4th-octave temperaments: Difference between revisions

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[[4edo]] is much less used as a scale, rather as a chord. In the Western theory, one step of 4edo is usually known as a minor third and the stacking of them is the diminished seventh chord.
[[4edo]] is much less used as a scale, rather as a chord. In many [[5L 2s|diatonic-based]] [[interval region]] schemes, one step of 4edo is known as a minor third, and the stacking of them is the diminished seventh chord.


Usage of the [[6/5]] minor third as one step of 4edo by tempering out [[648/625]], and therefore using 4edo as a diminished seventh chord produced by stacking three minor thirds is one of the features of standard Western music theory, and is supported by [[12edo]]. See [[Dimipent family]] for a collection of such temperaments.
Usage of the [[6/5]] minor third as one step of 4edo by tempering out [[648/625]], and therefore using 4edo as a diminished seventh chord produced by stacking three minor thirds is one of the features of standard Western music theory, and is supported by [[12edo]]. See [[Dimipent family]] for a collection of such temperaments.


[[19/16]], the 19th harmonic octave-reduced, is much closer to quarter-octave than 6/5, and while it's not a microtemperament, a lot of equal divisions support it.
[[19/16]], the 19th harmonic octave-reduced, is much closer to quarter-octave than 6/5, and while it is not a microtemperament, a lot of equal divisions support it.


An interval closer to 1\4 is [[25/21]], with the associated comma being the dimcomp comma. See [[Dimcomp family]] for a collection of rank-3 temperaments tempering it out.  
An interval closer to 1\4 is [[25/21]], with the associated comma being the dimcomp comma. See [[Dimcomp family]] for a collection of rank-3 temperaments tempering it out.  
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 4 6 9 0 | 0 0 0 1 }}


{{Multival|legend=1|0 0 4 0 6 9}}
{{Multival|legend=1| 0 0 4 0 6 9 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~6/5 = 1\4, ~8/7 = 324.482
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~6/5 = 1\4, ~8/7 = 324.482
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Comma list: 1874161/1874048
Comma list: 1874161/1874048


Sval {{mapping|legend=1| 4 0 7 | 0 1 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 4 0 7 | 0 1 1 }}


: sval mapping generators: ~44/37 = 1\4, ~11
: sval mapping generators: ~44/37, ~11


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~11/8 = 551.326
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~44/37 = 1\4, ~11/8 = 551.326


[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|24, 28, 148, 296, 320, 592, 616, 764}}, ...
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|24, 28, 148, 296, 320, 592, 616, 764}}, ...


== Darian calendar ==
== Darian calendar ==
Darian calendar is described as 24 & 668 temperament and is named after a certain calendar layout by the same name. The generator is close to the [[36/35]] quartertone, although it is not always mapped to this interval from regular perspective, 5 of them make [[11/8]], 8 of them make [[3/2]], and 6 of them make [[32/19]].
Darian calendar is described as 24 & 668 temperament in the 2.3.11.19 [[subgroup]] and is named after a certain calendar layout by the same name. The generator is close to the [[36/35]] quartertone, and this allows an extension to the 2.3.35.11.19 subgroup. 5 of them make [[11/8]], 8 of them make [[3/2]], and 6 of them make [[32/19]].


=== 2.3.11.19 subgroup ===
=== 2.3.11.19 subgroup ===
The temperament is simplest in this subgroup, although there is a tradeoff of breaking up the simplicity of the 36/35 quartertone.
The temperament is simplest in this subgroup, although there is a tradeoff of breaking up the simplicity of the 36/35 quartertone.


Subgroup: 2.3.11.19
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.11.19


Sval {{mapping|legend=1| 4 5 13 18 | 0 8 5 -6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 4 5 13 18 | 0 8 5 -6 }}


: sval mapping generators: ~6291456/5285401 = 1\4, 25289/24576 = 50.257
: sval mapping generators: ~6291456/5285401, ~25289/24576


Optimal tuning (CTE): 25289/24576 = 50.257
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~6291456/5285401 = 1\4, ~25289/24576 = 50.257


[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|24, 596, 620, 644, 668, 692, 716}}, ...
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|24, 596, 620, 644, 668, 692, 716}}, ...


=== 2.36/35.3.11.19 subgroup ===
=== 2.3.35.11.19 subgroup ===
668edo does not map 36/35 consistently, with direct mapping being 27 steps and consistent mapping being 28 steps.
668edo does not map 36/35 consistently, with direct mapping being 27 steps and consistent mapping being 28 steps.


Subgroup: 2.36/35.3.11.19
Subgroup: 2.3.35.11.19


Sval {{mapping|legend=1| 4 0 5 13 18 | 0 1 8 5 -6 }}
Sval mapping: {{mapping| 4 0 5 13 18 | 0 1 8 5 -6 }}


: sval mapping generators: ~2240/1881 = 1\4, 36/35 = 50.288
: sval mapping generators: ~2240/1881, ~36/35


Optimal tuning (CTE): 36/35 = 50.288
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2240/1881 = 1\4, ~36/35 = 50.288


[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|24, 668[+36/35]}}, ...
[[Support]]ing [[ET]]s: {{EDOs|24, 668}}, ...
 
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