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{{Infobox Interval

~~| Icon =~~

| Name = septimal minor semitone, septimal chromatic semitone, large septimal chroma

~~| Ratio = 21/20~~

~~| Monzo = -2 1 -1 1~~

~~| Cents = 84.4672~~

| Name = minor semitone, ~~ ~~large septimal chroma

| Color name = zg2, zogu 2nd

~~| FJS name = m275~~

| Sound = jid_21_20_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3

| Comma = yes

}}

'''21/20''' is a small semitone of about 85 cents. It may be found in [[7-limit]] [[just intonation]] as, for example, the difference between [[8/7]] and [[6/5]], or ~~between~~ [[5/3]] and [[7/4]].

'''21/20''' is a small semitone of about 85 cents. It may be found in [[7-limit]] [[just intonation]] as, for example, the difference between [[4/3]] and [[7/5]], [[8/7]] and [[6/5]], or [[5/3]] and [[7/4]].

~~Although~~ called a ''chroma'' for its proximity (and conflation in systems like septimal [[meantone]]) with the major chroma [[135/128]], ~~21/20~~ is a ''diatonic semitone'' in both [[~~Helmholtz-Ellis~~ notation]] and [[Functional Just System]] ~~because it is~~ [[5120/5103]] ~~smaller than~~ the ~~Pythagorean~~ minor ~~second~~ [[~~256~~/~~243~~]].

== Terminology ==

21/20 is traditionally called a ''chroma'', perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems like septimal [[meantone]]) with the major chroma [[135/128]]. However, it is a ''diatonic semitone'' in both [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] and [[Functional Just System]], viewed as the Pythagorean minor second [[256/243]] altered by [[5120/5103]]. [[Marc Sabat]] has taken to call it the ''minor diatonic semitone'' in the same material where [[15/14]] is also named as the major chromatic semitone<ref>Marc Sabat. [https://masa.plainsound.org/pdfs/crystal-growth.pdf ''Three Crystal Growth Algorithms in 23-limit constrained Harmonic Space'']. Plainsound Music Edition, 2008.</ref>.

== Interval chain ==

An [[interval chain]] of 21/20s stacked on top of one another comes close to approximating some important [[JI]] intervals. The error between the approximation and the target JI interval may be tempered out in some [[regular temperaments]].

Some examples include:

* A stack of two 21/20 upwards is ~4¢ from [[11/10]]

* A stack of seven 21/20 upwards is ~9¢ from [[7/5]]

* A stack of ten 21/20 upwards is ~4¢ from [[13/8]]

* A stack of twelve 21/20 upwards is ~4¢ from [[9/5]]

and

* A stack of six 21/20 downwards is ~10¢ from [[3/2]]

* A stack of nine 21/20 downwards is ~5¢ from [[9/7]]

* A stack of eleven 21/20 downwards is ~4¢ from [[7/6]]

When treated as a scale, this interval chain can be called the '''[[ambitonal sequence]] of 21/20''' ('''AS21/20''' or '''1ed21/20''').

1ed21/20 is equal to approximately 14.2067 EDO, and as a result of tethering between compressed 14 and heavily stretched 15 it is quite xenharmonic in its sound. It is related to the [[nautilus]], [[sextilifourths]] and [[floral]] temperaments.

1ed21/20 offers a possible approximation of the no-3s [[11-limit]]. It might alternatively be used as a [[dual-fifth tuning]].

== See also ==

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* [[Gallery of just intervals]]

* [[Septisemi temperaments]], where it is tempered out

* [[Wikipedia:Septimal chromatic semitone|Septimal chromatic semitone - Wikipedia]]

~~[[Category:7-limit]]~~

== References ==

~~[[Category:Interval]]~~

~~[[Category:Ratio]]~~

~~[[Category:Superparticular]]~~

[[Category:Second]]

[[Category:Semitone]]

[[Category:Chroma]]

[[Category:~~todo~~:~~expand~~]]

[[Category:Septisemi]]

[[Category:Commas named after their interval size]]

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 {{Infobox Interval
-| Icon =
+| Name = septimal minor semitone, septimal chromatic semitone, large septimal chroma
-| Ratio = 21/20
-| Monzo = -2 1 -1 1
-| Cents = 84.4672
-| Name = minor semitone, <br>large septimal chroma
 | Color name = zg2, zogu 2nd
-| FJS name = m2<sup>7</sup><sub>5</sub>
 | Sound = jid_21_20_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
+| Comma = yes
 }}
+{{Wikipedia|Septimal chromatic semitone}}
-'''21/20''' is a small semitone of about 85 cents. It may be found in [[7-limit]] [[just intonation]] as, for example, the difference between [[8/7]] and [[6/5]], or between [[5/3]] and [[7/4]].
+'''21/20''' is a small semitone of about 85 cents. It may be found in [[7-limit]] [[just intonation]] as, for example, the difference between [[4/3]] and [[7/5]], [[8/7]] and [[6/5]], or [[5/3]] and [[7/4]].
-Although called a ''chroma'' for its proximity (and conflation in systems like septimal [[meantone]]) with the major chroma [[135/128]], 21/20 is a ''diatonic semitone'' in both [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]] and [[Functional Just System]] because it is [[5120/5103]] smaller than the Pythagorean minor second [[256/243]].
+== Terminology ==
+/20 is traditionally called a ''chroma'', perhaps for its proximity (and conflation in systems like septimal [[meantone]]) with the major chroma [[135/128]]. However, it is a ''diatonic semitone'' in both [[Helmholtz–Ellis notation]] and [[Functional Just System]], viewed as the Pythagorean minor second [[256/243]] altered by [[5120/5103]]. [[Marc Sabat]] has taken to call it the ''minor diatonic semitone'' in the same material where [[15/14]] is also named as the major chromatic semitone<ref>Marc Sabat. [https://masa.plainsound.org/pdfs/crystal-growth.pdf ''Three Crystal Growth Algorithms in 23-limit constrained Harmonic Space'']. Plainsound Music Edition, 2008.</ref>.
+== Interval chain ==
+An [[interval chain]] of 21/20s stacked on top of one another comes close to approximating some important [[JI]] intervals. The error between the approximation and the target JI interval may be tempered out in some [[regular temperaments]].
+Some examples include:
+* A stack of two 21/20 upwards is ~4¢ from [[11/10]]
+* A stack of seven 21/20 upwards is ~9¢ from [[7/5]]
+* A stack of ten 21/20 upwards is ~4¢ from [[13/8]]
+* A stack of twelve 21/20 upwards is ~4¢ from [[9/5]]
+and
+* A stack of six 21/20 downwards is ~10¢ from [[3/2]]
+* A stack of nine 21/20 downwards is ~5¢ from [[9/7]]
+* A stack of eleven 21/20 downwards is ~4¢ from [[7/6]]
+When treated as a scale, this interval chain can be called the '''[[ambitonal sequence]] of 21/20''' ('''AS21/20''' or '''1ed21/20''').
+ed21/20 is equal to approximately 14.2067 EDO, and as a result of tethering between compressed 14 and heavily stretched 15 it is quite xenharmonic in its sound. It is related to the [[nautilus]], [[sextilifourths]] and [[floral]] temperaments.
+ed21/20 offers a possible approximation of the no-3s [[11-limit]]. It might alternatively be used as a [[dual-fifth tuning]].
+{{Harmonics in equal|1|21|20|intervals=prime}}
 == See also ==
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 * [[Gallery of just intervals]]
 * [[Septisemi temperaments]], where it is tempered out
-* [[Wikipedia:Septimal chromatic semitone|Septimal chromatic semitone - Wikipedia]]
-[[Category:7-limit]]
+== References ==
-[[Category:Interval]]
+<references/>
-[[Category:Ratio]]
-[[Category:Superparticular]]
 [[Category:Second]]
 [[Category:Semitone]]
+[[Category:Chroma]]
-[[Category:todo:expand]]
+[[Category:Septisemi]]
+[[Category:Commas named after their interval size]]
+{{todo|improve synopsis}}