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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">In [[11-limit]] [[Just Intonation]], 11/8 is an undecimal (11-based) [[superfourth]] of about 551.3¢. Falling about halfway between [[12edo]]'s [[perfect fourth]] and [[tritone]], it is very xenharmonic. It is the simplest superfourth in JI. As an octave-reduced overtone, it is a basis of consonance in 11-limit JI, alongside the lower odd numbers 9, 7, 5 and 3. It can be found in harmonic series chords such as 4:5:6:7:8:9:10:11:12, sitting somewhere between the much stronger and more familiar consonances of 10 (5) and 12 (3). It is very well-represented in [[24edo]], making that system especially good for approximations of JI chords involving primes 3 and 11 such as 8:9:11:12.
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See: [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]</pre></div>
In [[11-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''11/8''' is an '''undecimal [[superfourth|semiaugmented fourth]]''' of about 551.3{{cent}}. This interval is close (~3{{cent}}) to exactly between a [[4/3|perfect fourth]] and [[729/512|augmented fourth]], the latter of which is the ''augmented'' version of the [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] [[diatonic]] generator, therefore may be called the '''harmonic semiaugmented fourth'''.  
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;11_8&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;In &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20Intonation"&gt;Just Intonation&lt;/a&gt;, 11/8 is an undecimal (11-based) &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/superfourth"&gt;superfourth&lt;/a&gt; of about 551.3¢. Falling about halfway between &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;'s &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/perfect%20fourth"&gt;perfect fourth&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tritone"&gt;tritone&lt;/a&gt;, it is very xenharmonic. It is the simplest superfourth in JI. As an octave-reduced overtone, it is a basis of consonance in 11-limit JI, alongside the lower odd numbers 9, 7, 5 and 3. It can be found in harmonic series chords such as 4:5:6:7:8:9:10:11:12, sitting somewhere between the much stronger and more familiar consonances of 10 (5) and 12 (3). It is very well-represented in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/24edo"&gt;24edo&lt;/a&gt;, making that system especially good for approximations of JI chords involving primes 3 and 11 such as 8:9:11:12.&lt;br /&gt;
This interval is the simplest superfourth in JI, and as it falls about halfway between [[12edo]]'s [[perfect fourth]] and [[tritone]], it is very xenharmonic. As an octave-reduced harmonic, it is a basis of consonance in 11-limit JI, alongside the lower odd numbers 9, 7, 5 and 3. It can be found in harmonic series chords such as 4:5:6:7:8:9:10:11:12, sitting somewhere between the stronger and more familiar consonances of 10 (prime 5) and 12 (prime 3).
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See: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Gallery%20of%20Just%20Intervals"&gt;Gallery of Just Intervals&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
== Terminology ==
The naming pattern from [[11/9|undecimal neutral third]] and [[12/11|undecimal neutral second]] and their octave complements can be rigorously generalized and results in the somewhat unconventional '''harmonic/undecimal neutral fourth'''. This interval has also been termed the '''undecimal major fourth''' since the tempered version found in [[24edo]] was dubbed the "major fourth" by [[Ivan Wyschnegradsky]], although this may be confusing in diatonic contexts.
Because it is right between the diatonic fourth and tritone, it may also be called the '''(lesser) undecimal tritone'''.<ref>Kyle Gann (1998) [https://www.kylegann.com/Octave.html ''Anatomy of an Octave'']</ref>
More recently, [[Zhea Erose]] has suggested calling it something more simple: the '''harmonic fourth''' – under the idea that it is the simplest [[harmonic]] that is in the general (very) rough range of "fourths" when octave-reduced.
Furthermore, as stacks of this interval form a core axis of [[Alpharabian tuning]], it has also been dubbed the '''Axirabian paramajor fourth''' or more simply the '''just paramajor fourth'''.
 
== Potential usage ==
 
This interval is very well-represented in 24edo, making that system especially good for approximations of JI chords involving primes 3 and 11 such as 8:9:11:12. Not only that, but composers who have experience with 24edo may find it very useful not only as a fantastic addition to major chords, but also as an interesting chord root both for chord progressions within a key, and for modulations to key signatures that are not in the same chain of fifths.  Furthermore, these same useful functions can carry over to higher EDOs with good 11-limit representation such as [[159edo]].
 
In more tonal music, 11/8 relative to the tonic ends up being used as the chord root for what amounts to a voicing variation of a 1/1-9/8-225/176-3/2 chord, which, is preceded by a variation on a 1/1-5/4-3/2-225/128 chord built on [[16/15]] relative to the tonic (basically, a type of [[Wikipedia: Neapolitan chord|Neapolitan chord]]), and, followed up by a variation on the 1/1-5/4-3/2-16/9 dominant seventh chord (or potentially even a 1/1-5/4-3/2-16/9-16/15 dominant ninth chord) built on [[3/2]] relative to the tonic for a special type of half cadence.  This is a dramatic musical gesture that [[User:Aura|Aura]] has named the "simul half cadence".
 
== Approximations by EDOs ==
{{Interval edo approximation|11/8}}
<references group="note" />
 
== See also ==
 
* [[16/11]] – its [[octave complement]]
* [[12/11]] – its [[fifth complement]]
* [[Gallery of just intervals]]
 
== References ==
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[[Category:Fourth]]
[[Category:Superfourth]]
[[Category:Alpharabian]]