Talk:Schismatic family

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Move to "Schismic family"

-ismatic is non-standard for temperaments -- VectorGraphics (talk) 07:18, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

It's schismic that's non-standard. – Sintel🎏 (talk) 18:45, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Schismic is systematic though, and much more common. We don't say "ragismatic" or "kleismatic". And for the family of temperaments (which is only a modern xen concept derived from the historical concept of schismatic temperament), it makes sense to use the systematic name. -- VectorGraphics (talk) 21:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

It's a Greek third declension noun. This pattern is pretty common: dogma - dogmatic, drama - dramatic, trauma - traumatic. I don't care what happens with neologisms like ragismic. "Much more common" no it's not. A quick look at some literature makes this pretty clear. – Sintel🎏 (talk) 13:16, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh, and how could I forget: chroma - chromatic! – Sintel🎏 (talk)

AFAIK neither is more correct than the other. E.g. Systematic & systemic both exist. FloraC (talk) 13:22, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

about Maqamschismic

assuming that this temperament is meant to explain how to tune Arabic Maqam, and according to the work of Erv Wilson's of analysing Jis Rast and Bayati and [1]this website, a neutral third in the Jins Rast might be 27/22 and tuned a comma lower than 5/4, gives us this temperament within 2.3.5.11 subgroup. i didn't know the point of omitting 7 in this temperament, i cannot prove it but it's obvious that Jins Hijaz finds 16/15~15/14 as a augmented unison, and 7/6 as a doubly diminished fourth. Combining both gives us the tempering property exactly identical as Cassandra. And i didn't know the point of 2.3.5.11.13 Maqamschimic too. -FilterNashi (talk) 13:14, 22 January 2026 (UTC)