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''' | At its most basic level, '''squares''' can be thought of as a [[2.3.7 subgroup|2.3.7-subgroup]] temperament (sometimes called ''skwares''), generated by a flat [[~]][[9/7]] such that four of them stack to the perfect eleventh, [[8/3]], therefore [[tempering out]] the comma [[19683/19208]]. However, it is more natural to think of the temperament first as [[2.3.7.11 subgroup]], tempering out [[99/98]] so as to identify the generator with [[14/11]] in addition to 9/7 and so that two generators stack to the undecimal neutral sixth, [[18/11]], two of which are then identified with 8/3 due to tempering out [[243/242]]. This can also be thought of as an octavization of the 3.7.11-subgroup [[mintaka]] temperament by identifying [[2/1]] with a false octave corresponding to 99/49~243/121, in a manner similar to [[sensi]]'s relation to [[BPS]]. | ||
See [[Meantone family #Squares]] and [[ | However, since the fifth in skwares is tuned flat, it is very natural to combine the temperament with [[meantone]] to create full [[11-limit]] squares, which additionally can be restricted to the [[7-limit]] as the temperament with comma basis [[81/80]] and [[2401/2400]]. This 11-limit temperament is considered below. | ||
There is also a natural extension adding [[prime interval|prime]] [[23/1|23]] by equating the generator to [[23/18]], and so finding 23 itself seven generators down, tempering out [[162/161]]. | |||
As for prime [[13/1|13]], the way to map it is less clear. The canonical squares mapping tempers out [[144/143]] in order to equate the tridecimal neutral sixth, [[13/8]], with 18/11, finding 13 two generators up, while '''agora''' tempers out [[105/104]] to equate [[8/7]] with [[15/13]], finding the 13th harmonic 29 generators down. These two mappings are enharmonically equivalent in [[31edo]]. Finally, '''squad''' tempers out [[351/343]] (which is the same as 3.7.11.13 [[minalzidar]]'s tempering of that prime) so that 13 is equated with (7/3)<sup>3</sup>, and found 15 generators down. | |||
See [[Meantone family #Squares]] and [[No-fives subgroup temperaments #Skwares]] for more technical data. | |||
== Interval chain == | |||
In the following table, prime harmonics and subharmonics are labelled in '''bold'''. | |||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2" | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="3" | # | |||
! rowspan="3" | Cents* | |||
! colspan="4" | Approximate ratios | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | 11-limit | |||
! colspan="3" | 13-limit extensions | |||
|- | |||
! Squares | |||
! Squad | |||
! Agora | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0.0 | |||
| 1/1 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 425.6 | |||
| 9/7, 14/11 | |||
| | |||
| 13/10 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 851.2 | |||
| 18/11, 33/20, 44/27 | |||
| '''13/8''' | |||
| 21/13 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 76.8 | |||
| 21/20, 28/27 | |||
| | |||
| 27/26 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 502.4 | |||
| '''4/3''' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 928.0 | |||
| 12/7 | |||
| | |||
| 22/13, 26/15 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 153.6 | |||
| 11/10, 12/11 | |||
| 13/12 | |||
| 14/13 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 579.2 | |||
| 7/5 | |||
| | |||
| 18/13 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 1004.8 | |||
| 9/5, 16/9 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 230.4 | |||
| '''8/7''' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| 15/13 | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 656.0 | |||
| '''16/11''', 22/15 | |||
| 13/9 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 1081.6 | |||
| 28/15 | |||
| 13/7 | |||
| 24/13 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 307.2 | |||
| 6/5 | |||
| 13/11 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 732.8 | |||
| 32/21 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| 20/13 | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 1158.4 | |||
| 49/25, 64/33, 96/49 | |||
| 52/27 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 384.0 | |||
| 56/45 | |||
| 26/21 | |||
| '''16/13''' | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 809.6 | |||
| '''8/5''' | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| 21/13 | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 35.2 | |||
| 36/35, 64/63 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki />* In 11-limit CTE tuning | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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* [[Skwares11]] | * [[Skwares11]] | ||
* [[Skwares14]] | * [[Skwares14]] | ||
== Tunings == | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 7-limit prime-optimized tunings | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Euclidean | |||
|- | |||
! Constrained | |||
! Constrained & skewed | |||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |||
! Tenney | |||
| CTE: ~14/9 = 774.3052{{c}} | |||
| CWE: ~14/9 = 774.1560{{c}} | |||
| POTE: ~14/9 = 774.0585{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 11-limit prime-optimized tunings | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Euclidean | |||
|- | |||
! Constrained | |||
! Constrained & skewed | |||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |||
! Tenney | |||
| CTE: ~11/7 = 774.4005{{c}} | |||
| CWE: ~11/7 = 774.1754{{c}} | |||
| POTE: ~11/7 = 774.0427{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
== Music == | == Music == | ||
* [http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/tuning-survey/daily20100603-squares8piano.mp3 Square 8 | ; [[Joel Kivelä]] | ||
* ''Optimum Rains'' (2023) – [https://joelkivela.bandcamp.com/album/optimum-rains Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUJOVrLqtdk YouTube] | |||
; [[Chris Vaisvil]] | |||
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20201127015038/http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/tuning-survey/daily20100603-squares8piano.mp3 ''Square 8''] | |||
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