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'''Superpyth''' is a [[regular temperament|temperament]] where [[~]][[3/2]] is a [[generator]], and the septimal comma ([[64/63]]) is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so that a stack of two perfect fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] gives a major whole tone that represents both [[9/8]] and [[8/7]] (likewise, two perfect fourths give a minor seventh that represents both [[7/4]] and [[16/9]], so intervals such as A–G and C–B♭ are harmonic sevenths). Since ~~3/2~~ is a ~~generator we~~ can ~~use~~ the same standard [[chain-of-fifths notation]] that is also used for [[meantone~~]] and [[12edo~~]], with the understanding that sharps are sharper than flats (for example, A♯ is sharper than B♭) just like in [[Pythagorean tuning]], in contrast to meantone where sharps are flatter than or equal to the corresponding flats. [[17edo|10\17]], [[22edo|13\22]], and [[27edo|16\27]] are typical tunings of the generator.

'''Superpyth''' is a [[regular temperament|temperament]] where [[~]][[3/2]] is a [[generator]], and the septimal comma ([[64/63]]) is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so that a stack of two perfect fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] gives a major whole tone that represents both [[9/8]] and [[8/7]] (likewise, two perfect fourths give a minor seventh that represents both [[7/4]] and [[16/9]], so intervals such as A–G and C–B♭ are harmonic sevenths). Since the generator is a perfect fifth, superpyth can be notated using the same standard [[chain-of-fifths notation]] that is also used for [[meantone]], with the understanding that sharps are sharper than flats (for example, A♯ is sharper than B♭) just like in [[Pythagorean tuning]], in contrast to meantone where sharps are flatter than or equal to the corresponding flats. [[17edo|10\17]], [[22edo|13\22]], and [[27edo|16\27]] are typical tunings of the generator.

Such a temperament without the [[5/1|5th harmonic]] is also called '''archy'''. If intervals of 5 are desired, 5th harmonic is mapped to +9 generators through tempering out [[245/243]], so C–D♯ is 5/4. So superpyth is the "opposite" of ~~septimal~~ meantone in several different ways: meantone (including [[12edo]]) has ~~3/2~~ tuned flat so that ~~the 5th~~ harmonic~~'s intervals~~ are simple ~~and the 7th harmonic's~~ intervals are complex, while superpyth has ~~3/2~~ tuned sharp so that ~~the 7th harmonic's~~ intervals are simple while ~~the 5th harmonic's~~ intervals are complex.

As a consequence of the fifth being tuned sharp, three fourths reach a subminor third that approximates 7/6 instead of 6/5, while four fifths reach a supermajor third that approximates 9/7.

Such a temperament without the [[5/1|5th harmonic]] is also called '''archy'''. If intervals of 5 are desired, the 5th harmonic is mapped to +9 generators through tempering out [[245/243]], so C–D♯ is 5/4. So superpyth is the "opposite" of meantone in several different ways: most notably, meantone (including [[12edo]]) has the fifth tuned flat so that intervals of harmonic 5 are simple while intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has the fift tuned sharp so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.

If intervals of 11 are desired, the canonical way is to map 11/8 to +16 generators, or a doubly augmented second (C–D𝄪), tempering out 100/99. Yet a simpler but reasonable way is to map it to −6 generators, or a diminished fifth (C–G♭), by tempering out 99/98. The latter is called '''supra''', or '''suprapyth'''. The two mappings unite on [[22edo]].

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-'''Superpyth''' is a [[regular temperament|temperament]] where [[~]][[3/2]] is a [[generator]], and the septimal comma ([[64/63]]) is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so that a stack of two perfect fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] gives a major whole tone that represents both [[9/8]] and [[8/7]] (likewise, two perfect fourths give a minor seventh that represents both [[7/4]] and [[16/9]], so intervals such as A–G and C–B♭ are harmonic sevenths). Since 3/2 is a generator we can use the same standard [[chain-of-fifths notation]] that is also used for [[meantone]] and [[12edo]], with the understanding that sharps are sharper than flats (for example, A♯ is sharper than B♭) just like in [[Pythagorean tuning]], in contrast to meantone where sharps are flatter than or equal to the corresponding flats. [[17edo|10\17]], [[22edo|13\22]], and [[27edo|16\27]] are typical tunings of the generator.
+'''Superpyth''' is a [[regular temperament|temperament]] where [[~]][[3/2]] is a [[generator]], and the septimal comma ([[64/63]]) is [[tempering out|tempered out]], so that a stack of two perfect fifths [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] gives a major whole tone that represents both [[9/8]] and [[8/7]] (likewise, two perfect fourths give a minor seventh that represents both [[7/4]] and [[16/9]], so intervals such as A–G and C–B♭ are harmonic sevenths). Since the generator is a perfect fifth, superpyth can be notated using the same standard [[chain-of-fifths notation]] that is also used for [[meantone]], with the understanding that sharps are sharper than flats (for example, A♯ is sharper than B♭) just like in [[Pythagorean tuning]], in contrast to meantone where sharps are flatter than or equal to the corresponding flats. [[17edo|10\17]], [[22edo|13\22]], and [[27edo|16\27]] are typical tunings of the generator.
-Such a temperament without the [[5/1|5th harmonic]] is also called '''archy'''. If intervals of 5 are desired, 5th harmonic is mapped to +9 generators through tempering out [[245/243]], so C–D♯ is 5/4. So superpyth is the "opposite" of septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone (including [[12edo]]) has 3/2 tuned flat so that the 5th harmonic's intervals are simple and the 7th harmonic's intervals are complex, while superpyth has 3/2 tuned sharp so that the 7th harmonic's intervals are simple while the 5th harmonic's intervals are complex.
+As a consequence of the fifth being tuned sharp, three fourths reach a subminor third that approximates 7/6 instead of 6/5, while four fifths reach a supermajor third that approximates 9/7.
+Such a temperament without the [[5/1|5th harmonic]] is also called '''archy'''. If intervals of 5 are desired, the 5th harmonic is mapped to +9 generators through tempering out [[245/243]], so C–D♯ is 5/4. So superpyth is the "opposite" of meantone in several different ways: most notably, meantone (including [[12edo]]) has the fifth tuned flat so that intervals of harmonic 5 are simple while intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has the fift tuned sharp so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.
 If intervals of 11 are desired, the canonical way is to map 11/8 to +16 generators, or a doubly augmented second (C–D𝄪), tempering out 100/99. Yet a simpler but reasonable way is to map it to −6 generators, or a diminished fifth (C–G♭), by tempering out 99/98. The latter is called '''supra''', or '''suprapyth'''. The two mappings unite on [[22edo]].