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:: It's exactly the same problem there. Well, the family pages started like this on the wikispaces-based wiki. I'd try to reduce these flaws step by step. There are also articles that I would better not touch in this respect, because they are a already a book by their own, for instance [[Harmonic Entropy]], but the vast majority of articles would clearly benefit from a consistent structure. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 16:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

== My Second Idea for a Notation System ==

Okay, after talking with Sam, I now think while we need to make another system. Truth be told, I've been trying to make a system that is accessible for people with a background in [[24edo]] like myself this whole time, and this is the main reason for my notation systems being as complicated as they are. Nevertheless, I'm hoping to make things as intuitive as possible as well. I'm thinking that this new system should keep the traditional symbols for naturals, sharps, flats, double sharps and double flats, and that we need to make two different versions of each of the quartertone accidentals to reflect how the rastma is not tempered out, and that some of these quartertone accidentals can only be lowered, while the others can only be raised.

One set of quartertone accidentals has the two broad cross strokes of the traditional demisharp accidental set closer together than those of the sharp accidental while keeping the same traditional "demiflat" accidental, while the "sesquisharp" accidental and the "sesquiflat" accidental in this set are similarly redesigned, and modify the base tone by an interval consisting of an apotome and a 33/32 quartertone. The second set of quartertone accidentals are also based on the traditional quartertone accidentals, and the second "demisharp" and "sesquisharp" accidentals has the two broad cross strokes set further apart than those of the sharp accidental, while the corresponding "demiflat" and "sesquiflat" accidentals each have a narrow cross stroke on their stems- the "demisharp" and "demiflat" accidentals in this set modify the base tone by a 709/704 interval, while the "sesquisharp" and "sesquiflat" accidentals in this set modify the base tone by an interval consisting of an apotome and a 709/704 interval. Furthermore, since the rastma itself is a potential JI basis for the single step of 159edo, and since combined symbols need to be deciphered, I think we need to make two new sets of symbols- one set for modification by one or two syntonic commas based on the combining arrows from Helmholtz-Ellis notation, and another pair of symbols to represent modification by a rastma. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:46, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

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 :: It's exactly the same problem there. Well, the family pages started like this on the wikispaces-based wiki. I'd try to reduce these flaws step by step. There are also articles that I would better not touch in this respect, because they are a already a book by their own, for instance [[Harmonic Entropy]], but the vast majority of articles would clearly benefit from a consistent structure. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 16:21, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
+== My Second Idea for a Notation System ==
+Okay, after talking with Sam, I now think while we need to make another system.  Truth be told, I've been trying to make a system that is accessible for people with a background in [[24edo]] like myself this whole time, and this is the main reason for my notation systems being as complicated as they are.  Nevertheless, I'm hoping to make things as intuitive as possible as well.  I'm thinking that this new system should keep the traditional symbols for naturals, sharps, flats, double sharps and double flats, and that we need to make two different versions of each of the quartertone accidentals to reflect how the rastma is not tempered out, and that some of these quartertone accidentals can only be lowered, while the others can only be raised.
+One set of quartertone accidentals has the two broad cross strokes of the traditional demisharp accidental set closer together than those of the sharp accidental while keeping the same traditional "demiflat" accidental, while the "sesquisharp" accidental and the "sesquiflat" accidental in this set are similarly redesigned, and modify the base tone by an interval consisting of an apotome and a 33/32 quartertone.  The second set of quartertone accidentals are also based on the traditional quartertone accidentals, and the second "demisharp" and "sesquisharp" accidentals has the two broad cross strokes set further apart than those of the sharp accidental, while the corresponding "demiflat" and "sesquiflat" accidentals each have a narrow cross stroke on their stems- the "demisharp" and "demiflat" accidentals in this set modify the base tone by a 709/704 interval, while the "sesquisharp" and "sesquiflat" accidentals in this set modify the base tone by an interval consisting of an apotome and a 709/704 interval.  Furthermore, since the rastma itself is a potential JI basis for the single step of 159edo, and since combined symbols need to be deciphered, I think we need to make two new sets of symbols- one set for modification by one or two syntonic commas based on the combining arrows from Helmholtz-Ellis notation, and another pair of symbols to represent modification by a rastma. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:46, 10 October 2020 (UTC)