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One may also note that in [[just intonation]], a stack of three 6/5's is flat of the classical minor seventh [[9/5]] by [[25/24]], and a stack of two 4/3's is the Pythagorean minor seventh [[16/9]], which is flat of 9/5 by [[81/80]]. Thus, it can be determined that porcupine equates the syntonic comma 81/80 with the 5-limit chromatic semitone [[25/24]], which simplifies the 5-limit to a rank-2 structure in a simple way distinct from temperaments that reduce it to a strong extension of [[pythagorean]] (such as [[meantone]] and [[schismic]]).

Porcupine can be thought of as a [[~~No-sevens_subgroup_temperaments#Porkypine~~|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called ''porkypine'') without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also [[11/10]] and [[12/11]] (equivalently, [[55/54]], [[100/99]], and [[121/120]] are tempered out), with the consequence that the [[11/9]] interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that [[27/20]], the 5-limit "acute fourth", is equivalent to [[11/8]] (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at −4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy.

Porcupine can be thought of as a [[2.3.5.11 subgroup|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called ''porkypine'') without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also [[11/10]] and [[12/11]] (equivalently, [[55/54]], [[100/99]], and [[121/120]] are tempered out), with the consequence that the [[11/9]] interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that [[27/20]], the 5-limit "acute fourth", is equivalent to [[11/8]] (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at −4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy.

It is also very easy to extend porcupine to prime 7, because the 16/9, found at +6 generators (tuned to about 960–990 cents), has already been flattened to merge it with (6/5)<sup>3</sup>, and therefore can be equated to [[7/4]]. This makes porcupine a weak extension of [[archy]], splitting its generator into three parts; its Pythagorean major third is mapped to [[9/7]], and its fifth is tuned sharp, ranging from around 705–720 cents, with the best tunings around 711–712 cents, which roughly splits the damage on 7/4 and 9/7.

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 One may also note that in [[just intonation]], a stack of three 6/5's is flat of the classical minor seventh [[9/5]] by [[25/24]], and a stack of two 4/3's is the Pythagorean minor seventh [[16/9]], which is flat of 9/5 by [[81/80]]. Thus, it can be determined that porcupine equates the syntonic comma 81/80 with the 5-limit chromatic semitone [[25/24]], which simplifies the 5-limit to a rank-2 structure in a simple way distinct from temperaments that reduce it to a strong extension of [[pythagorean]] (such as [[meantone]] and [[schismic]]).
-Porcupine can be thought of as a [[No-sevens_subgroup_temperaments#Porkypine|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called ''porkypine'') without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also [[11/10]] and [[12/11]] (equivalently, [[55/54]], [[100/99]], and [[121/120]] are tempered out), with the consequence that the [[11/9]] interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that [[27/20]], the 5-limit "acute fourth", is equivalent to [[11/8]] (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at −4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy.
+Porcupine can be thought of as a [[2.3.5.11 subgroup|2.3.5.11-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called ''porkypine'') without much additional damage compared to the 5-limit; the generator here represents not only 10/9, but also [[11/10]] and [[12/11]] (equivalently, [[55/54]], [[100/99]], and [[121/120]] are tempered out), with the consequence that the [[11/9]] interval, usually considered a neutral third, is in porcupine identical to the 6/5 minor third, due to the extreme flatness of 10/9. This also means that [[27/20]], the 5-limit "acute fourth", is equivalent to [[11/8]] (rather than becoming 4/3 as in meantone), found at −4 generators (tuned to about 540–560 cents). This is because as the syntonic comma has been expanded, sharpening a fourth by a comma now leads to a significantly sharp interval close to the 11th harmonic. Porcupine is one of the most efficient temperaments in the 2.3.5.11 subgroup at a certain standard of accuracy.
 It is also very easy to extend porcupine to prime 7, because the 16/9, found at +6 generators (tuned to about 960–990 cents), has already been flattened to merge it with (6/5)<sup>3</sup>, and therefore can be equated to [[7/4]]. This makes porcupine a weak extension of [[archy]], splitting its generator into three parts; its Pythagorean major third is mapped to [[9/7]], and its fifth is tuned sharp, ranging from around 705–720 cents, with the best tunings around 711–712 cents, which roughly splits the damage on 7/4 and 9/7.