No-fives subgroup temperaments: Difference between revisions

Temperaments with a 2.3.11 gene: - semaerophore (addressed in semaphoresmic clan)
Switch to Sintel's badness, WE & CWE tunings (8/). + infraug ({729/704}) to accommodate the 2.3.11.13-subgroup temp
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.185
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.185
== Infraug ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.11
[[Comma list]]: 729/704
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 -6 | 0 1 6 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1202.5969{{c}} ~3/2 = 692.7443{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +2.597 -6.614 +5.148 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}} ~3/2 = 692.0116{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -9.943 +0.752 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7, 19, 26, 33, 59b, 92b }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.734
=== 2.3.11.13 ===
Subgroup: 2.3.11.13
Comma list: 144/143, 729/704
Subgrouo-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 10 | 0 1 6 -4 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1202.1934{{c}}, ~3/2 = 692.8902{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 691.7585{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7, 19, 26, 59b }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.725
=== Aerophore ===
Subgroup: 2.3.11.19
Comma list: 363/361, 729/704
Subgrouo-val mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 -6 | 0 2 12 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~19/11
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1202.6380{{c}}, ~19/11 = 947.4782{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~19/11 = 945.7779{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 14, 19, 33 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.59


=== Paralimmal ===
=== Paralimmal ===
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Badness (Sintel): 1.31
Badness (Sintel): 1.31
=== Aerophore ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.11.19
[[Comma list]]: 363/361, 729/704
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 -6 -6 | 0 2 12 13 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~19/11
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1202.6380{{c}}, ~19/11 = 947.4782{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~19/11 = 945.7779{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 14, 19, 33 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.59


== Temperaments with a 2.3.13 gene ==
== Temperaments with a 2.3.13 gene ==
=== Superflat ===
=== Ultraflat ===
Superflat is a diatonic-based temperament that makes [[1053/1024]] vanish, so [[13/8]] is a minor sixth, and [[16/13]] is a major third. The more accurate tunings for this temperament are generated by a fifth at least as flat as those of [[flattone]], although often even flatter (such as [[40edo]]'s fifth). Superflat can be viewed as a 2.3.13 subgroup analogue of [[meantone]] and [[archy]]. Superflat diatonic scales have a character somewhere between neutral third scales (or [[3L 4s|mosh]]) and meantone diatonic scales.
Ultraflat is a diatonic-based [[exotemperament]] that makes [[27/26]] vanish, so [[13/8]] is a major sixth.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.13
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.13


[[Comma list]]: [[1053/1024]]
[[Comma list]]: 27/26


{{Mapping|legend=2|1 1 6|0 1 -4}}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 -1 | 0 1 3 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]] (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~[[3/2]] = 692.939
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.6561{{c}}, ~3/2 = 686.9485{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.656 -13.350 +23.630 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 687.1143{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -14.841 +20.815 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|5f, 7, 12, 19, 45f, 64f, 147bfff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 2, 5, 7 }}


[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 1.591 cents
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.200


==== 2.3.11.13 ====
=== Superflat ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.11.13
Superflat is a less inaccurate cousin of ultraflat, with less flat fifths. It tempers out [[1053/1024]], so [[13/8]] is a minor sixth, and [[16/13]] is a major third. Superflat and ultraflat intersect in [[7edo]], where major sixths and minor sixths are not distinguished.  


[[Comma list]]: [[144/143]], [[729/704]]
The more accurate tunings for this temperament are generated by a fifth at least as flat as those of [[flattone]], although often even flatter (such as [[40edo]]'s fifth). Superflat can be viewed as a 2.3.13 subgroup analogue of [[meantone]] and [[archy]]. Superflat diatonic scales have a character somewhere between neutral third scales (or [[3L 4s|mosh]]) and meantone diatonic scales.  
 
[[Optimal tuning]] (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~[[3/2]] = 692.247
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|7, 19, 26, 59b }}
 
=== Ultraflat ===
Ultraflat is the much more inaccurate cousin of superflat, with even flatter fifths. [[27/26]] is tempered out rather than [[1053/1024]], so [[13/8]] is a major sixth. These temperaments intersect in [[7edo]], where major sixths and minor sixths are not distinguished.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.13
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.13


[[Comma list]]: [[27/26]]
[[Comma list]]: 1053/1024


{{Mapping|legend=2|1 1 2|0 1 3}}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 10 | 0 1 -4 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]] (CTE): ~2 = 1/1, ~[[3/2]] = 688.391
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1203.1291{{c}} ~3/2 = 695.6489{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +3.129 -3.177 -4.349 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}} ~3/2 = 693.6081{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -8.347 +14.960 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 7 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5f, 7, 12, 19, 45f, 64f, 147bfff }}


[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 4.367 cents
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.610


=== Threedic ===
=== Threedic ===
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[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1/1, ~[[13/9]] = 634.173
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1/1, ~[[13/9]] = 634.173


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1|11bff, 13f, 15, 17, 36, 53, 70, 123, 193, 316, 755f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 11bff, 13f, 15, 17, 36, 53, 70, 123, 193, 316, 755f }}


[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2054 cents
[[Tp tuning #T2 tuning|RMS error]]: 0.2054 cents