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A '''major triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[major]] third, and [[perfect]] fifth. | A '''major triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[major]] third, and [[perfect]] fifth. | ||
In the | In the 3-limit: | ||
* [[ | * [[64:81:96]] is found on the I, IV, and V of the Pythagorean [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]]. | ||
In the 5-limit: | In the 5-limit: | ||
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* [[4:5:6]] is found on the I ({{Frac|1|1}}), IV ({{Frac|4|3}}), and V ({{Frac|3|2}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale ([[Zarlino]]). | * [[4:5:6]] is found on the I ({{Frac|1|1}}), IV ({{Frac|4|3}}), and V ({{Frac|3|2}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale ([[Zarlino]]). | ||
In the | In the 7-limit: | ||
* [[ | * [[14:18:21]], a ''supermajor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third sharper than the 5-limit major. | ||
=== Simple minor triads === | === Simple minor triads === | ||
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A '''minor triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[minor]] third, and fifth. | A '''minor triad''' is a [[triad]] comprising a root, [[minor]] third, and fifth. | ||
In the [[ | In the [[3-limit]]: | ||
* [[ | * [[54:64:81]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}), iii ({{Frac|81|64}}), and vi ({{Frac|27|16}}) of the Pythagorean diatonic scale. | ||
In the [[5-limit]]: | In the [[5-limit]]: | ||
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* [[27:32:40]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale. | * [[27:32:40]] is found on the ii ({{Frac|9|8}}) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale. | ||
In the [[ | In the [[7-limit]]: | ||
* [[ | * [[6:7:9]], a ''subminor triad'', is a [[9-odd-limit]] chord that tunes the third flatter than the 5-limit minor. | ||
== SCL files == | == SCL files == | ||
Revision as of 05:07, 30 November 2025
Major and minor triads refer to triads containing a fifth alongside a major and minor third respectively.
In tempered scales
In diatonic (5L 2s) scales, "major third" and "minor third" are precisely defined intervals corresponding to 81/64 and 32/27 in Pythagorean tuning, but generated by a tempered fifth.
- In 12edo, major is 400 ¢ and minor is 300 ¢.
- In 19edo, major is 379 ¢ and minor is 316 ¢.
- In 22edo, major is 436 ¢ and minor is 273 ¢.
- If we pretend that 16edo's fifth generates a diatonic scale, this places major at 300 ¢ and minor at 375 ¢, leading to the controversial "harmonic notation" of 16edo.
- A more conventional interpretation labels the 300 ¢ third as "minor" and 375 ¢ as major, which is more sensible in terms of interval size and sound, despite technically not following Pythagorean notation.
In terms of latitude, these triads tend to range from ±5-25°, corresponding to simple classical or septimal intervals. More extreme than major and minor are tendo and arto, corresponding to interseptimal and tridecimal intervals, and ultimately suspended, corresponding to simple 3-limit intervals; less extreme than major and minor are neutral triads.
As interval regions, minor thirds and major thirds range from, at the widest, 240-340c and 360-460c, although people tend to restrict this further, such as to roughly 260-330c and 370-440c. And as an interval region, perfect fifths range from around 660 to 740 cents at the widest, often being restricted to 680-720 cents.
In just intonation
In just intonation, 4:5:6 and 10:12:15 are the canonical tunings for the major and minor triads. Major and minor triads may also be tuned to simple septimal intervals, for example, to 14:18:21 and 6:7:9. Further details lie below.
Simple major triads
A major triad is a triad comprising a root, major third, and perfect fifth.
In the 3-limit:
- 64:81:96 is found on the I, IV, and V of the Pythagorean diatonic scale.
In the 5-limit:
In the 7-limit:
- 14:18:21, a supermajor triad, is a 9-odd-limit chord that tunes the third sharper than the 5-limit major.
Simple minor triads
A minor triad is a triad comprising a root, minor third, and fifth.
In the 3-limit:
- 54:64:81 is found on the ii (9⁄8), iii (81⁄64), and vi (27⁄16) of the Pythagorean diatonic scale.
In the 5-limit:
- 10:12:15 is found on the iii (5⁄4) and vi (5⁄3) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale (Zarlino), perhaps the most common 5-limit diatonic.
- 27:32:40 is found on the ii (9⁄8) of Ptolemy's intense diatonic scale.
In the 7-limit:
- 6:7:9, a subminor triad, is a 9-odd-limit chord that tunes the third flatter than the 5-limit minor.
SCL files
.SCL files for the classical major and minor triads are provided below:
! majortriad.scl ! The major triad as a wakalix ! Fokblock([25/24, 16/15], [1, 0]) = Fokblock([25/24, 10/9], [2, 0]) = Fokblock([16/15, 10/9], [0, 1]) 3 ! 5/4 3/2 2/1
! minortriad.scl ! The minor triad as a wakalix ! Fokblock([25/24, 16/15], [0, 0]) = Fokblock([25/24, 10/9], [1, 0]) = Fokblock([16/15, 10/9], [1, 0]) 3 ! 6/5 3/2 2/1
