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Below are some subgroups and temperaments for them. Obviously, no attempt has been made at completeness; attention is focused on subgroups containing interesting chords. The reader may also want to consult the page on [[Chromatic pairs]].
Below are some subgroups and temperaments for them. Obviously, no attempt has been made at completeness; attention is focused on subgroups containing interesting chords. The reader may also want to consult the page on [[Chromatic pairs]].


= No-elevens subgroup =
== No-elevens subgroup ==


== Sensi (aka Sensation) ==
=== Sensi (aka Sensation) ===
<small>''For full 13-limit extensions, see [[Sensipent family]] or [[Sensi extensions]].''</small>
<small>''For full 13-limit extensions, see [[Sensipent family]] or [[Sensi extensions]].''</small>


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.321 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.321 cents


==[[Tertiaseptal]]==
=== [[Tertiaseptal]] ===
<small>''For full 13- and 17-limit extensions, see [[Breedsmic temperaments #Tertiaseptal]].''</small>
<small>''For full 13- and 17-limit extensions, see [[Breedsmic temperaments #Tertiaseptal]].''</small>


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1383 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1383 cents


=== 2.3.5.7.13.17 ===
==== 2.3.5.7.13.17 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13.17
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13.17


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1367 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1367 cents


= No-sevens subgroup =
== No-sevens subgroup ==


== Porkypine ==
=== Porkypine ===
Related temperament: [[Porcupine]]
Related temperament: [[Porcupine]]


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.287 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.287 cents


== Mohaha ==
=== Mohaha ===
Related temperament: [[mohajira]], [[Meantone family #Migration|migration]]
Related temperament: [[mohajira]], [[Meantone family #Migration|migration]]


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.392 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.392 cents


=== Music ===
==== Music ====
[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Stiltner/mohaha10ping2.mp3 Mohaha10ping2] by [[Billy Stiltner]]
[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Stiltner/mohaha10ping2.mp3 Mohaha10ping2] by [[Billy Stiltner]]


== Larry ==
=== Larry ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3025 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3025 cents


== Tetracot ==
=== Tetracot ===
<small>''For full 11- and 13-limit extensions, see [[Tetracot family]].''</small>
<small>''For full 11- and 13-limit extensions, see [[Tetracot family]].''</small>


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.182 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.182 cents


=== 2.3.5.11.13 ===
==== 2.3.5.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.140 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.140 cents


== Emka ==
=== Emka ===
<small>''For full 11- and 13-limit extensions, see [[Hemimean clan #Emka]] or [[Horwell temperaments #Emkay]].''</small>
<small>''For full 11- and 13-limit extensions, see [[Hemimean clan #Emka]] or [[Horwell temperaments #Emkay]].''</small>


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1188 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1188 cents


=== 2.3.5.11.13 ===
==== 2.3.5.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1250 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.1250 cents


= No-fives subgroup =
== No-fives subgroup ==


==[[Semaphore and Godzilla|Semaphore]]==
=== [[Semaphore and Godzilla|Semaphore]] ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7
Subgroup: 2.3.7


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[[Tp tuning# T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.523 cents
[[Tp tuning# T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.523 cents


== Archy ==
=== Archy ===
Archy (properly pronounced "arky", after the Greek theorist Archytas) can be thought of as "no-fives [[dominant]]" or "no-fives [[superpyth]]". The name comes from the fact that it tempers out 64/63, the Archytas comma.
Archy (properly pronounced "arky", after the Greek theorist Archytas) can be thought of as "no-fives [[dominant]]" or "no-fives [[superpyth]]". The name comes from the fact that it tempers out 64/63, the Archytas comma.


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.856 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.856 cents


=== Supra ===
==== Supra ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.977 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.977 cents


==== Supraphon ====
===== Supraphon =====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.095 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 2.095 cents


=== Suhajira ===
==== Suhajira ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.968 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.968 cents


==== 2.3.7.11.13 ====
===== 2.3.7.11.13 =====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.953 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.953 cents


==[[Slendric]]==
=== [[Slendric]] ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7
Subgroup: 2.3.7


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3202 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3202 cents


==[[Gamelismic clan #Baladic|Baladic]]==
=== [[Gamelismic clan #Baladic|Baladic]] ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.5452 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.5452 cents


=== 2.3.7.13.17 ===
==== 2.3.7.13.17 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.13.17
Subgroup: 2.3.7.13.17


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.5073 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.5073 cents


== Lee ==
=== Lee ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7
Subgroup: 2.3.7


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3519 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3519 cents


== Skwares ==
=== Skwares ===
Related temperament: [[Meantone family #Squares|squares]]
Related temperament: [[Meantone family #Squares|squares]]


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.149 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.149 cents


=== 2.3.7.11 ===
==== 2.3.7.11 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.099 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.099 cents


=== 2.3.7.11.13 ===
==== 2.3.7.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.769 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.769 cents


=== Skwairs ===
==== Skwairs ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.290 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.290 cents


== Bleu ==
=== Bleu ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7
Subgroup: 2.3.7


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.917 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.917 cents


=== 2.3.7.11 ===
==== 2.3.7.11 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.829 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.829 cents


=== 2.3.7.11.13 ===
==== 2.3.7.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.752 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.752 cents


== Hemif ==
=== Hemif ===
Related temperament: [[Breedsmic temperaments #Hemififths|hemififths]], namo
Related temperament: [[Breedsmic temperaments #Hemififths|hemififths]], namo


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2344 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2344 cents


=== 2.3.7.11 ===
==== 2.3.7.11 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.6108 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.6108 cents


=== 2.3.7.11.13 ===
==== 2.3.7.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.7167 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.7167 cents


== Ennea ==
=== Ennea ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.0383 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.0383 cents


== Leapfrog ==
=== Leapfrog ===
{{see also|Gentle region}}
{{see also|Gentle region}}


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.6202 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.6202 cents


=== 2.3.7.11 ===
==== 2.3.7.11 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.6047 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.6047 cents


=== 2.3.7.11.13 ===
==== 2.3.7.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.7541 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.7541 cents


=== Music ===
==== Music ====
*Suite for Harpsichord in A Locrian, tuning: Eb-G# in [[46edo]] by [[User:IlL|IlL]] (in progress):
*Suite for Harpsichord in A Locrian, tuning: Eb-G# in [[46edo]] by [[User:IlL|IlL]] (in progress):
**I. Prelude
**I. Prelude
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**[[:File:Locrian Suite Gigue.mp3|VII. Gigue]]
**[[:File:Locrian Suite Gigue.mp3|VII. Gigue]]


== Parapyth (Rank 3) ==
=== Parapyth (Rank 3) ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.4149 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.4149 cents


=== 2.3.7.11.13 ===
==== 2.3.7.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3789 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3789 cents


== Neutral ==
=== Neutral ===
Neutral can be thought of as the 2.3.11 version of either [[mohajira]] or [[maqamic]], as well as suhajira and ringo. Among other things, it is the temperament optimizing the [[neutral tetrad]].
Neutral can be thought of as the 2.3.11 version of either [[mohajira]] or [[maqamic]], as well as suhajira and ringo. Among other things, it is the temperament optimizing the [[neutral tetrad]].


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[[neutraltet17|Seventeen note mega chromatic scale]]
[[neutraltet17|Seventeen note mega chromatic scale]]


=== Namo ===
==== Namo ====
Subgroup: 2.3.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.11.13


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.7038 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.7038 cents


= No-threes subgroup =
== No-threes subgroup ==


== Didacus ==
=== Didacus ===
Related temperaments: [[Chromatic pairs #Roulette|roulette]], [[Gamelismic clan #Hemithirds|hemithirds]]
Related temperaments: [[Chromatic pairs #Roulette|roulette]], [[Gamelismic clan #Hemithirds|hemithirds]]


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2138 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2138 cents


== Llywelyn ==
=== Llywelyn ===
Subgroup: 2.5.7
Subgroup: 2.5.7


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.5391 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.5391 cents


== Rainy ==
=== Rainy ===
Three generators make an [[8/7]]; five generators make a [[5/4]]. This is the no-threes version of [[tertiaseptal]].
Three generators make an [[8/7]]; five generators make a [[5/4]]. This is the no-threes version of [[tertiaseptal]].


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.058596 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.058596 cents


= 2.9.7.11 subgroup =
== 2.9.7.11 subgroup ==


== Machine ==
=== Machine ===
Subgroup: 2.9.7.11
Subgroup: 2.9.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.977 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.977 cents


== Apparatus ==
=== Apparatus ===
Subgroup: 2.9.7.11
Subgroup: 2.9.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.0673 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.0673 cents


== Mechanism ==
=== Mechanism ===
Subgroup: 2.9.7.11
Subgroup: 2.9.7.11


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.4262 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.4262 cents


= 2.9.15.7 subgroup =
== 2.9.15.7 subgroup ==


== Stacks (aka 2magic) ==
=== Stacks (aka 2magic) ===
Subgroup: 2.9.15.7
Subgroup: 2.9.15.7


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.074 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.074 cents


=== 2.9.15.7.11 ===
==== 2.9.15.7.11 ====
Subgroup: 2.9.15.7.11
Subgroup: 2.9.15.7.11


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RMS error: 1.226 cents
RMS error: 1.226 cents


=== 2.9.15.7.11.13 ===
==== 2.9.15.7.11.13 ====
Subgroup: 2.9.15.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.9.15.7.11.13


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RMS error: 1.540 cents
RMS error: 1.540 cents


= 2.9.21 subgroup =
== 2.9.21 subgroup ==


== A-team ==
=== A-team ===
Subgroup: 2.9.21
Subgroup: 2.9.21


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3202 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.3202 cents


= Miscellaneous subgroup temperaments =
== Miscellaneous subgroup temperaments ==


== Historical ==
=== Historical ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5
Subgroup: 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5


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[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2562 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2562 cents


== Hypnosis ==
=== Hypnosis ===
Related temperament: [[Swetismic temperaments #Hypnos|hypnos]], [[Hemifamity temperaments #Tricot|tricot]]
Related temperament: [[Swetismic temperaments #Hypnos|hypnos]], [[Hemifamity temperaments #Tricot|tricot]]



Revision as of 19:04, 3 June 2021

A subgroup temperament is a regular temperament defined on a just intonation subgroup that is not a full p-limit group.

Below are some subgroups and temperaments for them. Obviously, no attempt has been made at completeness; attention is focused on subgroups containing interesting chords. The reader may also want to consult the page on Chromatic pairs.

No-elevens subgroup

Sensi (aka Sensation)

For full 13-limit extensions, see Sensipent family or Sensi extensions.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13

Comma list: 91/90, 126/125, 169/168

Gencom: [2 9/7; 91/90 126/125 169/168]

Gencom mapping: [1 6 8 11 0 10], 0 -7 -9 -13 0 -10]]

Sval mapping: [1 6 8 11 10], 0 -7 -9 -13 -10]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 443.322

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RMS error: 1.321 cents

Tertiaseptal

For full 13- and 17-limit extensions, see Breedsmic temperaments #Tertiaseptal.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13

Comma list: 625/624, 2401/2400, 4096/4095

Gencom: [2 117/112; 625/624 2401/2400 4096/4095]

Gencom mapping: [1 3 2 3 0 1], 0 -22 5 -3 0 42]]

Sval mapping: [1 3 2 3 1], 0 -22 5 -3 42]]

POL2 generator: ~117/112 = 77.173

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RMS error: 0.1383 cents

2.3.5.7.13.17

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.13.17

Comma list: 625/624, 833/832, 1225/1224, 4096/4095

Gencom: [2 68/65; 625/624 833/832 1225/1224 4096/4095]

Gencom mapping: [1 3 2 3 0 1 1], 0 -22 5 -3 0 42 48]]

Sval mapping: [1 3 2 3 1 1], 0 -22 5 -3 42 48]]

POL2 generator: ~68/65 = 77.177

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RMS error: 0.1367 cents

No-sevens subgroup

Porkypine

Related temperament: Porcupine

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11

Comma list: 55/54, 100/99

Gencom: [2 10/9; 55/54, 100/99]

Gencom mapping: [1 2 3 0 4], 0 -3 -5 0 -4]]

Sval mapping: [1 2 3 4], 0 -3 -5 -4]]

POL2 generator: ~11/10 = 164.078

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RMS error: 2.287 cents

Mohaha

Related temperament: mohajira, migration

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11

Comma list: 81/80, 121/120

Gencom: [2 11/9; 81/80 121/120]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 0 2], 0 2 8 0 5]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 0 2], 0 2 8 5]]

POL2 generator: ~11/9 = 348.094

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RMS error: 1.392 cents

Music

Mohaha10ping2 by Billy Stiltner

Larry

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11

Comma list: 243/242, 4000/3993

Related temperaments: gravity, harry

Gencom: [2 40/27; 243/242 4000/3993]

Gencom mapping: [1 5 12 0 12], 0 -6 -17 0 -15]]

Sval mapping: [1 5 12 12], 0 -6 -17 -15]]

POL2 generator: ~40/27 = 683.166

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RMS error: 0.3025 cents

Tetracot

For full 11- and 13-limit extensions, see Tetracot family.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11

Comma list: 100/99, 243/242

Gencom: [2 10/9; 100/99 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 1 0 2], 0 4 9 0 10]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 1 2], 0 4 9 10]]

POL2 generator: ~10/9 = 175.985

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RMS error: 1.182 cents

2.3.5.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 243/242

Gencom: [2 10/9; 100/99 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 1 0 2 4], 0 4 9 0 10 -2]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 1 2 4], 0 4 9 10 -2]]

POL2 generator: ~10/9 = 176.196

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RMS error: 1.140 cents

Emka

For full 11- and 13-limit extensions, see Hemimean clan #Emka or Horwell temperaments #Emkay.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11

Comma list: 4000/3993, 9453125/9437184

Gencom: [2 11/8; 4000/3993 9453125/9437184]

Gencom mapping: [1 14 6 0 3], 0 -27 -8 0 1]]

Sval mapping: [1 14 6 3], 0 -27 -8 1]]

POL2 generator: ~11/8 = 551.7778

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RMS error: 0.1188 cents

2.3.5.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.5.11.13

Comma list: 625/624, 2200/2197, 4000/3993

Gencom: [2 11/8; 625/624, 2200/2197, 4000/3993]

Gencom mapping: [1 14 6 0 3 6], 0 -27 -8 0 1 -5]]

Sval mapping: [1 14 6 3 6], 0 -27 -8 1 -5]]

POL2 generator: ~11/8 = 551.7753

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RMS error: 0.1250 cents

No-fives subgroup

Semaphore

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma: 49/48

Gencom: [2 8/7; 49/48]

Gencom mapping: [1 2 0 3], 0 -2 0 -1]]

Sval mapping: [1 2 3], 0 -2 -1]]

POL2 generator: ~7/6 = 250.385

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RMS error: 2.523 cents

Archy

Archy (properly pronounced "arky", after the Greek theorist Archytas) can be thought of as "no-fives dominant" or "no-fives superpyth". The name comes from the fact that it tempers out 64/63, the Archytas comma.

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma: 64/63

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4], 0 1 0 -2]]

Sval mapping: [1 2 2], 0 -1 2]]

POL2 generator: ~3/2 = 709.321

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RMS error: 1.856 cents

Supra

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 99/98

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 99/98]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 7], 0 1 0 -2 -6]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 6 13], 0 1 -2 -6]]

POL2 generator: ~3/2 = 707.192

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RMS error: 1.977 cents

Supraphon

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 99/98

Gencom: [2 3/2; 64/63 78/77 99/98]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 7 9], 0 1 0 -2 -6 -9]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 6 13 18], 0 1 -2 -6 -9]]

POL2 generator: ~3/2 = 706.137

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RMS error: 2.095 cents

Suhajira

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 64/63, 243/242

Gencom: [2 11/9; 64/63 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 2], 0 2 0 -4 5]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 4 2], 0 2 -4 5]]

POL2 generator: ~11/9 = 353.958

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RMS error: 1.968 cents

2.3.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 64/63, 78/77, 144/143

Gencom: [2 11/9; 64/63 78/77 144/143]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 4 2 4], 0 2 0 -4 5 -1]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 4 2 4], 0 2 -4 5 -1]]

POL2 generator: ~11/9 = 353.775

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RMS error: 1.953 cents

Slendric

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma: 1029/1024

Gencom: [2 8/7; 1029/1024]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 3], 0 3 0 -1]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 3], 0 3 -1]]

POL2 generator: ~8/7 = 233.688

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RMS error: 0.3202 cents

Baladic

Subgroup: 2.3.7.13

Comma list: 169/168, 1029/1024

Gencom: [91/64 8/7; 169/168 1029/1024]

Sval mapping: [2 2 6 7], 0 3 -1 1]]

POL2 generator: ~8/7 = 233.6044

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RMS error: 0.5452 cents

2.3.7.13.17

Subgroup: 2.3.7.13.17

Comma list: 169/168, 273/272, 289/288

Gencom: [17/12 8/7; 169/168 273/272 289/288]

Sval mapping: [2 2 6 7 7], 0 3 -1 1 3]]

POL2 generator: ~8/7 = 233.6155

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RMS error: 0.5073 cents

Lee

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma: 177147/175616

Gencom: [2 81/56; 177147/175616]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 0 -3], 0 3 0 11]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 -3], 0 3 11]]

POL2 generator: ~81/56 = 633.525

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RMS error: 0.3519 cents

Skwares

Related temperament: squares

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma: 19683/19208

Gencom: [2 9/7; 19683/19208]

Gencom mapping: [1 3 6], 0 -4 -9]]

Sval mapping: [1 3 6], 0 -4 -9]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 425.365

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RMS error: 1.149 cents

2.3.7.11

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 243/242

Gencom: [2 9/7; 99/98 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 3 0 6 7], 0 -4 0 -9 -10]]

Sval mapping: [1 3 6 7], 0 -4 -9 -10]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 425.244

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RMS error: 1.099 cents

2.3.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 243/242

Gencom: [2 9/7; 78/77, 99/98, 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 3 0 6 7 9], 0 -4 0 -9 -10 -15]]

Sval mapping: [1 3 6 7 9], 0 -4 -9 -10 -15]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 424.457

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RMS error: 1.769 cents

Skwairs

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 99/98, 144/143, 243/242

Gencom: [2 9/7; 99/98, 144/143, 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 3 0 6 7 3], 0 -4 0 -9 -10 2]]

Sval mapping: [1 3 6 7 3], 0 -4 -9 -10 2]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 424.702

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RMS error: 1.290 cents

Bleu

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma: 17496/16807

Gencom: [2 54/49; 17496/16807]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 2], 0 5 0 7]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 2], 0 5 7]]

POL2 generator: ~54/49 = 139.848

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RMS error: 1.917 cents

2.3.7.11

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 99/98, 864/847

Gencom: [2 12/11; 99/98 864/847]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 2 3], 0 5 0 7 4]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 2 3], 0 5 7 4]]

POL2 generator: ~12/11 = 140.005

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RMS error: 1.829 cents

2.3.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 78/77, 99/98, 144/143

Gencom: [2 12/11; 78/77 99/98 144/143]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 2 3 3], 0 5 0 7 4 6]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 2 3 3], 0 5 7 4 6]]

POL2 generator: ~12/11 = 139.990

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RMS error: 1.752 cents

Hemif

Related temperament: hemififths, namo

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma: 1605632/1594323

Gencom: [2 2187/1792; 1605632/1594323]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 -1], 0 2 0 13]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 -1], 0 2 13]]

POL2 generator: ~2187/1792 = 351.485

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RMS error: 0.2344 cents

2.3.7.11

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 243/242, 896/891

Gencom: [2 11/9; 243/242 896/891]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 -1 2], 0 2 0 13 5]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 -1 2], 0 2 13 5]]

POL2 generator: ~11/9 = 351.535

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RMS error: 0.6108 cents

2.3.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 144/143, 243/242, 364/363

Gencom: [2 11/9; 144/143 243/242 364/363]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 -1 2 4], 0 2 0 13 5 -1]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 -1 2 4], 0 2 13 5 -1]]

POL2 generator: ~11/9 = 351.691

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RMS error: 0.7167 cents

Ennea

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 41503/41472, 43923/43904

Gencom: [2 99/98; 41503/41472, 43923/43904]

Gencom mapping: [1 14/9 0 25/9 31/9], 0 2 0 2 1]]

Sval mapping: [9 0 11 24], 0 2 2 1]]

POL2 generator: ~99/98 = 17.6258

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RMS error: 0.0383 cents

Leapfrog

Subgroup: 2.3.7

Comma list: 14680064/14348907

Gencom: [2 3/2; 14680064/14348907]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 -6], 0 1 0 15]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 -21], 0 1 15]]

POL2 generator: ~3/2 = 704.721 cents

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RMS error: 0.6202 cents

2.3.7.11

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 896/891, 1331/1323

Gencom: [2 3/2; 896/891 1331/1323]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 -6 -3], 0 1 0 15 11]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 -21 -14], 0 1 15 11]]

POL2 generator: ~3/2 = 704.753 cents

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RMS error: 0.6047 cents

2.3.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 352/351, 364/363

Gencom: [2 3/2; 169/169 352/351 364/363]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 -6 -3 -1], 0 1 0 15 11 8]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 -21 -14 -9], 0 1 15 11 8]]

POL2 generator: ~3/2 = 704.745 cents

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RMS error: 0.7541 cents

Music

Parapyth (Rank 3)

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11

Comma list: 896/891

Gencom: [2 3/2 28/27; 896/891]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 1 4], 0 1 0 3 -1], 0 0 0 1 1]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 0 7], 0 1 0 -4], 0 0 1 1]]

POL2 tuning: ~3 = 1903.834, ~7 = 3369.872

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RMS error: 0.4149 cents

2.3.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11.13

Comma list: 352/351, 364/363

The gencom below gives Margo Schulter's favored basis

Gencom: [2 3/2 28/27; 352/351 364/363]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 1 4 6], 0 1 0 3 -1 -4], 0 0 0 1 1 1]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 0 7 12], 0 1 0 -4 -7], 0 0 1 1 1]]

POL2 tuning: ~3 = 1903.856, ~7 = 3369.907

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RMS error: 0.3789 cents

Neutral

Neutral can be thought of as the 2.3.11 version of either mohajira or maqamic, as well as suhajira and ringo. Among other things, it is the temperament optimizing the neutral tetrad.

Subgroup: 2.3.11

Comma: 243/242

Gencom: [2 11/9; 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 0 2], 0 2 0 0 5]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 2], 0 2 5]]

POL2 generator: ~11/9 = 350.525

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RMS error: 0.3021 cents

Seven note albitonic scale

Ten note chromatic scale

Seventeen note mega chromatic scale

Namo

Subgroup: 2.3.11.13

Comma list: 144/143, 243/242

Gencom: [2 11/9; 144/143 243/242]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 0 2 4], 0 2 0 0 5 -1]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 2 4], 0 2 5 -1]]

POL2 generator: ~11/9 = 351.488

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RMS error: 0.7038 cents

No-threes subgroup

Didacus

Related temperaments: roulette, hemithirds

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma: 3136/3125

Gencom: [2 28/25; 3136/3125]

Gencom map: [1 0 2 2], 0 0 2 5]]

Sval mapping: [1 2 2], 0 2 5]]

POL2 generator: ~28/25 = 93.772

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RMS error: 0.2138 cents

Llywelyn

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma: 4194304/4117715

Gencom: [2 8/7; 4194304/4117715]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3], 0 0 7 -1]]

Sval mapping: [1 1 3], 0 7 -1]]

POL2 generator: ~8/7 = 226.910

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RMS error: 0.5391 cents

Rainy

Three generators make an 8/7; five generators make a 5/4. This is the no-threes version of tertiaseptal.

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma: 2100875/2097152

Gencom: [2 256/245; 2100875/2097152]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 2 3], 0 0 5 -3]]

Sval mapping: [1 2 3], 0 5 -3]]

POL2 generator: ~256/245 = 77.205

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RMS error: 0.058596 cents

2.9.7.11 subgroup

Machine

Subgroup: 2.9.7.11

Commas: 64/63, 99/98

Gencom: [2 8/7; 64/63 99/98]

Gencom mapping: [1 3/2 0 3 4], 0 1/2 0 -1 -3]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 6 13], 0 1 -1 -3]]

POL2 generator: ~8/7 = 214.384

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RMS error: 1.977 cents

Apparatus

Subgroup: 2.9.7.11

Comma list: 41503/41472, 322102/321489

Gencom: [2 77/72; 41503/41472 322102/321489]

Gencom mapping: [1 5/2 0 3 5], 0 -19/2 0 -2 -16]]

Sval mapping: [1 5 3 5], 0 -19 -2 -16]]

POL2 generator: ~77/72 = 115.570

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RMS error: 0.0673 cents

Mechanism

Subgroup: 2.9.7.11

Comma list: 896/891, 26411/26244

Gencom: [2 9/7; 896/891 26411/26244]

Gencom mapping: [1 5/2 0 5 2], 0 -5/2 0 -6 4]]

Sval mapping: [1 5 5 2], 0 -5 -6 4]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 438.465

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RMS error: 0.4262 cents

2.9.15.7 subgroup

Stacks (aka 2magic)

Subgroup: 2.9.15.7

Comma list: 225/224, 245/243

Gencom: [2 9/7; 225/224 245/243]

Gencom mapping: [1 5/2 5/2 5], 0 -5/2 -1/2 -6]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 2 -1], 0 5 3 6]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 439.296

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RMS error: 1.074 cents

2.9.15.7.11

Subgroup: 2.9.15.7.11

Comma list: 100/99, 225/224, 245/243

Gencom: [2 9/7; 100/99 225/224 245/243]

Gencom mapping: [1 5/2 5/2 5 2], 0 -5/2 -1/2 -6 4]]

Sval mapping: [1 0 2 -1 6], 0 5 3 6 -4]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 438.607

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RMS error: 1.226 cents

2.9.15.7.11.13

Subgroup: 2.9.15.7.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 144/143, 196/195

Gencom: [2 9/7; 100/99 105/104 144/143 196/195]

Gencom mapping: [1 5/2 5/2 5 2 7], 0 -5/2 -1/2 -6 4 -9]]

Sval map: [1 0 2 -1 6 -2], 0 5 3 6 -4 9]]

POL2 generator: ~9/7 = 438.977

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RMS error: 1.540 cents

2.9.21 subgroup

A-team

Subgroup: 2.9.21

Comma: 1029/1024

Gencom: [2 21/16; 1029/1024]

Gencom mapping: [1 1 0 3], 0 3/2 0 -1/2]]

Sval mapping: [1 2 4], 0 3 1]]

POL2 generator: ~21/16 = 467.375

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RMS error: 0.3202 cents

Miscellaneous subgroup temperaments

Historical

Subgroup: 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5

Comma list: 364/363, 441/440, 1001/1000

Sval mapping: [1 2 0 1 2], 0 -6 7 2 -9]]

POL2 generator: ~21/20 = 83.016

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RMS error: 0.2562 cents

Hypnosis

Related temperament: hypnos, tricot

Subgroup: 2.3.7.11/5.13

Comma list: 169/168, 540/539, 729/728

Sval mapping: [1 0 -3 8 0], 0 3 11 -13 7]]

POL2 generator: ~13/9 = 633.518

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RMS error: 0.5379 cents