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The ''archytas clan'' tempers out the [[64/63|Archytas comma]], 64/63. This means that four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 9/7 major third. (Note the similarity in function to [[81/80|81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 5/4 major third.) This leads to tunings with 3s and 7s quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo|22edo]]. Adding 50/49 to the list of commas gives pajara, 36/35 gives dominant, 16/15 gives mother, 126/125 gives augene, 28/27 gives blacksmith, 245/243 gives superpyth, 250/243 gives porcupine, 686/675 gives beatles, 360/343 gives schism, 3125/3087 gives passion, and 2430/2401 gives quasisuper. Pajara is discussed under [[Diaschismic_family|diaschismic family]], dominant under [[Meantone_family|meantone family]], augene under [[Augmented_family|augmented family]] and porcupine under [[Porcupine_family|porcupine family]]. The rest are considered below.
The ''archytas clan'' tempers out the [[64/63|Archytas comma]], 64/63. This means that four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 9/7 major third. (Note the similarity in function to [[81/80]] in meantone, where four stacked 3/2 fifths equal a 5/4 major third.) This leads to tunings with 3s and 7s quite sharp, such as those of [[22edo]]. Adding 50/49 to the list of commas gives pajara, 36/35 gives dominant, 16/15 gives mother, 126/125 gives augene, 28/27 gives blacksmith, 245/243 gives superpyth, 250/243 gives porcupine, 686/675 gives beatles, 360/343 gives schism, 3125/3087 gives passion, 2430/2401 gives quasisuper, and 4375/4374 gives modus.  


=Mother=
Discussed under their respective 5-limit families are [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|pajara]], [[Meantone family #Dominant|dominant]], [[Augmented family #Augene|augene]], [[porcupine family|porcupine]], and [[Tetracot family #Modus|modus]]. The rest are considered below.
 
= Mother =
Commas: 16/15, 21/20
Commas: 16/15, 21/20


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Wedgie: <<1 -1 -2 -4 -6 -2||
Wedgie: <<1 -1 -2 -4 -6 -2||


EDOs: 5, 148, 153
EDOs: {{EDOs|5, 148, 153}}


Badness: 0.0242
Badness: 0.0242


=Blacksmith=
= Blacksmith =
== 5-limit (blackwood) ==
Comma: 256/243
 
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 399.594
 
Map: [<5 8 0|, <0 0 1|]
 
EDOs: {{EDOs|5, 10, 15}}
 
Badness: 0.0638
 
== 7-limit ==
Commas: 28/27, 49/48
Commas: 28/27, 49/48


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Wedgie: <<0 5 0 8 0 -14||
Wedgie: <<0 5 0 8 0 -14||


EDOs: 5, 10, 15, 40b, 55b
EDOs: {{EDOs|5, 10, 15, 40b, 55b}}


Badness: 0.0256
Badness: 0.0256


==11-limit==
== 11-limit ==
Commas: 28/27, 49/48, 55/54
Commas: 28/27, 49/48, 55/54


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Map: [<5 8 0 14 29|, <0 0 1 0 -1|]
Map: [<5 8 0 14 29|, <0 0 1 0 -1|]


EDOs: 5, 10, 15, 40be, 55be, 70bde, 85bcde
EDOs: {{EDOs|5, 10, 15, 40be, 55be, 70bde, 85bcde}}


Badness: 0.0246
Badness: 0.0246


==13-limit==
=== 13-limit ===
Commas: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 55/54
Commas: 28/27, 40/39, 49/48, 55/54


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Map: [<5 8 0 14 29 7|, <0 0 1 0 -1 1|]
Map: [<5 8 0 14 29 7|, <0 0 1 0 -1 1|]


EDOs: 5, 10, 15, 25e, 40bef
EDOs: {{EDOs|5, 10, 15, 25e, 40bef}}


Badness: 0.0205
Badness: 0.0205
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[[File:blacksmith10.jpg|alt=blacksmith10.jpg|blacksmith10.jpg]]
==Blackwood==
''Blackwood (5-limit)''
Comma: 256/243
[[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 399.594
Map: [<5 8 0|, <0 0 1|]
EDOs: 5, 10, 15
Badness: 0.0638


=Superpyth=
=Superpyth=
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Wedgie: <<1 9 -2 12 -6 -30||
Wedgie: <<1 9 -2 12 -6 -30||


EDOs: 5, 17, 22, 27, 49
EDOs: {{EDOs|5, 17, 22, 27, 49}}


Badness: 0.0323
Badness: 0.0323
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Map: [<1 0 -12 6 -22|, <0 1 9 -2 16|]
Map: [<1 0 -12 6 -22|, <0 1 9 -2 16|]


EDOs: 22, 49
EDOs: {{EDOs|22, 49}}


Badness: 0.0250
Badness: 0.0250


==13-limit==
=== 13-limit ===
Commas: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99
Commas: 64/63, 78/77, 91/90, 100/99


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Map: [<1 0 -12 6 -22 -17|, <0 1 9 -2 16 13|]
Map: [<1 0 -12 6 -22 -17|, <0 1 9 -2 16 13|]


EDOs: 22, 27e, 49, 76bcde
EDOs: {{EDOs|22, 27e, 49, 76bcde}}


Badness: 0.0247
Badness: 0.0247
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Map: [<1 0 -12 6 13|, <0 1 9 -2 -6|]
Map: [<1 0 -12 6 13|, <0 1 9 -2 -6|]


EDOs: 5, 7, 12, 17, 22
EDOs: {{EDOs|5, 7, 12, 17, 22}}


Badness: 0.0328
Badness: 0.0328
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Badness: 0.0363
Badness: 0.0363


=Beatles=
= Beatles =
== 5-limit ==
Comma: 524288/492075
Comma: 524288/492075


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Map: [<1 1 5 4 10|,<0 2 -9 -4 -22|]
Map: [<1 1 5 4 10|,<0 2 -9 -4 -22|]


EDOs: 27e, 37, 64be, 91bcde
EDOs: {{EDOs|27e, 37, 64be, 91bcde}}


Badness: 0.0456
Badness: 0.0456


==13-limit==
=== 13-limit ===
Commas: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168
Commas: 64/63, 91/90, 100/99, 169/168


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Map: [<1 1 5 4 10 4|,<0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1|]
Map: [<1 1 5 4 10 4|,<0 2 -9 -4 -22 -1|]


EDOs: 27e, 37, 64be
EDOs: {{EDOs|27e, 37, 64be}}


Badness: 0.0302
Badness: 0.0302
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Map: [<1 1 5 4 2|,<0 2 -9 -4 5|]
Map: [<1 1 5 4 2|,<0 2 -9 -4 5|]


EDOs: 10, 17c, 27e
EDOs: {{EDOs|10, 17c, 27e}}


Badness: 0.0329
Badness: 0.0329
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Map: [<1 1 5 4 2 4|,<0 2 -9 -4 5 -1|]
Map: [<1 1 5 4 2 4|,<0 2 -9 -4 5 -1|]


EDOs: 10, 17c, 27e
EDOs: {{EDOs|10, 17c, 27e}}


Badness: 0.0226
Badness: 0.0226


=Schism=
= Schism =
{{see also|Schismatic family #Schism}}
 
Commas: 64/63, 360/343
Commas: 64/63, 360/343


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Wedgie: <<1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18||
Wedgie: <<1 -8 -2 -15 -6 18||


EDOs: 12, 41d, 53d
EDOs: {{EDOs|12, 41d, 53d}}


Badness: 0.0566
Badness: 0.0566
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Map: [<1 0 15 6 13|, <0 1 -8 -2 -6|]
Map: [<1 0 15 6 13|, <0 1 -8 -2 -6|]


EDOs: 12, 29de, 41de
EDOs: {{EDOs|12, 29de, 41de}}


Badness: 0.0375
Badness: 0.0375


=Passion=
= Passion =
 
== 5-limit ==
==5-limit==
Comma: 262144/253125
Comma: 262144/253125


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Map: [<1 2 2|, <0 -5 4|]
Map: [<1 2 2|, <0 -5 4|]


EDOs: 11, 12, 49, 61, 73
EDOs: {{EDOs|11, 12, 49, 61, 73}}


Badness: 0.1686
Badness: 0.1686


===Passive===
=== Passive ===
Commas: 225/224, 256/245
Commas: 225/224, 256/245


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Map: [<1 2 2 3|, <0 -5 4 -2|]
Map: [<1 2 2 3|, <0 -5 4 -2|]


EDOs: 1, 11, 12, 49d
EDOs: {{EDOs|1, 11, 12, 49d}}


Badness: 0.0751
Badness: 0.0751


==7-limit==
== 7-limit ==
Commas: 64/63, 3125/3087
Commas: 64/63, 3125/3087


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Generators: 2, 16/15
Generators: 2, 16/15


EDOs: 12, 37, 49, 110bcd
EDOs: {{EDOs|12, 37, 49, 110bcd}}


Badness: 0.0623
Badness: 0.0623
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Map: [<1 2 2 2 2|, <0 -5 4 10 18|]
Map: [<1 2 2 2 2|, <0 -5 4 10 18|]


EDOs: 12, 37, 49
EDOs: {{EDOs|12, 37, 49}}


Badness: 0.0408
Badness: 0.0408
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Map: [<1 2 2 2 2 2|, <0 -5 4 10 18 21|]
Map: [<1 2 2 2 2 2|, <0 -5 4 10 18 21|]


EDOs: 12f, 37, 49f
EDOs: {{EDOs|12f, 37, 49f}}


Badness: 0.0309
Badness: 0.0309


=Fervor=
= Fervor =
== 5-limit ==
Comma: 67108864/61509375
Comma: 67108864/61509375


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Map: [<1 4 -2|, <0 -5 9|]
Map: [<1 4 -2|, <0 -5 9|]


EDOs: 25, 27
EDOs: {{EDOs|25, 27}}


Badness: 0.8526
Badness: 0.8526
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Wedgie: <<5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2||
Wedgie: <<5 -9 -10 -26 -30 2||


EDOs: 25, 27
EDOs: {{EDOs|25, 27}}


Badness: 0.1085
Badness: 0.1085
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Map: [<1 4 -2 -2 3|, <0 -5 9 10 1|]
Map: [<1 4 -2 -2 3|, <0 -5 9 10 1|]


EDOs: 25e, 27e
EDOs: {{EDOs|25e, 27e}}


Badness: 0.0521
Badness: 0.0521
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Map: [<1 4 -2 -2 3 -4|, <0 -5 9 10 1 16|]
Map: [<1 4 -2 -2 3 -4|, <0 -5 9 10 1 16|]


EDOs: 27e
EDOs: {{EDOs|27e}}


Badness: 0.0397
Badness: 0.0397
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Wedgie: <<1 -13 -2 -23 -2 -6 32||
Wedgie: <<1 -13 -2 -23 -2 -6 32||


EDOs: 22, 61
EDOs: {{EDOs|22, 61}}


Badness: 0.0638
Badness: 0.0638


==Quasisupra==
==Quasisupra==
Quasisupra can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11 temperament [[Supra|supra]], with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in (rather than the superpyth mapping of 5, which results in suprapyth).
Commas: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120
Commas: 64/63, 99/98, 121/120
Quasisupra can be viewed as an extension of the excellent 2.3.7.11 temperament [[Supra|supra]], with the quasisuper mapping of 5 thrown in (rather than the superpyth mapping of 5, which results in suprapyth).


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.205
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 708.205
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Map: [<1 2 -3 2 1|, <0 -1 13 2 6|]
Map: [<1 2 -3 2 1|, <0 -1 13 2 6|]


EDOs: 17c, 22, 27c, 39d, 61d
EDOs: {{EDOs|17c, 22, 27c, 39d, 61d}}


Badness: 0.0322
Badness: 0.0322
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Map: [<1 0 23 6 13 18|, <0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9|]
Map: [<1 0 23 6 13 18|, <0 1 -13 -2 -6 -9|]


EDOs: 17c, 22, 39d, 61df, 100bcdf
EDOs: {{EDOs|17c, 22, 39d, 61df, 100bcdf}}


Badness: 0.0302
Badness: 0.0302
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Map: [<1 0 23 6 -22|, <0 1 -13 -2 16|]
Map: [<1 0 23 6 -22|, <0 1 -13 -2 16|]


EDOs: 22
EDOs: {{EDOs|22}}


Badness: 0.0835
Badness: 0.0835


=Progress=
= Progress =
== 5-limit ==
Comma: 32768/30375
Comma: 32768/30375


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Map: [<1 0 5|, <0 3 -5|]
Map: [<1 0 5|, <0 3 -5|]


EDOs: 4, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc, 62bc
EDOs: {{EDOs|4, 13, 15, 32c, 47bc, 62bc}}


Badness: 0.2461
Badness: 0.2461
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Wedgie: <<3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0||
Wedgie: <<3 -5 -6 -15 -18 0||


EDOs: 13, 15, 32c, 79bcc, 111bcc
EDOs: {{EDOs|13, 15, 32c, 79bcc, 111bcc}}


Badness: 0.0664
Badness: 0.0664
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Map: [<1 0 5 6 4|, <0 3 -5 -6 -1|]
Map: [<1 0 5 6 4|, <0 3 -5 -6 -1|]


EDOs: 13, 15, 32c, 47bc, 79bcce
EDOs: {{EDOs|13, 15, 32c, 47bc, 79bcce}}


Badness: 0.0310
Badness: 0.0310


==13-limit==
=== 13-limit ===
Commas: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75
Commas: 56/55, 64/63, 66/65, 77/75


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Map: [<1 0 5 6 4 0|, <0 3 -5 -6 -1 7|]
Map: [<1 0 5 6 4 0|, <0 3 -5 -6 -1 7|]


EDOs: 15, 17c, 32cf
EDOs: {{EDOs|15, 17c, 32cf}}


Badness: 0.0262
Badness: 0.0262


==Progressive==
=== Progressive ===
Commas: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75
Commas: 26/25, 56/55, 64/63, 77/75


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Map: [<1 0 5 6 4 9|, <0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10|]
Map: [<1 0 5 6 4 9|, <0 3 -5 -6 -1 -10|]


EDOs: 15f, 17c, 32c, 49c
EDOs: {{EDOs|15f, 17c, 32c, 49c}}


Badness: 0.0327
Badness: 0.0327
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