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[[Comma list]]: 896/891
[[Comma list]]: 896/891


[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 0 0 7 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 0 -4 }}, {{val| 0 0 0 1 1 }}]
[[Sval]] [[mapping]]: [{{val| 1 0 0 7 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -4 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 1 }}]


: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~7
: sval mapping generators: ~2, ~3, ~7
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=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
==== Subgroup extensions ====
==== Subgroup extensions ====
By tempering out 896/891, we have mapped 14/11 to the major third, suggesting a slightly sharp fifth. This makes the minor third very close to the flat-of-Pythagorean [[13/11]], and extending the temperament to include harmonic 13 this way implies we temper out [[352/351]]. In fact, 896/891 = (352/351)(364/363), so it is a very natural interpretation, giving rise to the 2.3.7.11.13 subgroup temperament shown below.  
By tempering out 896/891, we have mapped 14/11 to the major third, suggesting a slightly sharp fifth. This makes the minor third very close to the flat-of-Pythagorean [[13/11]], and extending the temperament to include harmonic 13 this way implies we temper out [[352/351]]. In fact, 896/891 = (352/351)([[364/363]]), so it is a very natural interpretation, giving rise to the 2.3.7.11.13 subgroup temperament shown below.  


==== Full 11-limit extensions ====
==== Full 11-limit extensions ====
The second comma in the comma list determines how we extend parapyth to include the harmonic 5.  
The second comma in the comma list determines how we extend parapyth to include the harmonic 5.  


Pele adds [[441/440]] and finds the harmonic 5 by equating the [[81/80|syntonic comma (81/80)]] with the [[64/63|septimal comma]]. Together with the slightly sharp fifth this extension makes for one of the most natural interpretations. Sensamagic adds [[245/243]] or [[385/384]], a traditional RTT favorite. Apollo adds [[100/99]] or [[225/224]], and is even simpler than sensamagic. Uni adds [[540/539]]. Melpomene adds [[56/55]] or [[81/80]]. Terrapyth adds 585640/583443, a complex entry that finds the harmonic 5 at the triple augmented unison (AAA1). These all have the same lattice structure as parapyth.  
Pele adds [[441/440]] and finds the harmonic 5 by equating the [[81/80|syntonic comma (81/80)]] with the [[64/63|septimal comma (64/63)]]. Together with the slightly sharp fifth this extension makes for one of the most natural interpretations. Sensamagic adds [[245/243]] or [[385/384]], a traditional RTT favorite. Apollo adds [[100/99]] or [[225/224]], and is even simpler than sensamagic. Uni adds [[540/539]]. Melpomene adds [[56/55]] or [[81/80]]. Terrapyth adds 585640/583443, a complex entry that finds the harmonic 5 at the triple augmented unison (AAA1). These all have the same lattice structure as parapyth.  


Julius aka varda adds [[176/175]], splitting the octave into two. Parahemif adds [[243/242]], splitting the perfect fifth into two. Kujuku adds 14700/14641, splitting the perfect twelfth into two. Tolerant adds 2200/2187, splitting the ~33/32 into two. Finally, canta adds 472392/471625, splitting the ~14/9 into three.  
Julius aka varda adds [[176/175]], splitting the octave into two. Parahemif adds [[243/242]], splitting the perfect fifth into two. Kujuku adds 14700/14641, splitting the perfect twelfth into two. Tolerant adds 2200/2187, splitting the ~33/32 into two. Finally, canta adds 472392/471625, splitting the ~14/9 into three.  
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* ''[[Melpomene]]'' → [[Didymus rank three family #Melpomene|Didymus rank-3 family]]
* ''[[Melpomene]]'' → [[Didymus rank three family #Melpomene|Didymus rank-3 family]]
* ''[[Apollo]]'' → [[Marvel family #Apollo|Marvel family]]
* ''[[Apollo]]'' → [[Marvel family #Apollo|Marvel family]]
* ''[[Julius]]'' or ''[[varda]]'' → [[Diaschismic rank three family #Julius aka varda|Diaschismic rank-3 family]]
* ''[[Parahemif]]'' → [[Rastmic rank three clan #Parahemif|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* [[Sensamagic]] → [[Sensamagic family #Undecimal sensamagic|Sensamagic family]]
* [[Sensamagic]] → [[Sensamagic family #Undecimal sensamagic|Sensamagic family]]
* ''[[Pele]]'' → [[Hemifamity family #Pele|Hemifamity family]]
* ''[[Pele]]'' → [[Hemifamity family #Pele|Hemifamity family]]
* ''[[Uni]]'' → [[Hemimage family #Uni|Hemimage family]]
* ''[[Uni]]'' → [[Hemimage family #Uni|Hemimage family]]
* ''[[Julius]]'' or ''[[varda]]'' → [[Diaschismic rank three family #Julius aka varda|Diaschismic rank-3 family]]
* ''[[Parahemif]]'' → [[Rastmic rank three clan #Parahemif|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
* ''[[Canta]]'' → [[Canou family #Canta|Canou family]]
* ''[[Canta]]'' → [[Canou family #Canta|Canou family]]


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Comma list: 352/351, 364/363
Comma list: 352/351, 364/363


Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 0 7 12 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 0 -4 -7 }}, {{val| 0 0 0 1 1 1 }}]
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 7 12 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -4 -7 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 1 1 }}]


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 703.8563, ~7/4 = 969.9074
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 703.8563, ~7/4 = 969.9074
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Comma list: 352/351, 364/363, 442/441
Comma list: 352/351, 364/363, 442/441


Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 0 7 12 -13 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 0 -4 -7 9 }}, {{val| 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 }}]
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 7 12 -13 }}, {{val| 0 1 0 -4 -7 9 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 1 1 1 }}]


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 704.0315, ~7/4 = 970.6051
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 704.0315, ~7/4 = 970.6051
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: mapping generators: ~2, ~121/70, ~5
: mapping generators: ~2, ~121/70, ~5


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~121/70 = 951.8367, ~5/4 = 386.4048
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[CTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~121/70 = 951.4956, ~5/4 = 386.7868


{{Val list|legend=1| 24, 29, 34d, 53d, 58, 87, 121, 145, 179e, 208, 266e }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 24, 29, 34d, 53d, 58, 87, 121, 145, 179e, 208, 266e }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -13 -6 -1 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 17 9 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 1 1 1 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -13 -6 -1 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 17 9 3 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 1 1 1 }}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~121/70 = 951.8367, ~5/4 = 386.4048
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~26/15 = 951.8367, ~5/4 = 386.4048


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 24, 29, 34d, 53d, 58, 87, 121, 179ef, 208, 266ef, 474beef }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 24, 29, 34d, 53d, 58, 87, 121, 179ef, 208, 266ef, 474beef }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -13 -6 -1 8 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 17 9 3 -2 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 1 1 1 -1 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 0 -13 -6 -1 8 }}, {{val| 0 2 0 17 9 3 -2 }}, {{val| 0 0 1 1 1 1 -1 }}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~121/70 = 951.8015, ~5/4 = 386.9912
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~26/15 = 951.8015, ~5/4 = 386.9912


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 24, 34d, 58, 87, 121, 179ef, 208g, 266efg }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 24, 34d, 58, 87, 121, 179ef, 208g, 266efg }}