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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 4 | 0 1 0 -2 | 0 0 2 3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 4 | 0 1 0 -2 | 0 0 2 3 }}
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~63/40
: Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~63/40


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: Angle (63/50, 21/20) = 97.743 degrees
: Angle (63/50, 21/20) = 97.743 degrees


[[Optimal tuning]] (POTE): ~3/2 = 703.6224, ~21/20 = 89.3227
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.6224{{c}}, ~21/20 = 89.3227{{c}}


[[Minimax tuning]]:
[[Minimax tuning]]:
* [[7-odd-limit]]
* [[7-odd-limit]]
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/6 1/3 1/2 -1/3 | 0 0 1 0 | 5/6 -2/3 1/2 2/3 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/6 1/3 1/2 -1/3 | 0 0 1 0 | 5/6 -2/3 1/2 2/3 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5.7/3
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5.7/3
* [[9-odd-limit]]
* [[9-odd-limit]]
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/8 1/2 3/8 -1/4 | 0 0 1 0 | 5/4 -1 3/4 1/2 }}
: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 5/8 1/2 3/8 -1/4 | 0 0 1 0 | 5/4 -1 3/4 1/2 }}
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5.9/7
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5.9/7


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 26, 27, 39d, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121, 174d, 215, 295d, 336d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 26, 27, 39d, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121, 174d, 215, 295d, 336d }}


[[Badness]]: 0.216 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.216 × 10<sup>-3</sup>


[[Projection pair]]s: 5 - 3969/800, 7 - 27783/4000 to 2.3.7/5
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>5 3969/800 7 27783/4000</code> to 2.3.7/5


{{Databox|[[Hobbit|Hobbit bases]]|
{{Databox|[[Hobbit|Hobbit bases]]|
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: Angle (11/7, 22/21) = 97.747 degrees
: Angle (11/7, 22/21) = 97.747 degrees


[[Optimal tuning]] (POTE): ~3/2 = 703.8837, ~21/20 = 87.8919
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.8837{{c}}, ~21/20 = 87.8919{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 15, 26, 27e, 41, 109e }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 15, 26, 27e, 41, 109e }}


[[Badness]]: 0.539 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.539 × 10<sup>-3</sup>


[[Projection pair]]s: 5 - 242/49, 7 - 21296/3087, 11 - 234256/21609 to 2.3.11/7
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>5 242/49 7 21296/3087 11 234256/21609</code> to 2.3.11/7


[[Associated temperament]]: [[octacot]]
[[Associated temperament]]: [[octacot]]
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 4 4 2 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -1 | 0 0 2 3 4 5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 4 4 2 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -1 | 0 0 2 3 4 5 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 701.8881, ~21/20 = 87.4143
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.8881{{c}}, ~21/20 = 87.4143{{c}}


Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 12f, 14cf, 15, 26, 29, 41 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 14cf, 15, 26, 29, 41 }}


== Octasand ==
== Octasand ==
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 4 -5 | 0 1 0 -2 7 | 0 0 2 3 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 1 4 -5 | 0 1 0 -2 7 | 0 0 2 3 -4 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] (POTE): ~3/2 = 703.5501, ~21/20 = 89.3956
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.5501{{c}}, ~21/20 = 89.3956{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 14c, 27e, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 14c, 27e, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121 }}
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 4 -5 0 | 0 1 0 -2 7 4 | 0 0 2 3 -4 -4 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 1 4 -5 0 | 0 1 0 -2 7 4 | 0 0 2 3 -4 -4 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~3/2 = 703.5688, ~21/20 = 89.4032
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.5688{{c}}, ~21/20 = 89.4032{{c}}


Optimal ET sequence: {{Optimal ET sequence| 12e, 14c, 27e, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 14c, 27e, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121 }}


[[Category:Temperament families]]
[[Category:Temperament families]]
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[[Category:Octagar family| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Octagar| ]] <!-- key article -->
[[Category:Rank 3]]
[[Category:Rank 3]]

Revision as of 10:48, 13 March 2026

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The octagar family of temperaments are rank-3 temperaments tempering out the octagar comma, 4000/3969. While most 7-limit planar temperaments exhibit a tendency towards tuning flat, many people seem to prefer a slight sharp tendency instead. Octagar provides this; for instance the 7-odd-limit minimax tuning has fifths and 7's 2.245 cents sharp, with just major thirds.

Linear temperaments that temper out the octagar comma can be found in octagar temperaments.

Octagar

This temperament is also known as octagari.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 4000/3969

Mapping[1 0 1 4], 0 1 0 -2], 0 0 2 3]]

Mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~63/40

Mapping to lattice: [0 -1 -2 -1], 0 -1 0 2]]

Lattice basis:

63/50 length = 0.8966, 21/20 length = 1.0605
Angle (63/50, 21/20) = 97.743 degrees

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.6224 ¢, ~21/20 = 89.3227 ¢

Minimax tuning:

[[1 0 0 0, [5/6 1/3 1/2 -1/3, [0 0 1 0, [5/6 -2/3 1/2 2/3]
unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5.7/3
[[1 0 0 0, [5/8 1/2 3/8 -1/4, [0 0 1 0, [5/4 -1 3/4 1/2]
unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5.9/7

Optimal ET sequence12, 26, 27, 39d, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121, 174d, 215, 295d, 336d

Badness (Smith): 0.216 × 10-3

Projection pairs: 5 3969/800 7 27783/4000 to 2.3.7/5

Hobbit bases

2.3.7/5 subgroup

  • 12: 50/49, 256000/250047
  • 15: 256000/250047, 1029/1000
  • 23: 12800000/12252303, 107163/102400

Nakika

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 100/99, 245/242

Mapping[1 0 1 4 4], 0 1 0 -2 -2], 0 0 2 3 4]]

Mapping to lattice: [0 1 2 1 2], 0 -1 0 2 2]]

Lattice basis:

11/7 length = 0.798, 22/21 length = 0.906
Angle (11/7, 22/21) = 97.747 degrees

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.8837 ¢, ~21/20 = 87.8919 ¢

Optimal ET sequence12, 15, 26, 27e, 41, 109e

Badness (Smith): 0.539 × 10-3

Projection pairs: 5 242/49 7 21296/3087 11 234256/21609 to 2.3.11/7

Associated temperament: octacot

Scales: nakika12

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 100/99, 105/104, 245/242

Mapping: [1 0 1 4 4 2], 0 1 0 -2 -2 -1], 0 0 2 3 4 5]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 701.8881 ¢, ~21/20 = 87.4143 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 12f, 14cf, 15, 26, 29, 41

Octasand

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 540/539, 2200/2187

Mapping[1 0 1 4 -5], 0 1 0 -2 7], 0 0 2 3 -4]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.5501 ¢, ~21/20 = 89.3956 ¢

Optimal ET sequence12e, 14c, 27e, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 540/539

Mapping: [1 0 1 4 -5 0], 0 1 0 -2 7 4], 0 0 2 3 -4 -4]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1200.0000 ¢, ~3/2 = 703.5688 ¢, ~21/20 = 89.4032 ¢

Optimal ET sequence: 12e, 14c, 27e, 41, 53, 80, 94, 121