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I don't see the relevance of the edo size statement... It may belong to some theory pages, not here.
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{{Wikipedia|Syntonic comma}}
{{Wikipedia|Syntonic comma}}


The '''syntonic''' or '''Didymus''' or '''meantone comma''' (frequency ratio '''81/80''') is helpful for comparing [[3-limit]] and [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]]. Adding or subtracting this comma to/from any 3-limit [[ratio]] with an [[odd limit]] of 27 or higher creates a 5-limit ratio with a much lower odd-limit. Thus dissonant 3-limit harmonies can often be sweetened via a commatic adjustment. However, adding/subtracting this comma to/from any 3-limit ratio of odd limit 3 or less (the 4th, 5th or 8ve), creates a wolf interval of odd limit 27 or higher. Any attempt to tune a fixed-pitch instrument (e.g. guitar or piano) to 5-limit just intonation will create such wolves, thus tempering out 81/80 is desirable. This gives a tuning for the [[Tone|whole tone]] which is intermediate between 10/9 and 9/8, and leads to [[Meantone|meantone temperament]], hence the name meantone comma.
The '''syntonic''' or '''Didymus''' or '''meantone comma''' (frequency ratio '''81/80''') is helpful for comparing [[3-limit]] and [[5-limit]] [[just intonation]]. Adding or subtracting this comma to/from any 3-limit [[ratio]] with an [[odd limit]] of 27 or higher creates a 5-limit ratio with a much lower odd-limit. Thus dissonant 3-limit harmonies can often be sweetened via a commatic adjustment. However, adding/subtracting this comma to/from any 3-limit ratio of odd limit 3 or less (the 4th, 5th or 8ve), creates a wolf interval of odd limit 27 or higher. Any attempt to tune a fixed-pitch instrument (e.g. guitar or piano) to 5-limit just intonation will create such wolves, thus tempering out 81/80 is desirable. This gives a tuning for the [[Tone|whole tone]] which is intermediate between 10/9 and 9/8, and leads to [[Meantone|meantone temperament]], hence the name meantone comma.  
 
Tempering out a comma does not just depend on an EDO's size; [[105edo]] tempers 81/80 out, while [[15edo|3edo]] does not.


YouTube video of "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWiEWFRGAY Five senses of 81/80]" {{dead link}}, demonstratory video by Jacob Barton.
YouTube video of "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpWiEWFRGAY Five senses of 81/80]" {{dead link}}, demonstratory video by Jacob Barton.