 11-limit, so 30 can be viewed as a [[contorted]] version of 15. In the 13-limit it supplies the optimal patent val for [[Trienstonic_clan#Quindecic|quindecic temperament]].
[[File:Plot30.png|alt=plot30.png|thumb|A plot of the Z function around 30.]]
However, 5\30 is 200 cents, which is a good (and familiar) approximation for 9/8, and hence 30edo can be viewed inconsistently, as having a 9/1 at 95\30 as well as 96\30.


However, 5\30 is 200 cents, which is a good (and familiar) approximation for 9/8, and hence 30edo can be viewed inconsistently, as having a 9/1 at 95\30 as well as 96\30. Instead of the 18\30 fifth of 720 cents, 30edo also makes available a 17\30 fifth of 680 cents. This is an ideal tuning for pelogic (5-limit mavila), which tempers out 135/128. When 30edo is used for pelogic, 5\30 can again be used inconsistently as a 9/8.
Instead of the 18\30 fifth of 720 cents, 30edo also makes available a 17\30 fifth of 680 cents. This is an ideal tuning for pelogic (5-limit mavila), which tempers out 135/128. When 30edo is used for pelogic, 5\30 can again be used inconsistently as a 9/8.


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== JI approximation ==
== Rank-2 temperaments ==
=== Zeta function ===
As 30edo is largely composite, only 7, 11 and 13 steps create [[MOS scale]]s that cover every interval using one period per octave. 
Below is a plot of the Z function around 30:


[[File:plot30.png|alt=plot30.png|plot30.png]]
7/30 produces [[Chromatic_pairs#Lovecraft|Lovecraft]], in which 2 generators is a moderately sharp [[11/8]], 3 a near perfect [[13/8]] and 5 the familiar mildly flat [[9/8]] from [[12edo]], creating the possibility of ignoring the 3rd & 5th entirely to use those harmonics as the primary building blocks of harmony in a similar way to [[orgone]]. 


== Rank-2 temperaments ==
11 produces a flat [[sensi]] scale. 13 is an excellent higher order [[Pelogic_family#Mavila|Mavila]] tuning that functions the closest to the familiar diatonic scale you can get in this edo.  
As 30edo is largely composite, only 7, 11 and 13 steps create [[MOS scale]]s that cover every interval using one period per octave. 7/30 produces [[Chromatic_pairs#Lovecraft|Lovecraft]], in which 2 generators is a moderately sharp [[11/8]], 3 a near perfect [[13/8]] and 5 the familiar mildly flat [[9/8]] from [[12edo]], creating the possibility of ignoring the 3rd & 5th entirely to use those harmonics as the primary building blocks of harmony in a similar way to [[orgone]]. 11 produces a flat [[sensi]] scale. 13 is an excellent higher order [[Pelogic_family#Mavila|Mavila]] tuning that functions the closest to the familiar diatonic scale you can get in this edo.  


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; MOS scales


* [[Lovecraft5|Lovecraft[5]]] - 77772
* [[Lovecraft5|Lovecraft[5]]] - 77772