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Pythagorean tuning was not actually invented by [[Pythagoras of Samos|Pythagoras]]. The earliest records are from [[Mesopotamian music|Ancient Mesopotamia]], and it was later inherited by the [[Ancient Greek]]s.
Pythagorean tuning was not actually invented by [[Pythagoras of Samos|Pythagoras]]. The earliest records are from [[Mesopotamian music|Ancient Mesopotamia]], and it was later inherited by the [[Ancient Greek]]s.


The 12-tone form of Pythagorean tuning was (probably independently) invented in [[Chinese music|Ancient China]] between 600 BCE and 240 CE, where it was called '''shi'er lü'''.
The 12-tone form of Pythagorean tuning was (probably independently) invented in [[Chinese music|Ancient China]] between 600 BCE and 240 CE, where it was called '''shi'er lü'''.{{clear}}


== Relation to temperaments ==
== Relation to temperaments ==
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Mark Lindley<ref>Mark Lindley, ''Pythagorean Intonation and the Rise of the Triad'', Royal Musical Association Research Chronicle, 1980</ref> argues such a system was used in Europe during the 15th century, with keyboards tuned to nearly pure fifths as
Mark Lindley<ref>Mark Lindley, ''Pythagorean Intonation and the Rise of the Triad'', Royal Musical Association Research Chronicle, 1980</ref> argues such a system was used in Europe during the 15th century, with keyboards tuned to nearly pure fifths as


:{{dash|G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B}}.
: {{dash|G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B}}.


When respelled enharmonically, triads such as {{dash|D, F♯, A}} are close to 4:5:6 in this tuning.
When respelled enharmonically, triads such as {{dash|D, F♯, A}} are close to 4:5:6 in this tuning.
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== Scales ==
== Scales ==
Pythagorean tuning generates the following [[MOS]] scales:
Pythagorean tuning generates the following [[MOS]] scales:
* [[Pythagorean5]] – proper [[2L 3s]]. Also known as pythagorean pentic scale
* [[Pythagorean5]] – proper [[2L&nbsp;3s]]. Also known as pythagorean pentic scale
* [[Pythagorean7]] – improper [[5L 2s]]. Also known as pythagorean diatonic scale
* [[Pythagorean7]] – improper [[5L&nbsp;2s]]. Also known as pythagorean diatonic scale
* [[Pythagorean12]] – proper [[5L 7s]]. Also known as pythagorean chromatic scale
* [[Pythagorean12]] – proper [[5L&nbsp;7s]]. Also known as pythagorean chromatic scale
* [[Pythagorean17]] – improper [[12L 5s]]. Also known as pythagorean enharmonic scale
* [[Pythagorean17]] – improper [[12L&nbsp;5s]]. Also known as pythagorean enharmonic scale
* [[Pythagorean29]] – improper [[12L 17s]]
* [[Pythagorean29]] – improper [[12L&nbsp;17s]]
* [[Pythagorean41]] – proper [[12L 29s]]
* [[Pythagorean41]] – proper [[12L&nbsp;29s]]
* [[Pythagorean53]] – proper [[41L 12s]]
* [[Pythagorean53]] – proper [[41L&nbsp;12s]]


The [[hardness]]es of the Pythagorean scales are about 1.442 for pentic, 2.260 for diatonic, 1.260 for chromatic, and 3.846 for enharmonic.
The [[hardness]]es of the Pythagorean scales are about 1.442 for pentic, 2.260 for diatonic, 1.260 for chromatic, and 3.846 for enharmonic.


== Approaches ==
== Approaches ==
There are many possible approaches to Pythagorean tuning, and each approach is associated with a different Pythagorean equave. The two most widely-used are [[octave]]-based and [[tritave]]-based Pythagorean.
There are many possible approaches to Pythagorean tuning, and each approach is associated with a different Pythagorean equave. The two most widely-used are [[octave]]-based and [[tritave]]-based Pythagorean.


[[Octave]]-based Pythagorean tuning is essentially how it is used in the common-practice music of the West. This gives MOS sizes of 2, 3, 5 ([[2L 3s]] pentic), 7 ([[5L 2s]] diatonic), 12 ([[5L 7s]] chromatic), 17 ([[12L 5s]] enharmonic), 29, 41, and 53.
[[Octave]]-based Pythagorean tuning is essentially how it is used in the common-practice music of the West. This gives MOS sizes of 2, 3, 5 ([[2L&nbsp;3s]] pentic), 7 ([[5L&nbsp;2s]] diatonic), 12 ([[5L&nbsp;7s]] chromatic), 17 ([[12L&nbsp;5s]] enharmonic), 29, 41, and 53.


[[Tritave]]-based Pythagorean tuning is an approach described in [https://arxiv.org/abs/1709.00375 this paper] by M. Schmidmeier. This gives MOS sizes of 2, 3, 5, 8 (3L 5s), 11 (8L 3s), 19 (8L 11s), 27 (19L 8s), 46, and 65. The 11-note scale can be regarded as the diatonic-like scale of tritave-equivalent Pythagorean, and the 19-note scale can be regarded as its respective chromatic-like scale.
[[Tritave]]-based Pythagorean tuning is an approach described in [https://arxiv.org/abs/1709.00375 this paper] by M. Schmidmeier. This gives MOS sizes of 2, 3, 5, 8 (3L&nbsp;5s), 11 (8L&nbsp;3s), 19 (8L&nbsp;11s), 27 (19L&nbsp;8s), 46, and 65. The 11-note scale can be regarded as the diatonic-like scale of tritave-equivalent Pythagorean, and the 19-note scale can be regarded as its respective chromatic-like scale.


== Music ==
== Music ==