Talk:Kite Guitar Exercises and Techniques by Kite Giedraitis: Difference between revisions

← Older edit

VisualWikitext

@@ Line 26: / Line 26: @@
 Any thoughts on this "Study in Contraionian"? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
+: Sounds good! If you give me a score I could analyze it much faster. BTW I still really like "Folly of a Drunk" and want to translate it to 41-edo. Could you supply me with the midi file? That would allow me to try out different translations very easily. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 05:55, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
+: @Aura Sounds really good. I'm also interested in the score (and in understanding your treble-down tonality concept). --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 08:12, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
+:: Here's the score...
+:: [[File:Study in Contraionian (Score).pdf]]
+:: Unfortunately, it seems that most people can't hear Treble-Down Tonality, at least in it's most basic form.
+:: As for a MIDI File of "Folly of a Drunk", Kite, I'm not sure one exists, but I know enough about what the JI intervals are for the quartertones in Folly of a Drunk that I could help you manually translate it into 41edo. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:26, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
+:: Do be warned, Kite.  "Folly of a Drunk" utilizes a lot of 11-limit harmony, and even some 13-limit harmony as well.  It also utilizes 27/16 over 5/3 in a lot of cases as well- especially for the major sixth above the Tonic- which is important because as much as you don't like wolf fifths, they could potentially better capture or even enhance some of the song's intended quirky, drunken character compared to the original 24edo. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
+::: Oh I see, SIC is mostly minor triads, and the voicings are all upside down, with 3rds only in the bass, imitating the subharmonic series.
+::: Fm Cm Fm Bbm = rotation of C F C G
+::: Fm Cm Bbm Db Cm Fm Cm Bbm  = rotation of C F G Am F C F G
+::: But yeah, I didn't catch that just listening casually. Anything in 12edo with only diatonic major and minor triads inevitably sounds pretty normal. It might be interesting to do this with a famous song like Pachobel's canon. Or maybe have a B part of SIC that goes C F C G etc.
+::: I'm curious how you recorded FOAD if not with midi? --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 20:44, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
+:::: Hmm, writing a second Study in Contramajor might indeed show off more of what Treble-Down Tonality is capable of.  That said, it seems I must do something to reinforce that C is the actual tonic of C contramajor, despite it having a key signature identical to F Minor.  Perhaps I should even showcase how F minor actually differs from C contramajor in terms of chord progression behavior.
+:::: As for how I recorded "Folly of a Drunk", I simply entered the notes into the composition software itself using a desktop computer, tuned the notes and added the accidentals manually, and used the export function of the software to produce the audio. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 02:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
+::::: What software did you use for this, do you still have the composition file? --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 09:52, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
+:::::: I used MuseScore- and MuseScore 2, and MuseScore 3.  I do indeed have the composition files, and I say "composition files" because having worked on this song over the span of multiple iterations of MuseScore, there's a sense in which having multiple composition files is not a bad idea. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 13:55, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
+::::::: Okay, at least MuseScore 3 is able to export MIDI. In the main menu, you'll find: ''File'' →''Export...''. And in the Export dialog you can choose MIDI in the ''Export To'' drop down control. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 19:54, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
+:::::::: Bad news... I tried exporting the song "Folly of a Drunk" to MIDI only for the program to completely wipe the quartertones out of the resulting MIDI file.  How unfortunate...  Anyway, this means that using MIDI is not an option. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 23:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
+== What is this Tuning? ==
+Down major? Sounds absurd.
+On a unrelated note, I play mario kart. It's pronounced mAREio. [[User:MTEVE|MTEVE]] ([[User talk:MTEVE|talk]]) 04:23, 2 December 2023 (UTC)