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A '''major triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[major]] third, and [[perfect]] fifth.
A '''major triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[major]] third, and [[perfect]] fifth.


In the 7-limit:
In the 3-limit:


* [[14:18:21]], a ''supermajor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third sharper than the 5-limit major.
* [[64:81:96]] is found on the I, IV, and V of the Pythagorean [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]].


In the 5-limit:
In the 5-limit:
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* [[4:5:6]] is found on the I ({{Frac|1|1}}), IV ({{Frac|4|3}}), and V ({{Frac|3|2}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale ([[Zarlino]]).
* [[4:5:6]] is found on the I ({{Frac|1|1}}), IV ({{Frac|4|3}}), and V ({{Frac|3|2}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale ([[Zarlino]]).


In the 3-limit:
In the 7-limit:


* [[64:81:96]] is found on the I, IV, and V of the Pythagorean [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]].
* [[14:18:21]], a ''supermajor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third sharper than the 5-limit major.


=== Simple minor triads ===
=== Simple minor triads ===
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A '''minor triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[minor]] third, and fifth.
A '''minor triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[minor]] third, and fifth.


In the [[7-limit]]:
In the [[3-limit]]:
* [[6:7:9]], a ''subminor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third flatter than the 5-limit minor.
* [[54:64:81]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}), iii ({{Frac|81|64}}), and vi ({{Frac|27|16}}) of the Pythagorean diatonic scale.


In the [[5-limit]]:
In the [[5-limit]]:
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* [[27:32:40]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale.
* [[27:32:40]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale.


In the [[3-limit]]:
In the [[7-limit]]:
* [[54:64:81]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}), iii ({{Frac|81|64}}), and vi ({{Frac|27|16}}) of the Pythagorean diatonic scale.
* [[6:7:9]], a ''subminor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third flatter than the 5-limit minor.


== SCL files ==
== SCL files ==

Revision as of 05:07, 30 November 2025

Major and minor triads refer to triads containing a fifth alongside a major and minor third respectively.

In tempered scales

In diatonic (5L 2s) scales, "major third" and "minor third" are precisely defined intervals corresponding to 81/64 and 32/27 in Pythagorean tuning, but generated by a tempered fifth.

  • In 12edo, major is 400 ¢ and minor is 300 ¢.
  • In 19edo, major is 379 ¢ and minor is 316 ¢.
  • In 22edo, major is 436 ¢ and minor is 273 ¢.
  • If we pretend that 16edo's fifth generates a diatonic scale, this places major at 300 ¢ and minor at 375 ¢, leading to the controversial "harmonic notation" of 16edo.
    • A more conventional interpretation labels the 300 ¢ third as "minor" and 375 ¢ as major, which is more sensible in terms of interval size and sound, despite technically not following Pythagorean notation.

In terms of latitude, these triads tend to range from ±5-25°, corresponding to simple classical or septimal intervals. More extreme than major and minor are tendo and arto, corresponding to interseptimal and tridecimal intervals, and ultimately suspended, corresponding to simple 3-limit intervals; less extreme than major and minor are neutral triads.

As interval regions, minor thirds and major thirds range from, at the widest, 240-340c and 360-460c, although people tend to restrict this further, such as to roughly 260-330c and 370-440c. And as an interval region, perfect fifths range from around 660 to 740 cents at the widest, often being restricted to 680-720 cents.

In just intonation

In just intonation, 4:5:6 and 10:12:15 are the canonical tunings for the major and minor triads. Major and minor triads may also be tuned to simple septimal intervals, for example, to 14:18:21 and 6:7:9. Further details lie below.

Simple major triads

English Wikipedia has an article on:

A major triad is a triad comprising a root, major third, and perfect fifth.

In the 3-limit:

In the 5-limit:

  • 4:5:6 is found on the I (11), IV (43), and V (32) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale (Zarlino).

In the 7-limit:

  • 14:18:21, a supermajor triad, is a 9-odd-limit chord that tunes the third sharper than the 5-limit major.

Simple minor triads

English Wikipedia has an article on:

A minor triad is a triad comprising a root, minor third, and fifth.

In the 3-limit:

  • 54:64:81 is found on the ii (98), iii (8164), and vi (2716) of the Pythagorean diatonic scale.

In the 5-limit:

  • 10:12:15 is found on the iii (54) and vi (53) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale (Zarlino), perhaps the most common 5-limit diatonic.
  • 27:32:40 is found on the ii (98) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale.

In the 7-limit:

  • 6:7:9, a subminor triad, is a 9-odd-limit chord that tunes the third flatter than the 5-limit minor.

SCL files

.SCL files for the classical major and minor triads are provided below:

! majortriad.scl
!
The major triad as a wakalix
! Fokblock([25/24, 16/15], [1, 0]) = Fokblock([25/24, 10/9], [2, 0]) = Fokblock([16/15, 10/9], [0, 1])
3
!
5/4
3/2
2/1
! minortriad.scl
!
The minor triad as a wakalix
! Fokblock([25/24, 16/15], [0, 0]) = Fokblock([25/24, 10/9], [1, 0]) = Fokblock([16/15, 10/9], [1, 0])
3
!
6/5
3/2
2/1