Talk:41edo solfege: Difference between revisions
Created page with "== Possible expansions == The conventional solfege runs Do - Di/Ra - Re - Ri/Me - Mi - Fa - Fi/Se - Sol - Si/Le - La - Li/Te - Ti - Do. The many enharmonic equivalents provide..." |
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Mnemonic: the Dr- names have an "r" like the equivalent 2nds do. The VIv chord would be named La - Dro - Ma. If followed by a II chord, the melody Fra-Ra would become Dro-Ra, much better. | Mnemonic: the Dr- names have an "r" like the equivalent 2nds do. The VIv chord would be named La - Dro - Ma. If followed by a II chord, the melody Fra-Ra would become Dro-Ra, much better. | ||
However this is not enough to avoid awkward names. For example, the 3rd of the vIIIv chord is a vv#5 note named as a 6th, Flo. To get | However this is not enough to avoid awkward names. For example, the 3rd of the vIIIv chord is a vv#5 note named as a 6th, Flo. To get as much coverage as the conventional solfege, we would need 3 more aug intervals. We could use -k- for augmented: | ||
* aug 5ths: Ski Sko Ska Sku | * aug 5ths: Ski Sko Ska Sku | ||
* aug 2nds: Kri Kro Kra Kru | * aug 2nds: Kri Kro Kra Kru | ||
* aug 6ths: Kli Klo Kla Klu | * aug 6ths: Kli Klo Kla Klu | ||
The vIIIv chord would be named Mo Ski Lo. The 17 -a notes would run from dim 5th to aug 6th: | |||
Sha - Fra - Fla - Na - Tha - Fa - Da - Sa - Ra - La - Ma - Ta - Pa - Dra - Ska - Kra - Kla | |||
Almost every major chord could be spelled appropriately, as long as the root is one of the original 45 names. But bIIv7 lacks a vd8 name. To get all the chords, we would need 4 more dim intervals: | |||
* dim 8ves: Dwo Dwa Dwu Dwi | * dim 8ves: Dwo Dwa Dwu Dwi | ||
* dim 4ths: Fwo Fwa Fwu Fwi | * dim 4ths: Fwo Fwa Fwu Fwi | ||
* dim 7ths: Thwo Thwa Thwu Thwi | * dim 7ths: Thwo Thwa Thwu Thwi | ||
* dim 3rds: Nwo Nwa Nwu Nwi | * dim 3rds: Nwo Nwa Nwu Nwi | ||
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|Fwo | |(Fwo) | ||
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|Sku | |Sku | ||
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|Dwi | |(Dwi) | ||
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We <u>could</u> do this, but <u>should</u> we? With 77 names, the solfege is harder to learn. With names like Nwo and Thwu, it's less singable. Such a complex solfege is more of a barrier than an aid. IMO such expansions shouldn't happen unless absolutely needed, say if perhaps 41edo becomes an extremely popular tuning rivaling 12edo. [[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 01:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC) | We <u>could</u> do this, but <u>should</u> we? With 61 or 77 names, the solfege is harder to learn. With names like Nwo and Thwu, it's less singable. Such a complex solfege is more of a barrier than an aid. IMO such expansions shouldn't happen unless absolutely needed, say if perhaps 41edo becomes an extremely popular tuning rivaling 12edo. [[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 01:33, 28 August 2022 (UTC) | ||