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Revision as of 14:24, 18 July 2020

The 33 equal division divides the octave into 33 equal parts of 36.3636 cents each. It is not especially good at representing all rational intervals in the 7-limit, but it does very well on the 7-limit 3*33 subgroup 2.27.15.21.11.13. On this subgroup it tunes things to the same tuning as 99edo, and as a subgroup patent val it tempers out the same commas. The 99 equal temperaments hemififths, amity, parakleismic, hemiwuerschmidt, ennealimmal and hendecatonic can be reduced to this subgroup and give various possibilities for MOS scales, etc. In particular, the terrain subgroup temperament can be tuned via the 5\33 generator. The full system of harmony provides the optimal patent val for slurpee temperament in the 5, 7, 11 and 13 limits.

While relatively uncommon, 33edo is actually quite an interesting system. As a multiple of 11edo, it approximates the 7th and 11th harmonics via Andrew Heathwaite's 4L+3s Orgone modes (see 26edo). 33edo also tunes the 13th harmonic slightly flat, allowing it to approximate the 21st and 17th harmonics as well, having an 3L+7s of L=4 s=3. It tunes the perfect fifth about 11 cents flat, leading to a near perfect 10/9. The <33 52 76| or 33c val tempers out 81/80 and so leads to a very flat meantone tuning where the major tone is approximately 10/9 in size. Leaving the scale be would result in a flattone 5L+2s of L=5 s=4

Instead of the flat 19\33 fifth you may use the sharp fifth of 20\33, over 25 cents sharp. Two of these lead to a 9/8 of 7\33, which is about 22/19 in size and may be counted as a small third. Between the flat 5\33 version of 9/8 and the sharp 7\33 version there is, of course, a 6\33 = 2\11 11edo interval of 218 cents. Now 6\33 + 5\33 = 11\33 = 1\3 of an octave, or 400 cents, the same major third as 12edo. Also, we have both a 327 minor third from 9\33 = 3\11, the same as the 22edo minor third, and a flatter 8\33 third of 291 cents, which if you like could also be called a flat 19th harmonic, but much more accurately a 13/11 sharp by 1.7 cents (if you use the patent val it is an extremely inaccurate 6/5). Another talent it has is that 7/5 is tuned quite accurately by 16\33, and we may put two 8\33 versions of 13/11 together to produce the cuthbert triad. The 8\33 generator, with MOS of size 5, 9 and 13, gives plenty of scope for these, as well as the 11, 13 and 19 harmonics (taking the generator as a 19/16) which are relatively well in tune.

So while it might not be the most harmonically accurate temperament, it's structurally quite interesting, and it approximates the full 19-limit consort in it's way. You could even say it tunes the 23rd and 29th harmonics ten cents flat if you were so inclined; as well as getting within two cents of the 37th.

Step # ET Just Difference
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Ups and Downs Notation
Cents Interval Cents
0 unison 1 D
1 36.364 48/47 Up unison D#
2 72.727 24/23 Downminor 2nd D#^
3 109.091 16/15 Minor 2nd Ebv
4 145.455 12/11 Mid 2nd Eb
5 181.818 10/9 Major 2nd E
6 218.182 17/15 216.6866 Upmajor 2nd E#
7 254.545 7/6 2nd/3rd E#^/Fbv
8 290.909 13/11 289.2097 Subminor 3rd Fb
9 327.273 6/5 Minor 3rd F
10 363.636 16/13 Neutral 3rd F#
11 400.000 5/4 Major 3rd F#^
12 436.364 9/7 Supermajor 3rd Gbv
13 472.727 21/16 Diminished 4th Gb
14 509.091 4/3 Perfect 4th G
15 545.455 11/8 Augmented 4th G#
16 581.818 7/5 Low Tritone G#^
17 618.182 10/7 High Tritone Abv
18 654.545 16/11 Diminished 5th Ab
19 690.909 3/2 Perfect 5th A
20 727.273 32/21 Augmented 5th A#
21 763.636 14/9 Subminor 6th A#^
22 800.000 8/5 Minor 6th Bbv
23 836.364 13/8 Mid 6th Bb
24 872.727 5/3 Major 6th B
25 909.091 22/13 Supermajor 6th B#
26 945.455 12/7 6th/7th B#^/Cbv
27 981.818 7/4 Subminor 7th Cb
28 1018.182 9/5 Minor 7th C
29 1054.545 11/6 Mid 7th C#
30 1090.909 15/8 Major 7th C#^
31 1127.273 23/12 Supermajor 7th Dbv
32 1163.636 47/24 Down 8ve Db
33 1200 2/1 1200 0 8ve 8 D

Nearby Equal Temperaments:

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Music:

Deluge Peter Kosmorsky

5 5 1 mode of 33 equal (with video) play by Chris Vaisvil

Bach Contrapunctus 4 Claudi Meneghin version