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'''Porcusmine''' is a [[Maximum variety|max-variety-4]] or max-variety-3, [[generator-offset]] scale with step pattern 4L 3M 1s. It is equivalent to the [[porcupine]] ([[7L 1s]]) mos with 4 of the large steps made bigger and the other 3 made smaller, or to the smitonic ([[4L 3s]]) with an extra-small step added. Porcusmine is not chiral. [[19edo]] is the smallest edo to support a non-degenerate porcusmine.
'''Porcusmine''' is a [[generator-offset]] scale with step pattern 4L 3M 1s. It is equivalent to the [[porcupine]] ([[7L 1s]]) mos with 4 of the large steps made bigger and the other 3 made smaller, or to the smitonic ([[4L 3s]]) with an extra-small step added. It is not [[chiral]] and it has [[maximum variety]] 3 for certain tunings only (otherwise it has maximum variety 4 in general). [[19edo]] is the smallest edo to support a non-degenerate porcusmine.


Porcusmine can be tuned as a [[5-limit]] JI scale or a tempered version thereof, where L represents [[10/9]], M represents [[27/25]], and s represents [[25/24]].
Porcusmine can be tuned as a [[5-limit]] JI scale or a tempered version thereof, where L represents [[10/9]], M represents [[27/25]], and s represents [[25/24]].


"Porcusmine" is a name given by [[User:CellularAutomaton|cellularAutomaton]], who discovered it as a detempering of porcupine, although the scale has also been [[Kite_Guitar_Translations_by_Kite_Giedraitis#Couples_Therapy_.28Jacob_Barton.2C_microtonal.29|discussed]] by [[Kite Giedraitis]] and possibly others. The name is a portmanteau of "porcupine" and "smitonic", since its step sizes are intermediate between those of the 8-note porcupine and 7-note smitonic mosses.
"Porcusmine" is a name given by [[User:CellularAutomaton|cellularAutomaton]], who discovered it as a detempering of porcupine. The name is a portmanteau of "porcupine" and "smitonic", since its step sizes are intermediate between those of the 8-note porcupine and 7-note smitonic mosses. It was also later called the [[Pinetone #Pinetone diminished octatonic|Pinetone diminished octatonic]] when independently discovered by [[Lillian Hearne]]. Similar Porcupine[8] detemperings have also been [[Kite Guitar translations by Kite Giedraitis #Couples Therapy .28Jacob Barton.2C microtonal.29|discussed]] by [[Kite Giedraitis]] as well as by Lillian Hearne.


== Modes ==
== Modes ==
Porcusmine has 8 modes. Names are provided based on porcupine (tuning-neutral) and smitonic (for tunings where s is small), as well as a unique portmanteau name. When M and s are close, the scale approaches [[Diminished|diminshed]] ([[4L 4s]]), which has only two distinct modes and is therefore not useful for naming. The porcupine mode names refer to William Lynch's names, and the smitonic mode names refer to [[User:Ayceman|Alexandru Ianu]]'s names. Below are the modes arranged in cyclic order:
Porcusmine has 8 modes. Names are provided based on porcupine (tuning-neutral) and smitonic (for tunings where s is small), as well as a unique portmanteau name. When M and s are close, the scale approaches [[diminished (temperament)|diminshed]] ([[4L 4s]]), which has only two distinct modes and is therefore not useful for naming. The porcupine mode names refer to William Lynch's names, and the smitonic mode names refer to [[User:Ayceman|Alexandru Ianu]]'s names. Below are the modes arranged in cyclic order:
 
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
!Modes in cyclic order
! Modes in cyclic order
|-
|-
|LMLMLMLs
| LMLMLMLs
Porcusmine Octopus
Porcusmine Octopus


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Octzothic
Octzothic
|-
|-
|MLMLMLsL
| MLMLMLsL
Porcusmine Mantis
Porcusmine Mantis


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Mandagothic
Mandagothic
|-
|-
|LMLMLsLM
| LMLMLsLM
Porcusmine Dolphin
Porcusmine Dolphin


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Dolkhanic
Dolkhanic
|-
|-
|MLMLsLML
| MLMLsLML
Porcusmine Crab
Porcusmine Crab


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Crablexian
Crablexian
|-
|-
|LMLsLMLM
| LMLsLMLM
Porcusmine Tuna
Porcusmine Tuna


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Tunivecan
Tunivecan
|-
|-
|MLsLMLML
| MLsLMLML
Porcusmine Salmon
Porcusmine Salmon


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Salmenacan
Salmenacan
|-
|-
|LsLMLMLM
| LsLMLMLM
Porcusmine Starfish
Porcusmine Starfish


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Starevarine
Starevarine
|-
|-
|sLMLMLML
| sLMLMLML
Porcusmine Whale
Porcusmine Whale


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== Tunings ==
== Tunings ==
Porcusmine is MV3 when L+s=M+M, as reflected in the table below.
Porcusmine is MV3 when L+s=M+M, as reflected in the table below.
{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|+Porcusmine tunings
|+Porcusmine tunings
!Tuning
! Tuning
!L:M:s
! L:M:s
!Good JI approximations
! Good JI approximations
!Other notes
! Other notes
|-
| JI (5-limit AGS interpretation)
| 2.581:1.885:1
| just 3/2, 6/5, 5/4, 9/8, and 10/9
|
|-
|-
|JI (5-limit interpretation)
| 19edo
|2.581:1.885:1
| 3:2:1
|just 3/2, 6/5, 5/4, 9/8, and 10/9
| excellent pental thirds, fairly good 3-limit
|
| MV3
|-
|-
|19edo
| 23edo
|3:2:1
| 4:2:1
|excellent pental thirds, fairly good 3-limit
| excellent 6/5 and 9/8, fairly good 7/5
|MV3
|  
|-
|-
|23edo
| 26edo
|4:2:1
| 4:3:1
|excellent 6/5 and 9/8, fairly good 7/5
| excellent 10/9, 11/8, and 7/4; fairly good 5/4 and 3/2
|
|  
|-
|-
|26edo
| 27edo
|4:3:1
| 4:3:2
|excellent 10/9, 11/8, and 7/4; fairly good 5/4 and 3/2
| excellent 10/9, 7/6, 6/5, and 7/5; fairly good 9/7 and 3/2  
|
| MV3
|-
|-
|27edo
| 27edo
|4:3:2
| 5:2:1
|excellent 10/9, 7/6, 6/5, and 7/5; fairly good 9/7 and 3/2  
| excellent 5:6:7; fairly good 7/4, 11/9, and 3/2
|MV3
|  
|-
|-
|27edo
| 30edo
|5:2:1
| 5:3:1
|excellent 5:6:7; fairly good 7/4, 11/9, and 3/2
| excellent 15/14, 9/8, 6/5, and 9/7; fairly good 15/8, 7/4, and 11/8
|
| MV3
|-
|-
|30edo
| 31edo
|5:3:1
| 5:3:2
|excellent 15/14, 9/8, 6/5, and 9/7; fairly good 15/8, 7/4, and 11/8
| excellent 15/14 or 16/15, 7/6, 5/4, and 7/5; fairly good 6/5, 9/7, 3/2
|MV3
| meantone fifths
|-
|-
|31edo
| 31edo
|5:3:2
| 6:2:1
|excellent 15/14 or 16/15, 7/6, 5/4, and 7/5; fairly good 6/5, 9/7, 3/2
| excellent 7/4, 7/6, 11/9, 5/4, 7/5; fairly good 6/5, 3/2, and 11/8
|meantone fifths
| single meantone fifth
|-
|-
|31edo
| 33edo
|6:2:1
| 5:4:1
|excellent 7/4, 7/6, 11/9, 5/4, 7/5; fairly good 6/5, 3/2, and 11/8
| excellent 10/9; fairly good 11/6 and 11/8
|single meantone fifth
|  
|-
|-
|33edo
| 34edo
|5:4:1
| 5:4:2
|excellent 10/9; fairly good 11/6 and 11/8
| very close to 5-limit just tuning
|
| gentle fifths
|-
|-
|34edo
| 34edo
|5:4:2
| 6:3:1
|very close to 5-limit just tuning
| excellent 6/5; fairly good 9/8, 11/9, and 14/11
|gentle fifths
|  
|-
|-
|34edo
| 41edo
|6:3:1
| 6:5:2
|excellent 6/5; fairly good 9/8, 11/9, and 14/11
| excellent 3-limit; good 7-limit; fairly good 5-limit
|
|  
|}
|}
== 5-limit AGS interpretation ==
Porcusmine can be interpreted as a member of an [[AGS]] series AGS(9/5, 50/27), which is [[constant structure]] at 5, 6, 7, 8, 15, 23, 38, 61, and 99 notes. It is noteworthy for an AGS series to retain constant structure to this size.
In this AGS interpretation, Whothic is the "root mode" of Porcusmine. The 5-limit tuning of Whothic generated by AGS(9/5, 50/27) is:
1/1 25/24 125/108 5/4 25/18 3/2 5/3 9/5 2/1
In this tuning, the interval 25/18 occurs frequently, and the scale could be more consonant by tempering out [[126/125]] to equate this interval with 7/5.


[[Category:8-tone scales]]
[[Category:8-tone scales]]

Latest revision as of 12:17, 11 September 2025

Porcusmine is a generator-offset scale with step pattern 4L 3M 1s. It is equivalent to the porcupine (7L 1s) mos with 4 of the large steps made bigger and the other 3 made smaller, or to the smitonic (4L 3s) with an extra-small step added. It is not chiral and it has maximum variety 3 for certain tunings only (otherwise it has maximum variety 4 in general). 19edo is the smallest edo to support a non-degenerate porcusmine.

Porcusmine can be tuned as a 5-limit JI scale or a tempered version thereof, where L represents 10/9, M represents 27/25, and s represents 25/24.

"Porcusmine" is a name given by cellularAutomaton, who discovered it as a detempering of porcupine. The name is a portmanteau of "porcupine" and "smitonic", since its step sizes are intermediate between those of the 8-note porcupine and 7-note smitonic mosses. It was also later called the Pinetone diminished octatonic when independently discovered by Lillian Hearne. Similar Porcupine[8] detemperings have also been discussed by Kite Giedraitis as well as by Lillian Hearne.

Modes

Porcusmine has 8 modes. Names are provided based on porcupine (tuning-neutral) and smitonic (for tunings where s is small), as well as a unique portmanteau name. When M and s are close, the scale approaches diminshed (4L 4s), which has only two distinct modes and is therefore not useful for naming. The porcupine mode names refer to William Lynch's names, and the smitonic mode names refer to Alexandru Ianu's names. Below are the modes arranged in cyclic order:

Modes in cyclic order
LMLMLMLs

Porcusmine Octopus

Porcusmine Sothic Ascending

Octzothic

MLMLMLsL

Porcusmine Mantis

Porcusmine Dagothic

Mandagothic

LMLMLsLM

Porcusmine Dolphin

Porcusmine Lorkhanic

Dolkhanic

MLMLsLML

Porcusmine Crab

Porcusmine Almalexian

Crablexian

LMLsLMLM

Porcusmine Tuna

Porcusmine Vivecan

Tunivecan

MLsLMLML

Porcusmine Salmon

Porcusmine Kagrenacan

Salmenacan

LsLMLMLM

Porcusmine Starfish

Porcusmine Nerevarine

Starevarine

sLMLMLML

Porcusmine Whale

Porcusmine Sothic Descending

Whothic

Tunings

Porcusmine is MV3 when L+s=M+M, as reflected in the table below.

Porcusmine tunings
Tuning L:M:s Good JI approximations Other notes
JI (5-limit AGS interpretation) 2.581:1.885:1 just 3/2, 6/5, 5/4, 9/8, and 10/9
19edo 3:2:1 excellent pental thirds, fairly good 3-limit MV3
23edo 4:2:1 excellent 6/5 and 9/8, fairly good 7/5
26edo 4:3:1 excellent 10/9, 11/8, and 7/4; fairly good 5/4 and 3/2
27edo 4:3:2 excellent 10/9, 7/6, 6/5, and 7/5; fairly good 9/7 and 3/2 MV3
27edo 5:2:1 excellent 5:6:7; fairly good 7/4, 11/9, and 3/2
30edo 5:3:1 excellent 15/14, 9/8, 6/5, and 9/7; fairly good 15/8, 7/4, and 11/8 MV3
31edo 5:3:2 excellent 15/14 or 16/15, 7/6, 5/4, and 7/5; fairly good 6/5, 9/7, 3/2 meantone fifths
31edo 6:2:1 excellent 7/4, 7/6, 11/9, 5/4, 7/5; fairly good 6/5, 3/2, and 11/8 single meantone fifth
33edo 5:4:1 excellent 10/9; fairly good 11/6 and 11/8
34edo 5:4:2 very close to 5-limit just tuning gentle fifths
34edo 6:3:1 excellent 6/5; fairly good 9/8, 11/9, and 14/11
41edo 6:5:2 excellent 3-limit; good 7-limit; fairly good 5-limit

5-limit AGS interpretation

Porcusmine can be interpreted as a member of an AGS series AGS(9/5, 50/27), which is constant structure at 5, 6, 7, 8, 15, 23, 38, 61, and 99 notes. It is noteworthy for an AGS series to retain constant structure to this size.

In this AGS interpretation, Whothic is the "root mode" of Porcusmine. The 5-limit tuning of Whothic generated by AGS(9/5, 50/27) is:

1/1 25/24 125/108 5/4 25/18 3/2 5/3 9/5 2/1

In this tuning, the interval 25/18 occurs frequently, and the scale could be more consonant by tempering out 126/125 to equate this interval with 7/5.