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== Query on mention of 36/35 -- is 36/25 meant? ==

There are references to 36/35 and 10/7 differing by 126/125, the starling comma. Could this mean 36/25, or (6/5)^2? [[User:Mschulter1325|Mschulter1325]] 07:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

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== Move to "dyadically consonant chord" ==

To me, "dyadic chord" most intuitively means "chord that is a dyad".

== On anomalous saturated suspensions ==

I can't keep a straight face whilst looking at this section, I'm too childish I may admit, but it's kind of an unfortunate acronym. I propose it to be renamed to something like AnSaS or related.

I ~~can~~'t ~~keep a straight face whilst looking at this section, I'm too childish I may admit,~~ but it's ~~kind of an unfortunate acronym~~. ~~I propose it to be renamed~~ to ~~something like AnSaS or related~~.

: I don't share that feeling but maybe that's becuz English isn't my first language. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

: <small>P.S. plz remember to sign your comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>.</small>

== Chord classification ==

Some temperaments temper out commas that lead chords which otherwise come in otonal-utonal pairs to become neutralized, such as 7:8:9 and 9:10:11 in superpyth. In [[Chords of huygens]], the neutralized 8:9:10 and 11:14:18 chords are both classified as otonal, while in [[Chords of mohajira]], the neutralized 10:11:12 chord is classified as utonal. I believe this is based on the transversal, as the 8:9:10, 11:14:18, and 10:11:12 chords are generated as 1-9/8-5/4, 1-14/9-11/9, and 1-20/11-5/3 respectively. However, classifying these chords as otonal or utonal is misleading, so there should be a convention; perhaps ambitonal, or another term entirely.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 23:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

~~Some temperaments temper out commas that lead chords which otherwise come in otonal-utonal pairs to become neutralized, such as 7:8:9 and 9~~:~~10:11 in superpyth. In [[Chords of huygens]], the neutralized 8:9:10 and 11:14:18 chords~~ are both classified as otonal, while in [[Chords of mohajira]], the neutralized 10:11:12 chord is classified as utonal. I believe this is based on the transversal, as the 8:9:10, 11:14:18, and 10:11:12 chords are generated as 1-9/8-~~5/4, 1-14/9-11/9, and 1-20/11-5/3 respectively~~. ~~However, classifying these chords~~ as otonal or utonal is ~~misleading, so there should be~~ a ~~convention; perhaps~~ ambitonal, ~~or another term entirely~~.--[[User:~~Overthink~~|~~Overthink~~]] ([[User talk:~~Overthink~~|talk]]) 23:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)

: These are actually plurichords that change their o/u-tonality on different interpretations. I would suggest marking them as both otonal/utonal, which is a meaningful distinction to make from ambitonal. Perhaps it's also good to explicitly mark their plurichord nature and the associated temperaments, if we can find a way to do so. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

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 == Query on mention of 36/35 -- is 36/25 meant? ==
 There are references to 36/35 and 10/7 differing by 126/125, the starling comma. Could this mean 36/25, or (6/5)^2? [[User:Mschulter1325|Mschulter1325]] 07:31, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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 == Move to "dyadically consonant chord" ==
 To me, "dyadic chord" most intuitively means "chord that is a dyad".
 == On anomalous saturated suspensions ==
+I can't keep a straight face whilst looking at this section, I'm too childish I may admit, but it's kind of an unfortunate acronym. I propose it to be renamed to something like AnSaS or related.
-I can't keep a straight face whilst looking at this section, I'm too childish I may admit, but it's kind of an unfortunate acronym. I propose it to be renamed to something like AnSaS or related.
+: I don't share that feeling but maybe that's becuz English isn't my first language. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)
+: <small>P.S. plz remember to sign your comment with <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code>.</small>
 == Chord classification ==
+Some temperaments temper out commas that lead chords which otherwise come in otonal-utonal pairs to become neutralized, such as 7:8:9 and 9:10:11 in superpyth. In [[Chords of huygens]], the neutralized 8:9:10 and 11:14:18 chords are both classified as otonal, while in [[Chords of mohajira]], the neutralized 10:11:12 chord is classified as utonal. I believe this is based on the transversal, as the 8:9:10, 11:14:18, and 10:11:12 chords are generated as 1-9/8-5/4, 1-14/9-11/9, and 1-20/11-5/3 respectively. However, classifying these chords as otonal or utonal is misleading, so there should be a convention; perhaps ambitonal, or another term entirely.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 23:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
-Some temperaments temper out commas that lead chords which otherwise come in otonal-utonal pairs to become neutralized, such as 7:8:9 and 9:10:11 in superpyth. In [[Chords of huygens]], the neutralized 8:9:10 and 11:14:18 chords are both classified as otonal, while in [[Chords of mohajira]], the neutralized 10:11:12 chord is classified as utonal. I believe this is based on the transversal, as the 8:9:10, 11:14:18, and 10:11:12 chords are generated as 1-9/8-5/4, 1-14/9-11/9, and 1-20/11-5/3 respectively. However, classifying these chords as otonal or utonal is misleading, so there should be a convention; perhaps ambitonal, or another term entirely.--[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 23:17, 13 December 2025 (UTC)
+: These are actually plurichords that change their o/u-tonality on different interpretations. I would suggest marking them as both otonal/utonal, which is a meaningful distinction to make from ambitonal. Perhaps it's also good to explicitly mark their plurichord nature and the associated temperaments, if we can find a way to do so. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:40, 14 December 2025 (UTC)