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The '''syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum''' is a continuum of temperaments which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the [[256/243|limma (256/243)]].
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The '''syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum''' is a [[equivalence continuum|continuum]] of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the [[256/243|Pythagorean limma (256/243)]]. This continuum is theoretically interesting in that these are all [[5-limit]] temperaments [[support]]ed by [[5edo]].  


All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ 256/243. Varying ''n'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''n'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''n'', the continuum describes the set of all [[5-limit]] temperaments supported by [[5edo]] due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them. The just value of ''n'' is 4.1952…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.  
All temperaments in the continuum satisfy {{nowrap|(81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ 256/243}}. Varying ''n'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''n'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''n'', the continuum describes the set of all 5-limit temperaments supported by 5edo due to it being the unique equal temperament that [[tempering out|tempers out]] both commas and thus tempers out all combinations of them. The just value of ''n'' is 4.1952…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.  


256/243 is the characteristic [[3-limit]] comma tempered out in [[5edo]]. In each case, we notice that ''n'' equals the order of harmonic 5 in the corresponding comma, and equals the number of generators to obtain a harmonic 3 in the MOS scale. However, if we let ''k'' = ''n'' + 1 (meaning ''n'' = ''k'' - 1) so that ''k'' = 0 means ''n'' = -1, ''k'' = 1 means ''n'' = 0, etc. then the continuum corresponds to (81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> = 16/15, which might be a preferred way of conceptualising it because:
256/243 is the characteristic [[3-limit]] comma tempered out in 5edo, and has many advantages as a target. In each case, ''n'' equals the order of [[5/1|harmonic 5]] in the corresponding comma, and equals the number of generators to obtain a harmonic 3 in the generator chain. For example:
* 16/15 is the classic diatonic semitone, notable in the 5-limit as the difference between 4/3 and 5/4, so this shifted continuum could also logically be termed the "syntonic-diatonic equivalence continuum". This means that at ''k'' = 0, 4/3 and 5/4 are mapped to the same interval while 81/80 becomes independent of 16/15 (meaning 81/80 may or may not be tempered) because the relation becomes (81/80)<sup>0</sup> ~ 1/1 ~ 16/15.
* Superpyth ({{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 1 }}) is generated by a fifth;
* ''k'' = 1 and upwards (up to a point) represent temperaments with (the potential for) reasonably good accuracy as equating at least one 81/80 with 16/15 seems like a good lower bound for a temperament intended to model JI. A good upper bound might be rodan (''k'' = 4), with the only exception being meantone (''n'' = ''k'' = (unsigned) infinity). (Temperaments corresponding to ''k'' = 0, -1, -2 are comparatively low-accuracy to the point of developing various intriguing structures and consequences.)
* Immunity ({{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 2 }}) splits its twelfth in two;
* 16/15 is the simplest ratio to be tempered in the continuum.  
* Rodan ({{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 3 }}) splits its fifth in three;
* Etc.
 
At {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 5 }}, the corresponding temperament splits the ''octave'' into five instead, as after a stack of five syntonic commas, both the orders of 3 and 5 are multiples of 5 again.
 
If we let {{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} ''n'' + 1 }} so that {{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} 0 }} means {{nowrap|''n'' {{=}} −1}}, {{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} 1 }} means {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 0 }}, etc. then the continuum corresponds to {{nowrap| (81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> {{=}} 16/15 }}. Some prefer this way of conceptualising it because:
* 16/15 is the classic diatonic semitone, notable in the 5-limit as the difference between 4/3 and 5/4, so this shifted continuum could also logically be termed the "syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum". This means that at {{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} 0 }}, 4/3 and 5/4 are mapped to the same interval while 81/80 becomes independent of 16/15 (meaning 81/80 may or may not be tempered out) because the relation becomes {{nowrap| (81/80)<sup>0</sup> ~ 1/1 ~ 16/15 }}.
* {{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} 1 }} and upwards (up to a point) represent temperaments with the potential for reasonably good accuracy as equating at least one 81/80 with 16/15 seems like a good lower bound for a temperament intended to model JI. A good upper bound might be rodan ({{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} 4 }}), with the only exception being meantone ({{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} ''k'' {{=}} ∞ }}). (Temperaments corresponding to {{nowrap| ''k'' {{=}} 0, −1, −2, … }} are comparatively low-accuracy to the point of developing various intriguing structures and consequences.)
* 16/15 is the simplest ratio to be tempered out in the continuum.  


{| class="wikitable center-1 center-2"
{| class="wikitable center-1 center-2"
|+ Temperaments in the continuum
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Temperaments with integer ''n''
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" | ''k'' = ''n'' + 1
! rowspan="2" | ''k''
! rowspan="2" | ''n'' = ''k'' − 1
! rowspan="2" | ''n''
! rowspan="2" | Temperament
! rowspan="2" | Temperament
! colspan="2" | Comma
! colspan="2" | Comma
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! Monzo
! Monzo
|-
|-
| -3
| −3
| -4
| −4
| [[Laquadgu]]
| Laquadgu (5 & 28)
| [[177147/160000]]
| [[177147/160000]]
| {{monzo| -8 11 -4 }}
| {{Monzo| -8 11 -4 }}
|-
|-
| -2
| −2
| -3
| −3
| [[Gamelismic clan #Gorgo|Laconic]]
| [[Laconic]]
| [[2187/2000]]
| [[2187/2000]]
| {{monzo| -4 7 -3 }}
| {{Monzo| -4 7 -3 }}
|-
|-
| -1
| −1
| -2
| −2
| [[Bug]]
| [[Bug]]
| [[27/25]]
| [[27/25]]
| {{monzo| 0 3 -2 }}
| {{Monzo| 0 3 -2 }}
|-
|-
| 0
| 0
| -1
| −1
| [[Father]]
| [[Father]]
| [[16/15]]
| [[16/15]]
| {{monzo| 4 -1 -1 }}
| {{Monzo| 4 -1 -1 }}
|-
|-
| 1
| 1
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| [[Blackwood]]
| [[Blackwood]]
| [[256/243]]
| [[256/243]]
| {{monzo| 8 -5 }}
| {{Monzo| 8 -5 }}
|-
|-
| 2
| 2
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| [[Superpyth]]
| [[Superpyth]]
| [[20480/19683]]
| [[20480/19683]]
| {{monzo| 12 -9 1 }}
| {{Monzo| 12 -9 1 }}
|-
|-
| 3
| 3
| 2
| 2
| [[Immunity family|Immunity]]
| [[Immunity]]
| [[1638400/1594323]]
| [[1638400/1594323]]
| {{monzo| 16 -13 2 }}
| {{Monzo| 16 -13 2 }}
|-
|-
| 4
| 4
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| [[Rodan]]
| [[Rodan]]
| [[131072000/129140163]]
| [[131072000/129140163]]
| {{monzo| 20 -17 3 }}
| {{Monzo| 20 -17 3 }}
|-
|-
| 5
| 5
| 4
| 4
| [[Vulture]]
| [[Vulture]]
| [[10485760000/10460353203]]
| [[10485760000/10460353203|(22 digits)]]
| {{monzo| 24 -21 4 }}
| {{Monzo| 24 -21 4 }}
|-
|-
| 6
| 6
| 5
| 5
| [[Pental family|Pental]]
| [[Quintile]]
|  
| (24 digits)
| {{monzo| -28 25 -5 }}
| {{Monzo| -28 25 -5 }}
|-
|-
| 7
| 7
| 6
| 6
| [[Hemiseven]]
| [[Hemiseven]]
|  
| (28 digits)
| {{monzo| -32 29 -6 }}
| {{Monzo| -32 29 -6 }}
|-
|-
| …
| …
| …
| …
| …
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| [[Meantone]]
| [[Meantone]]
| [[81/80]]
| [[81/80]]
| {{monzo| -4 4 -1 }}
| {{Monzo| -4 4 -1 }}
|}
|}


Examples of temperaments with fractional values of ''n'':
We may invert the continuum by setting ''m'' such that {{nowrap| 1/''m'' + 1/''n'' {{=}} 1 }}. This may be called the ''superpyth–diatonic equivalence continuum'', which is essentially the same thing. The just value of ''m'' is 1.3130…. The [[superpyth comma]] is both larger and more complex than the syntonic comma. As such, this continuum does not contain as many useful temperaments, but still interesting nonetheless.  
* [[University temperament|University]] (''n'' = -1.5)
* [[Uncle]] (''n'' = -0.5)
* [[Ultrapyth]] (''n'' = 0.5)
* 5 &amp; 56 (''n'' = 1.5)
* Counterpental (''n'' = 2.5)
* [[Septiquarter]] (''n'' = 3.5)
* 559 &amp; 2513 (''n'' = 4.2)
* 5 &amp; 118 (''n'' = 4.5)
* 5 &amp; 137 (''n'' = 5.5)


== Hemiseven ==
{| class="wikitable center-1"
{{See also| Gamelismic clan #Hemiseven }}
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Temperaments with integer ''m''
|-
! rowspan="2" | ''m''
! rowspan="2" | Temperament
! colspan="2" | Comma
|-
! Ratio
! Monzo
|-
| −1
| [[Ultrapyth]]
| [[5242880/4782969]]
| {{Monzo| 20 -14 1 }}
|-
| 0
| [[Blackwood]]
| [[256/243]]
| {{Monzo| 8 -5 }}
|-
| 1
| [[Meantone]]
| [[81/80]]
| {{Monzo| -4 4 -1 }}
|-
| 2
| [[Immunity]]
| [[1638400/1594323]]
| {{Monzo| 16 -13 2 }}
|-
| 3
| 5 & 56
| [[33554432000/31381059609]]
| {{Monzo| 28 -22 3 }}
|-
| …
| …
| …
| …
|-
| ∞
| [[Superpyth]]
| [[20480/19683]]
| {{Monzo| 12 -9 1 }}
|}


Subgroup: 2.3.5
{| class="wikitable"
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Temperaments with fractional ''n'' and ''m''
|-
! ''n'' !! ''m'' !! Temperament !! Comma
|-
| −3/2 = −1.5 || 3/5 = 0.6 || [[University]] || {{Monzo| 4 2 -3 }}
|-
| −1/2 = −0.5 || 1/3 = 0.{{overline|3}} || [[Uncle]] || {{Monzo| 12 -6 -1 }}
|-
| 1/3 = 0.{{overline|3}} || −1/2 = −0.5 || [[Dirt]] || {{Monzo| 28 -19 1 }}
|-
| 5/2 = 2.5 || 5/3 = 1.{{overline|6}} || [[Counterpental]] || {{Monzo| 36 -30 5 }}
|-
| 7/2 = 3.5 || 7/5 = 1.4 || [[Septiquarter]] || {{Monzo| 44 -38 7 }}
|-
| 21/5 = 4.2 || 21/16 = 1.3125 || 559 & 2513 || {{Monzo| -124 109 -21 }}
|-
| 13/3 = 4.{{overline|3}} || 13/10 = 1.3 || [[Tokko]] || {{Monzo| -76 67 -13 }}
|-
| 9/2 = 4.5 || 9/7 = 1.{{overline|285714}} || 5 & 118 || {{Monzo| -52 46 -9 }}
|-
| 11/2 = 5.5 || 11/9 = 1.{{overline|2}} || 5 & 137 || {{Monzo| -60 54 -11 }}
|}
 
== Superpyth (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Archytas clan #Superpyth]] and [[Jubilismic clan #Bipyth]].''
 
In the 5-limit, superpyth tempers out [[20480/19683]]. It has a fifth generator of {{nowrap| ~3/2 {{=}} ~710{{c}} }} and ~5/4 is found at +9 generator steps, as an augmented second (C–D#). It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 1 }}, meaning that the syntonic comma is equated with the diatonic semitone.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 20480/19683
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -12 | 0 1 9 }}


Comma list: {{monzo| 32 -29 6 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3


Mapping: [{{val| 1 4 14 }}, {{val| 0 -6 -29 }}]
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1197.6520{{c}}, ~3/2 = 708.6882{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -2.348 +4.385 -1.076 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 709.8213{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +7.866 +2.078 }}


Mapping generators: ~2, ~320/243
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 17, 22, 49, 120b, 169bbc }}


POTE generator: ~320/243 = 483.2474
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.17


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 62c, 67c, 72, 149, 221, 370, 591b, 961bb }}
== Uncle (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Trienstonic clan #Uncle]].''


Badness: 0.720465
The 5-limit version of uncle tempers out [[4096/3645]]. It is generated by a fifth that is supposedly sharper than [[5edo|3\5]], so it leads to an [[5L 3s|oneirotonic]] scale, or otherwise a [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale with negative small steps. The interval class of 5 is found at -6 fifths, as a major 2-step in oneirotonic, or a diminished fifth (C–Gb) in diatonic. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} -1/2 }} or {{nowrap| ''m'' {{=}} 1/3 }}.  


== Ultrapyth ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
{{See also| Archytas clan #Ultrapyth }}


Subgroup: 2.3.5
[[Comma list]]: 4096/3645


Comma list: 5242880/4782969
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 12 | 0 1 -6 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 -20 }}, {{val| 0 -1 -14 }}]
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3


Mapping generators: ~2, ~3
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1189.7544{{c}}, ~3/2 = 724.6670{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -10.246 +12.466 +4.210 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 731.7318{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +29.777 +23.296 }}


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 713.8287
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 13, 18, 23bc }}


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 27c, 32, 37, 79bc, 116bbc }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 6.33


Badness: 0.795243
== Ultrapyth (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Archytas clan #Ultrapyth]].''


== Trisatriyo (5 &amp; 56) ==
The 5-limit version of ultrapyth tempers out the [[ultrapyth comma]]. It is generated by a perfect fifth. The interval class of 5 is found at +14 fifths as a double-augmented unison (C–Cx). It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''m'' {{=}} -1 }} and {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 1/2 }}.  
Subgroup: 2.3.5


Comma list: {{monzo| 28 -22 3 }} = 33554432000/31381059609
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


Mapping: [{{val| 1 1 -2 }}, {{val| 0 3 22 }}]
[[Comma list]]: 5242880/4782969


Mapping generators: ~2, ~2560/2187
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -20 | 0 1 14 }}


POTE generator: ~2560/2187 = 235.8673
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 56, 61 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.4357{{c}}, ~3/2 = 711.7085{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.564 +6.189 -1.009 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.5968{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +11.642 +4.041 }}


Badness: 1.323443
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 27c, 32, 37, 79bc, 116bbc }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 18.7
 
== Dirt ==
{{Main| Dirt }}
 
Dirt tempers out the [[dirt comma]], 1342177280/1162261467. It is generated by a perfect fifth. The interval class of 5 is found at +19 fifths, as a double-augmented seventh (C–Bx). It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 1/3 }} and {{nowrap| ''m'' {{=}} -1/2 }}.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| 28 -19 1 }}
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -28 | 0 1 19 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1195.8566{{c}}, ~3/2 = 713.0611{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -4.143 +6.963 -0.863 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 715.3406{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +13.386 +5.157 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 42c, 47b, 52b, 109bbc }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 55.3
 
== Rodan (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Gamelismic clan #Rodan]].''
 
The 5-limit version of rodan tempers out the [[rodan comma]], which is the difference between a stack of three [[729/640|retroptolemaic whole tones (729/640)]] and a perfect fifth (3/2). The only 7-limit extension that makes any sense to use is to add the gamelisma to the comma list, whereby the generator represents [[8/7]]. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 3 }}.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 131072000/129140163
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 -1 | 0 3 17 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.5618{{c}}, ~729/640 = 234.4424{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.438 +0.934 -0.355 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~729/640 = 234.4999{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.545 +0.185 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 41, 46, 87, 220, 307 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.95
 
== Laconic ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Gamelismic clan #Gorgo]].''
 
Laconic tempers out [[2187/2000]], which is the difference between a stack of three [[10/9|ptolemaic whole tones (10/9)]]'s and a perfect fifth (3/2). Although a higher-error temperament, it does pop up enough in the low-numbered edos to be useful, most notably in [[16edo]] and [[21edo]]. The only 7-limit extension that makes any sense to use is to add the gamelisma to the comma list. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} -3 }}.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 2187/2000
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 1 | 0 3 7 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1203.1925{{c}}, ~10/9 = 228.0305{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +3.193 -14.671 +13.092 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~10/9 = 228.0128{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -17.917 +9.776 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 11c, 16, 21, 37b }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.80
 
== University ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Gamelismic clan #Gidorah]] and [[Mint temperaments #Penta]].''
 
Named by [[John Moriarty]], university is the {{nowrap| 5 & 6b }} temperament, and tempers out [[144/125]], the triptolemaic diminished third. It corresponds to {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} −3/2 }} and {{nowrap| ''m'' {{=}} 3/5 }}. In this temperament, two instances of [[6/5]] make a [[5/4]], and three make a [[3/2]]. Equating 6/5 with [[8/7]] (which makes sense since it is already very flat in the most accurate tunings of this temperament) leads to [[Gamelismic clan #Gidorah|gidorah]], and 6/5 with [[7/6]] leads to [[Mint temperaments #Penta|penta]].
 
University widens the classical major and minor chords to [[Extraclassical tonality|tendo and arto chords.]]
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 144/125
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 | 0 3 2 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1186.1969{{c}}, ~6/5 = 232.7334{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -13.803 -17.558 +51.547 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 231.4822{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -7.509 +76.651 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 1b, …, 4bc, 5 }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.39
 
=== Music ===
The purely 5-limit university mapping, using the 21cc [[val]], was in mind when writing this song.
 
; [[John Moriarty]]
* [https://soundcloud.com/john-lank1/uni ''Uni''] (2013) – University[6] in approximately 21edo
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== Trisatriyo (5 & 56) ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| 28 -22 3 }} (33554432000/31381059609)
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 -2 | 0 3 22 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~2, ~2560/2187
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~2560/2187 = 235.867{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 51, 56, 117b, 173b }}
 
[[Badness]] (Smith): 1.323443


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=5_56&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 56]
[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=5_56&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 56]
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== Hemiseven (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Gamelismic clan #Hemiseven]].''
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| 32 -29 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -2 -15 | 0 6 29 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~243/160
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.3725{{c}}, ~243/160 = 716.9750{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.373 -0.850 +0.376 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~243/160 = 716.7671{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.352 -0.067 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 72, 149, 221, 370, 591b }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 16.9


== Counterpental ==
== Counterpental ==
{{See also| Orwellismic temperaments #Pentorwell }}
: ''For extensions, see [[Orwellismic temperaments #Pentaorwell]].''
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


Subgroup: 2.3.5
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| 36 -30 5 }}


Comma list: {{monzo| 36 -30 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 5 0 -36 | 0 1 6 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 5 0 -36 }}, {{val| 0 1 6 }}]
: mapping generators: ~729/640, ~3


Mapping generators: ~729/640, ~3
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~729/640 = 239.8575{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.1540{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.712 +1.487 -0.535 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~729/640 = 240.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.4446{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +2.490 +0.354 }}


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 704.5722
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 75, 80, 155, 390b, 545bbc }}


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 75, 80 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 35.2


Badness: 1.500224
== Septiquarter (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Hemifamity temperaments #Septiquarter]].''


== Septiquarter ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
{{See also| Hemifamity temperaments #Septiquarter }}


Subgroup: 2.3.5
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| 44 -38 7 }}


Comma list: {{monzo| 44 -38 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -4 -28 | 0 7 38 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 3 10 }}, {{val| 0 -7 -38 }}]
: mapping generators: ~2, ~177147/102400


Mapping generators: ~2, ~204800/177147
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7741{{c}}, ~177147/102400 = 957.3630{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.226 +0.490 -0.194 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~177147/102400 = 957.5367{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.802 +0.082 }}


POTE generator: ~204800/177147 = 242.4567
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 94, 99, 193, 292, 391, 1074b, 1465bb }}


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 89c, 94, 99, 193, 292, 391 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 22.8


Badness: 0.971284
== Tokko (5-limit) ==
: ''For extensions, see [[Wizmic microtemperaments #Tokko]].''


== 559 &amp; 2513 ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
Subgroup: 2.3.5


Comma list: {{monzo| -124 109 -21 }}
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| -76 67 -13 }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 10 46 }}, {{val| 0 -21 -109 }}]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -1 -11 | 0 13 67 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~{{monzo| -35 31 -6 }}


Mapping generators: ~2, ~3355443200000/2541865828329
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.0377{{c}}, ~{{monzo| -35 31 -6 }} = 238.6084{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.038 -0.083 +0.035 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~{{monzo| -35 31 -6 }} = 238.6015{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.135 -0.011 }}


POTE generator: ~3355443200000/2541865828329 = 480.8595
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 166, 171, 860, 1031, 1202, 1373, 1544, 3259, 4803b, 6347b }}


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 267c, 272c, 277, 559, 1395, 1954, 2513, 40767, 43280, 45793, 48306, 50819, 53332, 55845, 58358, 60871, 63384, 65897, 68410, 70923, 73436, 75949, 78462 }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 20.9


Badness: 0.134523
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== Quinla-tritrigu (5 & 118) ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2513_559&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit 2513 & 559]
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| -52 46 -9 }}


== Quinla-tritrigu (5 &amp; 118) ==
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -2 -16 | 0 9 46 }}
Subgroup: 2.3.5
: mapping generators: ~2, ~320/243


Comma list: {{monzo| -52 46 -9 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~320/243 = 477.961{{c}}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 -2 -16 }}, {{val| 0 9 46 }}]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 108c, 113, 118, 1057, 1175, 1293, 1411, 1529, 1647, 1765, 1883, 2001b, 3884b }}


Mapping generators: ~2, ~320/243
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 14.5


POTE generator: ~320/243 = 477.9609
== Tribilalegu (5 & 137) ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 108c, 113, 118, 1057, 1175, 1293, 1411, 1529, 1647, 1765, 1883, 2001b, 3884b }}
[[Comma list]]: {{Monzo| -60 54 -11 }}


Badness: 0.617683
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -5 -30 | 0 11 54 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~243/160


== Tribilalegu (5 &amp; 137) ==
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
Subgroup: 2.3.5
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000{{c}}, ~243/160 = 718.258{{c}}


Comma list: {{Monzo| -60 54 -11 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 127c, 132, 137, 553, 690b, 827b, 964b }}


Mapping: [{{val| 1 6 24 }}, {{val| 0 -11 -54 }}]
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 84.9


Mapping generators: ~2, ~320/243
== 559 & 2513 ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


POTE generator: ~320/243 = 481.7421
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| -124 109 -21 }}


Vals: {{Val list| 5, 127c, 132, 137, 553, 690b, 827b, 964b }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -11 -63 | 0 21 109 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~{{monzo| -29 26 -5 }}


Badness: 3.620981
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~{{monzo| -29 26 -5 }} = 719.1405{{c}}


[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=5_137&limit=5 The temperament finder - 5-limit 5 & 137]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, …, 277, 559, 1395, 1954, 2513, 40767, 43280, 45793, 48306, 50819, 53332, 55845, 58358, 60871, 63384, 65897, 68410, 70923, 73436, 75949, 78462, 154411b }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.16
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