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Undecimal meantone maps the [[11/8]] to the double-augmented third (C–E𝄪), and tridecimal meantone maps the [[13/8]] to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note that the minor third conflates 13/11 with 6/5, and that 11/10~13/12 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a minor second.

Undecimal meantone<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_6048.html#6052 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''good 11-limit meantones'']</ref> a.k.a. huygens<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10437.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''The meantone family'']</ref><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10864.html#10870 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''names and definitions: meantone'']</ref> maps the [[11/8]] to the double-augmented third (C–E𝄪), and tridecimal meantone maps the [[13/8]] to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note that the minor third conflates 13/11 with 6/5, and that 11/10~13/12 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a minor second.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

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Meanpop maps the 11/8 to the double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫), and tridecimal meanpop still maps the 13/8 to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note also 11/10 is a double-diminished third; 12/11~13/12, double-augmented unison; and 14/13, minor second.

Meanpop<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003"/><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004"/> maps the 11/8 to the double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫), and tridecimal meanpop still maps the 13/8 to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note also 11/10 is a double-diminished third; 12/11~13/12, double-augmented unison; and 14/13, minor second.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

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However, while 12edo ends up near-optimal, the only valid [[diamond monotone]] tuning for sharptone is [[5edo]]. Anything flat of it has ~12/7 and ~7/4 in the wrong order (and so should be dominant) and anything sharp of it has ~5/4 and ~4/3 in the wrong order (and so should not be meantone).

The 11-limit extension was named by Gene Ward Smith in 2004<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004"/>.

[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7

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Badness (Sintel): 1.40

== References ==

[[Category:Temperament families]]

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 {{See also| Meantone vs meanpop }}
-Undecimal meantone maps the [[11/8]] to the double-augmented third (C–E𝄪), and tridecimal meantone maps the [[13/8]] to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note that the minor third conflates 13/11 with 6/5, and that 11/10~13/12 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a minor second.
+Undecimal meantone<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_6048.html#6052 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''good 11-limit meantones'']</ref> a.k.a. huygens<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10437.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''The meantone family'']</ref><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10864.html#10870 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''names and definitions: meantone'']</ref> maps the [[11/8]] to the double-augmented third (C–E𝄪), and tridecimal meantone maps the [[13/8]] to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note that the minor third conflates 13/11 with 6/5, and that 11/10~13/12 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a minor second.
 Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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 {{See also| Meantone vs meanpop }}
-Meanpop maps the 11/8 to the double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫), and tridecimal meanpop still maps the 13/8 to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note also 11/10 is a double-diminished third; 12/11~13/12, double-augmented unison; and 14/13, minor second.
+Meanpop<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003"/><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004"/> maps the 11/8 to the double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫), and tridecimal meanpop still maps the 13/8 to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note also 11/10 is a double-diminished third; 12/11~13/12, double-augmented unison; and 14/13, minor second.
 Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
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 However, while 12edo ends up near-optimal, the only valid [[diamond monotone]] tuning for sharptone is [[5edo]]. Anything flat of it has ~12/7 and ~7/4 in the wrong order (and so should be dominant) and anything sharp of it has ~5/4 and ~4/3 in the wrong order (and so should not be meantone).
+The 11-limit extension was named by Gene Ward Smith in 2004<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004"/>.
 [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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 Badness (Sintel): 1.40
+== References ==
+<references/>
 [[Category:Temperament families]]