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The 119\205 meantone fifth is extremely close to the 1/4-comma fifth, being only 0.007 cents sharp of it. Moreover the steps are half a cent flat of 1/4 of a syntonic comma. This makes the Tonal Plexus keyboard potentially of use in implementing [[Wikipedia: Nicola Vicentino|Nicola Vicentino]]'s [http://www.tonalsoft.com/monzo/vicentino/vicentino.aspx adaptive-JI scheme of 1555]. It also means that authentic 1/4-comma meantone tuning is, for practical purposes, available in 205 and allows for historically authentic performances of 1/4-comma music on the historically newfangled Tonal Plexus. | The 119\205 meantone fifth is extremely close to the 1/4-comma fifth, being only 0.007 cents sharp of it. Moreover the steps are half a cent flat of 1/4 of a syntonic comma. This makes the Tonal Plexus keyboard potentially of use in implementing [[Wikipedia: Nicola Vicentino|Nicola Vicentino]]'s [http://www.tonalsoft.com/monzo/vicentino/vicentino.aspx adaptive-JI scheme of 1555]. It also means that authentic 1/4-comma meantone tuning is, for practical purposes, available in 205 and allows for historically authentic performances of 1/4-comma music on the historically newfangled Tonal Plexus. | ||
=== | === Divisors === | ||
205 factors into primes as 5 × 41, a fact some advocates of the division make use of; it is also [[2460edo|2460/12]], so that a single step is precisely 12 [[mina]]s. | 205 factors into primes as 5 × 41, a fact some advocates of the division make use of; it is also [[2460edo|2460/12]], so that a single step is precisely 12 [[mina]]s. | ||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | {| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | ||
! rowspan="2" | Subgroup | ! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | ||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve | ! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve Stretch (¢) | ||
! colspan="2" | Tuning | ! colspan="2" | Tuning Error | ||
|- | |- | ||
! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | ! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | ||
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{| class="wikitable center-all left-5" | {| class="wikitable center-all left-5" | ||
|+Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | |+Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | ||
! Periods<br>per | ! Periods<br>per 8ve | ||
! Generator<br>( | ! Generator<br>(Reduced) | ||
! Cents<br>( | ! Cents<br>(Reduced) | ||
! Associated<br> | ! Associated<br>Ratio | ||
! Temperaments | ! Temperaments | ||
|- | |- | ||
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| 386.341<br>(5.85) | | 386.341<br>(5.85) | ||
| 5/4<br>(32805/32768) | | 5/4<br>(32805/32768) | ||
| [[ | | [[Countercomp]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
=== Quanic (24\205) | === Quanic (24\205) mos === | ||
; 17-note | |||
11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 13 | : 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 13 | ||
; 26-note | |||
: 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 2 | |||
=== | === Amity (58\205) mos === | ||
11 | ; 11-note | ||
: 27 27 4 27 27 4 27 27 4 27 4 | |||
; 18-note | |||
: 23 4 23 4 4 23 4 23 4 4 23 4 23 4 4 23 4 4 | |||
; 25-note | |||
: 19 4 4 19 4 4 4 19 4 4 19 4 4 4 19 4 4 19 4 4 4 19 4 4 4 | |||
=== | === Hemithirds (33\205) mos === | ||
; 13-note | |||
: 26 7 26 7 26 7 26 7 26 7 26 7 7 | |||
; 19-note | |||
: 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 7 | |||
; 25-note | |||
: 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 7 | |||
; 31-notes | |||
: 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 7 | |||
=== | === Meantone (119\205) mos === | ||
; 12-note | |||
: 13 20 13 20 13 20 20 13 20 13 20 20 | |||
; 19-note | |||
: 13 13 7 13 13 7 13 13 7 13 7 13 13 7 13 13 7 13 7 | |||
; 31-note | |||
: 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 7 | |||
=== | === Myna (53\205) mos === | ||
23 4 | ; 11-note | ||
: 7 7 39 7 7 39 7 7 39 7 39 | |||
; 15-note | |||
: 7 7 7 32 7 7 7 32 7 7 7 32 7 7 32 | |||
; 19-note | |||
: 7 7 7 7 25 7 7 7 7 25 7 7 7 7 25 7 7 7 25 | |||
; 23-note | |||
: 7 7 7 7 7 18 7 7 7 7 7 18 7 7 7 7 7 18 7 7 7 7 18 | |||
; 27-note | |||
: 7 7 7 7 7 7 11 7 7 7 7 7 7 11 7 7 7 7 7 7 11 7 7 7 7 7 11 | |||
; 31-note | |||
: 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 | |||
=== Porcupine (28\205) mos === | |||
; 15-note | |||
: 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 9 | |||
; 22-note | |||
: 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 9 | |||
; 29-note | |||
: 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 9 | |||
=== Porcupine (28\205) | |||
19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 9 | |||
10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 9 | |||
1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 9 | |||
[[Category:Equal divisions of the octave|###]] <!-- 3-digit number --> | [[Category:Equal divisions of the octave|###]] <!-- 3-digit number --> | ||
Revision as of 13:57, 22 December 2022
| ← 204edo | 205edo | 206edo → |
Theory
205edo can serve as a tuning for various temperaments, such as amity or laka, and supplies the optimal patent val for quanic in the 7-, 11-, 13-, 17- and 19-limits, and for 13-limit amity, as well as other temperaments tempering out the huntma, 640/637, the rank-5 temperament for which it also supplies the optimal patent val.
In the 5-limit it tempers out 1600000/1594323, the amity comma, and [38 -2 -15⟩, the hemithirds comma, and is an excellent tuning for 5-limit amity. The patent val ⟨205 325 476 576 709 759] tempers out 4375/4374, 5120/5103, 6144/6125 in the 7-limit; 540/539, 1331/1323, and 2420/2401 in the 11-limit; 352/351, 640/637, 729/728, 847/845, and 1188/1183 in the 13-limit.
Using its alternative mapping ⟨205 325 476 575] (205d) it can also be used for hemithirds temperament. This extension tempers out 385/384, 441/440, and 3388/3375 in the 11-limit. The 13-limit version of this, ⟨205 325 476 575 709 759] (205d), is especially noteworthy, where it tempers out 196/195 and 1001/1000. Another 13-limit extension is ⟨205 325 476 575 709 758] (205df), where it adds 325/324, and 364/363 to the comma list.
Anyway, assume the patent val, 205et tempers out 540/539, so that it allows swetismic chords; 729/728, so that it allows squbemic chords; 640/637, so that it allows huntmic chords; 352/351, so that it allows minthmic chords; 1188/1183, so that it allows kestrel chords; and 847/845, so that it allows the cuthbert triad. In the alternative 205df val, it allows marveltwin chords, keenanismic chords, gentle chords, and werckismic chords. This makes it a tuning of exceptional fludity for its degree of accuracy.
Odd harmonics
| Harmonic | 3 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 17 | 19 | 21 | 23 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Error | Absolute (¢) | +0.48 | +0.03 | +2.88 | +0.97 | -1.07 | +2.40 | +0.51 | +0.41 | +1.02 | -2.49 | -1.93 |
| Relative (%) | +8.3 | +0.5 | +49.2 | +16.5 | -18.3 | +41.0 | +8.7 | +7.0 | +17.5 | -42.5 | -33.0 | |
| Steps (reduced) |
325 (120) |
476 (66) |
576 (166) |
650 (35) |
709 (94) |
759 (144) |
801 (186) |
838 (18) |
871 (51) |
900 (80) |
927 (107) | |
Temperament generators and Tonal Plexus
205edo is the default tuning for the Tonal Plexus midi controller. See the theory part on the same website. Aside from the 24\205 generator of quanic, the 58\205 generator of amity, and the 33\205 generator of hemithirds, 205edo supplies an excellent meantone fifth in 119\205, an excellent myna generator in 53\205, and a very good porcupine generator with 28\205, which is also an excellent generator for the higher-limit extension porky, and when sliced in half to 14\205, can even be used for nautilus. These facts are all potentially of significance to anyone using a 205edo based system such as the Tonal Plexus.
The 119\205 meantone fifth is extremely close to the 1/4-comma fifth, being only 0.007 cents sharp of it. Moreover the steps are half a cent flat of 1/4 of a syntonic comma. This makes the Tonal Plexus keyboard potentially of use in implementing Nicola Vicentino's adaptive-JI scheme of 1555. It also means that authentic 1/4-comma meantone tuning is, for practical purposes, available in 205 and allows for historically authentic performances of 1/4-comma music on the historically newfangled Tonal Plexus.
Divisors
205 factors into primes as 5 × 41, a fact some advocates of the division make use of; it is also 2460/12, so that a single step is precisely 12 minas.
Regular temperament properties
| Subgroup | Comma list | Mapping | Optimal 8ve Stretch (¢) |
Tuning Error | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Absolute (¢) | Relative (%) | ||||
| 2.3.5 | 1600000/1594323, [38 -2 -15⟩ | [⟨205 325 476]] | -0.106 | 0.141 | 2.41 |
| 2.3.5.11 | 5632/5625, 14641/14580, 1600000/1594323 | [⟨181 287 420 508]] | -0.002 | 0.218 | 3.72 |
Rank-2 temperaments
| Periods per 8ve |
Generator (Reduced) |
Cents (Reduced) |
Associated Ratio |
Temperaments |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 6\205 | 35.122 | 45/44 | Gammic (205e) |
| 1 | 24\205 | 140.488 | 13/12 | Quanic (205) |
| 1 | 33\205 | 193.171 | 28/25 | Luna / lunatic (205) / hemithirds (205d) |
| 1 | 58\205 | 339.512 | 128/105 | Amity (205) |
| 5 | 63\205 (19\205) |
368.780 (111.220) |
10125/8192 (16/15) |
Qintosec |
| 41 | 66\205 (1\205) |
386.341 (5.85) |
5/4 (32805/32768) |
Countercomp |
Scales
Quanic (24\205) mos
- 17-note
- 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 11 13 13
- 26-note
- 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 11 2 11 2
Amity (58\205) mos
- 11-note
- 27 27 4 27 27 4 27 27 4 27 4
- 18-note
- 23 4 23 4 4 23 4 23 4 4 23 4 23 4 4 23 4 4
- 25-note
- 19 4 4 19 4 4 4 19 4 4 19 4 4 4 19 4 4 19 4 4 4 19 4 4 4
Hemithirds (33\205) mos
- 13-note
- 26 7 26 7 26 7 26 7 26 7 26 7 7
- 19-note
- 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 19 7 7 7
- 25-note
- 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 12 7 7 7 7
- 31-notes
- 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 5 7 7 7 7 7
Meantone (119\205) mos
- 12-note
- 13 20 13 20 13 20 20 13 20 13 20 20
- 19-note
- 13 13 7 13 13 7 13 13 7 13 7 13 13 7 13 13 7 13 7
- 31-note
- 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 6 7 7 6 7 7
Myna (53\205) mos
- 11-note
- 7 7 39 7 7 39 7 7 39 7 39
- 15-note
- 7 7 7 32 7 7 7 32 7 7 7 32 7 7 32
- 19-note
- 7 7 7 7 25 7 7 7 7 25 7 7 7 7 25 7 7 7 25
- 23-note
- 7 7 7 7 7 18 7 7 7 7 7 18 7 7 7 7 7 18 7 7 7 7 18
- 27-note
- 7 7 7 7 7 7 11 7 7 7 7 7 7 11 7 7 7 7 7 7 11 7 7 7 7 7 11
- 31-note
- 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 4 7 7 7 7 7 7 4
Porcupine (28\205) mos
- 15-note
- 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 19 9 9
- 22-note
- 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 10 9 9 9
- 29-note
- 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 1 9 9 9 9