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The | The '''sycamore family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] tempers out the [[sycamore comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| -16 -6 11 }}, [[ratio]]: 48828125/47775744). | ||
Another possible tuning uses a generator which is a pure 3/2 divided into 11 parts, and this makes the generator chain of sycamore exactly the same as [[Carlos Beta]]. In fact, Carlos Beta is characterized by Carlos as taking five steps to reach 6/5 and six to reach 5/4, which means it tempers out the sycamore comma. It can be described as the generator chain of sycamore, or sycamore can be called Carlos Beta with octaves. | == Sycamore == | ||
The head of this family is [[5-limit]] sycamore. Its [[generator]] is a [[25/24|classic chromatic semitone]], and stacking six of these gives 5/4 (and hence five 6/5) and eleven give 3/2. [[94edo]] [[support]]s sycamore, and 5\94 is recommendable as a generator. It can be described as the 19 & 94 temperament, and uses a decidedly flat version of the chromatic semitone as a generator. [[Mos]] of 18 or 19 notes to the octave give enough room for sycamore's triads, but 37 notes can be tried by the adventurous. | |||
Another possible tuning uses a generator which is a near pure 3/2 at 702.162258 [[cent]]s divided into 11 parts, and this makes the generator chain of sycamore exactly the same as [[Carlos Beta]]. In fact, Carlos Beta is characterized by Carlos as taking five steps to reach 6/5 and six to reach 5/4, which means it tempers out the sycamore comma. It can be described as the generator chain of sycamore, or sycamore can be called Carlos Beta with octaves. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 48828125/47775744 | [[Comma list]]: 48828125/47775744 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 | 0 11 6 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~25/24 | |||
[[ | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6031{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.8108{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.603 +0.567 -2.242 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.8234{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.103 -3.373 }} | |||
{{ | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18, 19, 56, 75, 94, 207c, 301c }} | ||
[[Badness]]: | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.93 | ||
= | == Septimal sycamore == | ||
The second element of the [[ | The second element of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] for septimal sycamore is [[875/864]], the keema, and it also tempers out [[686/675]], the senga, and [[3136/3125]], hemimean. It may also be called the 19 & 56 temperament. This may also be used as the name for the temperament obtained by adding [[100/99]] to sycamore's commas, giving undecimal sycamore, where 10 generator steps reaches 16/11, 11 reach 3/2, and 15 give 7/4, adding a considerable dose of 11-limit harmonies to the 19-note mos. [[75edo]] is an excellent tuning for 7-limit sycamore, and [[56edo]] for the 11-limit version. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 686/675, 875/864 | [[Comma list]]: 686/675, 875/864 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 2 | 0 11 6 15 }} | |||
[[ | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.7208{{c}}, ~25/24 = 64.0334{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.721 +3.133 -0.672 -6.884 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 64.0496{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +2.591 -2.016 -8.082 }} | |||
{{ | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 18, 19, 56, 75d }} | ||
[[Badness]]: | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.57 | ||
=== 11-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 686/675 | Comma list: 100/99, 385/384, 686/675 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 4 | 0 11 6 15 -10 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4126{{c}}, ~25/24 = 64.2363{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 64.2505{{c}} | |||
{{ | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 18, 19, 37, 56 }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.85 | ||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
Comma list: 91/90, 100/99, 169/168, 385/384 | Comma list: 91/90, 100/99, 169/168, 385/384 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 2 4 3 | 0 11 6 15 -10 13 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.6597{{c}}, ~25/24 = 64.2778{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 64.2853{{c}} | |||
{{ | {{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 18, 19, 37, 56 }} | ||
Badness: | Badness (Sintel): 1.42 | ||
= Betic = | == Betic == | ||
Septimal sycamore sharpens the fifth from where it stands in the 5-limit, and lowers accuracy in order to reach 7-limit harmonies. If we retain tunings approximately (e.g. | Septimal sycamore sharpens the fifth from where it stands in the 5-limit, and lowers accuracy in order to reach 7-limit harmonies. If we retain tunings approximately (e.g. 94edo) or exactly those of Carlos Beta, we get the 19 & 94 temperament, betic, for the 7-limit. This adds [[225/224]] to the sycamore comma. The Carlos Beta tuning, with pure fifths, is a good tuning choice, but 94 or 113 equal are as well. Betic extends to the 11-limit upon addition of [[385/384]] or [[540/539]] to the list of commas, which means it supports both 7 and 11-limit marvel. | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 1071875/1062882 | [[Comma list]]: 225/224, 1071875/1062882 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 1 2 1 | 0 11 6 34 }} | |||
{{ | [[Optimal tuning]]s: | ||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6891{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.7773{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.689 +0.284 -2.272 +0.291 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.7683{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.504 -3.704 -0.703 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 19, 56d, 75, 94, 113, 320cc, 433ccd }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.77 | |||
=== 11-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 218750/216513 | Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 218750/216513 | ||
Mapping: | Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 1 5 | 0 11 6 34 -29 }} | ||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.4466{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.7993{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.7796{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 75, 94, 207c }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.88 | |||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 1875/1859 | |||
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 2 1 5 2 | 0 11 6 34 -29 32 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.3946{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.7867{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~25/24 = 63.7702{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 75, 94, 113, 207c }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.34 | |||
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