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::: Okay, I see your point. I just got into exploring rank-2 temperaments (and tunings) back then. I thought that all "temperaments" on the list were actual temperaments, hence the title. So, I experimented with these, guilliable enough to believe that they were right, but at the time you were pointing out, that 1051edo wouldn't support Edson in an obvious way, I thought about changing my way in exploring rank-2 temperaments. Also I dropped the "temperament" thing, because the EP name was getting too long for me. I just changed the name of the Tibrepyt Temperament EP to "Tibrepyt". I will change the Bandcamp links, since they are now broken (nvm, they weren't mentioned). And the thing on Spotify is, that the EP is in review again. --[[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 09:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

:::: I'm trying to make sense of the tunings of your 5 tuning exploration EPs and I'd be very happy if you happen to remember or can check what were the MOS sizes and the main intervals you used in each EP, if you even thought of it this way. Specifically:

::::* In the gross temperament EP, did you have a large enough MOS to have the good 3/2 and 5/4 approximations (and perhaps even a major scale)?

::::* The tiberpyt generator looks really close to the 75edo fifth. Did you have more than 75 notes in your MOS sales or is it essentially a detuning of (a subscale of) 75edo? Which intervals except for the generator did you gravitate towards? (Pythagoean/schismic/75edo-like/other minor and major thirds, and similarly if you can identify approximations of higher limit intervals you used)

::::* In the helayo EP, does it make more sense to view the scale as a [[hemimeantone]] scale, with a heavy use of the major and minor thirds of -8 and 6 generators respectively and more complex even-generator-count intervals approximating 7- and possibly 11-limit ratios, and also possibly odd-generator-count harmonic intervals that can be interpreted as approximating higher limit ratios, does it make more sense viewing it as what is now called [[helayo]], with harmonic use of the generator as approximating 8/7, 7/6 or both, and with heavy use of the major and minor thirds of 11 and -13 generators respectively, or did you use some combination of the two e.g. using a -8-generator major third and a 1-generator 8/7 as in [[godzilla]], or both the -8 and 11 generator major thirds and what can be interpreted as several contradicting approximations of the 7th harmonic which looks more like a detuned 19-edo? Did you use a MOS with more than 19 notes?

::::* In the edson EP, did you avoid hinting at intervals that aren't in the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup or is the music more easily interpreted as using a more intuitive tuning such as [[andromeda]] or some tuning from the [[meantone family]]? Did you use more than 29 notes or is it essentially a detuning of 29edo?

::::* In the hemischis EP did you use more than 53 notes or is it essentially a detuning of 53- or 24-edo? Did you use [[hemischis|hemischis's]] 7-limit intervals or other ones of the 11, 13 and 17 limit and the schismic major third, or did you essentially use some other schismic or meantone temperament?

:::: Sorry for the disturbance and the hard and potentially disrespectful questions. I don't mean to insult or disrespect you, just to make sure that the temperaments listed at the EP titles indeed represent the music in them. Thanks! [[User:Roeesi|Roeesi]] ([[User talk:Roeesi|talk]]) 13:55, 23 February 2026 (UTC)

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 ::: Okay, I see your point. I just got into exploring rank-2 temperaments (and tunings) back then. I thought that all "temperaments" on the list were actual temperaments, hence the title. So, I experimented with these, guilliable enough to believe that they were right, but at the time you were pointing out, that 1051edo wouldn't support Edson in an obvious way, I thought about changing my way in exploring rank-2 temperaments. Also I dropped the "temperament" thing, because the EP name was getting too long for me. I just changed the name of the Tibrepyt Temperament EP to "Tibrepyt". I will change the Bandcamp links, since they are now broken (nvm, they weren't mentioned). And the thing on Spotify is, that the EP is in review again. --[[User:Francium|Francium]] ([[User talk:Francium|talk]]) 09:31, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
+:::: I'm trying to make sense of the tunings of your 5 tuning exploration EPs and I'd be very happy if you happen to remember or can check what were the MOS sizes and the main intervals you used in each EP, if you even thought of it this way. Specifically:
+::::* In the gross temperament EP, did you have a large enough MOS to have the good 3/2 and 5/4 approximations (and perhaps even a major scale)?
+::::* The tiberpyt generator looks really close to the 75edo fifth. Did you have more than 75 notes in your MOS sales or is it essentially a detuning of (a subscale of) 75edo? Which intervals except for the generator did you gravitate towards? (Pythagoean/schismic/75edo-like/other minor and major thirds, and similarly if you can identify approximations of higher limit intervals you used)
+::::* In the helayo EP, does it make more sense to view the scale as a [[hemimeantone]] scale, with a heavy use of the major and minor thirds of -8 and 6 generators respectively and more complex even-generator-count intervals approximating 7- and possibly 11-limit ratios, and also possibly odd-generator-count harmonic intervals that can be interpreted as approximating higher limit ratios, does it make more sense viewing it as what is now called [[helayo]], with harmonic use of the generator as approximating 8/7, 7/6 or both, and with heavy use of the major and minor thirds of 11 and -13 generators respectively, or did you use some combination of the two e.g. using a -8-generator major third and a 1-generator 8/7 as in [[godzilla]], or both the -8 and 11 generator major thirds and what can be interpreted as several contradicting approximations of the 7th harmonic which looks more like a detuned 19-edo? Did you use a MOS with more than 19 notes?
+::::* In the edson EP, did you avoid hinting at intervals that aren't in the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup or is the music more easily interpreted as using a more intuitive tuning such as [[andromeda]] or some tuning from the [[meantone family]]? Did you use more than 29 notes or is it essentially a detuning of 29edo?
+::::* In the hemischis EP did you use more than 53 notes or is it essentially a detuning of 53- or 24-edo? Did you use [[hemischis|hemischis's]] 7-limit intervals or other ones of the 11, 13 and 17 limit and the schismic major third, or did you essentially use some other schismic or meantone temperament?
+:::: Sorry for the disturbance and the hard and potentially disrespectful questions. I don't mean to insult or disrespect you, just to make sure that the temperaments listed at the EP titles indeed represent the music in them. Thanks! [[User:Roeesi|Roeesi]] ([[User talk:Roeesi|talk]]) 13:55, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
 == Note about pulling comma bases from the temperament finder ==