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181edo is the | == Theory == | ||
181edo is only [[consistent]] to the [[7-odd-limit]], though except for [[9/5]], [[23/20]] and their [[octave complement]]s, it is consistent to the [[23-odd-limit]]. Beyond that, it does well on [[prime interval|primes]] [[37/1|37]] and [[43/1|43]], and has unambiguous though not accurate approximations to [[29/1|29]], [[31/1|31]], and [[41/1|41]]. However, the composite harmonics [[25/1|25]], [[27/1|27]], [[35/1|35]], and [[39/1|39]] cause inconsistencies, with harmonic 25 itself being inconsistent. | |||
[[ | As an equal temperament, 181et [[tempering out|tempers out]] 2109375/2097152 ([[semicomma]]) and {{monzo| 14 -22 9 }} in the [[5-limit]]; [[2401/2400]], [[5120/5103]], and 390625/387072 in the [[7-limit]] ([[support]]ing the [[hemififths]] and the [[cotritone]]). Using the patent val, it tempers out [[385/384]], 1375/1372, [[2200/2187]], and [[4000/3993]] in the [[11-limit]]; and [[325/324]], [[352/351]], [[847/845]], and [[1575/1573]] in the [[13-limit]]. It tempers out [[375/374]], [[595/594]], and [[1275/1274]] in the [[17-limit]], [[400/399]] in the [[19-limit]], and [[300/299]] in the [[23-limit]]. | ||
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Because its harmonic [[5/1|5]] causes some inconsistencies, and is less accurate than the other harmonics, 181edo can reasonably be treated as a no-5 system, where it is [[purely consistent]]{{idio}} (meaning all harmonics have under 25% [[relative error]]) up to the 23-odd-limit. It tempers out {{Monzo|15 -13 2}} and {{Monzo|-31 -7 15}} in the [[2.3.7 subgroup]]; 26411/26244, [[43923/43904]], and [[131072/130977]] in the [[2.3.7.11 subgroup]]; and [[352/351]], 20449/20412, [[31213/31104]], and 53361/53248 in the 2.3.7.11.13 subgroup. It tempers out [[833/832]] and [[1089/1088]] in the no-5 17-limit, [[343/342]], [[1729/1728]], and [[2432/2431]] in the no-5 19-limit, and [[392/391]] in the no-5 23-limit. | |||
=== Prime harmonics === | |||
{{Harmonics in equal|181|columns=11}} | |||
{{Harmonics in equal|181|columns=11|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of prime harmonics in 181edo (continued)}} | |||
=== Subsets and supersets === | |||
181edo is the 42nd [[prime edo]]. | |||
== Intervals == | |||
{{Todo|complete table|inline=1}} | |||
{| class="wikitable center-1 right-2 mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|- | |||
! Steps | |||
! Cents | |||
! Approximate ratios* | |||
|- | |||
| 0 | |||
| 0 | |||
| [[1/1]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 6.63 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 2 | |||
| 13.26 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| 19.89 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 4 | |||
| 26.52 | |||
| [[64/63]], [[65/64]], [[66/65]] | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| 33.15 | |||
| [[49/48]], [[50/49]], [[52/51]] | |||
|- | |||
| 6 | |||
| 39.78 | |||
| [[45/44]], ''[[51/50]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| 46.41 | |||
| ''[[35/34]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 8 | |||
| 53.04 | |||
| [[33/32]], [[34/33]], ''[[36/35]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 9 | |||
| 59.67 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 10 | |||
| 66.3 | |||
| ''[[25/24]],'' [[27/26]] | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| 72.93 | |||
| [[24/23]], ''[[26/25]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 12 | |||
| 79.56 | |||
| [[22/21]], [[23/22]] | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| 86.19 | |||
| [[20/19]], [[21/20]] | |||
|- | |||
| 14 | |||
| 92.82 | |||
| [[19/18]] | |||
|- | |||
| 15 | |||
| 99.45 | |||
| [[18/17]] | |||
|- | |||
| 16 | |||
| 106.08 | |||
| [[17/16]] | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| 112.71 | |||
| [[16/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 18 | |||
| 119.34 | |||
| [[15/14]] | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| 125.97 | |||
| [[14/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 20 | |||
| 132.6 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 21 | |||
| 139.23 | |||
| [[13/12]], ''[[25/23]]'', ''[[27/25]]'' | |||
|- | |||
| 22 | |||
| 145.86 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| 152.49 | |||
| [[12/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 24 | |||
| 159.12 | |||
| [[23/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 25 | |||
| 165.75 | |||
| [[11/10]] | |||
|- | |||
| 26 | |||
| 172.38 | |||
| [[21/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 27 | |||
| 179.01 | |||
| ''[[10/9]],'' [[51/46]] | |||
|- | |||
| 28 | |||
| 185.64 | |||
| [[49/44]] | |||
|- | |||
| 29 | |||
| 192.27 | |||
| [[19/17]] | |||
|- | |||
| 30 | |||
| 198.9 | |||
| [[55/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 31 | |||
| 205.52 | |||
| [[9/8]] | |||
|- | |||
| 32 | |||
| 212.15 | |||
| [[26/23]] | |||
|- | |||
| 33 | |||
| 218.78 | |||
| [[17/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 34 | |||
| 225.41 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 35 | |||
| 232.04 | |||
| [[8/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 36 | |||
| 238.67 | |||
| [[39/34]] | |||
|- | |||
| 37 | |||
| 245.3 | |||
| [[15/13]], ''[[23/20]]'', [[38/33]] | |||
|- | |||
| 38 | |||
| 251.93 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 39 | |||
| 258.56 | |||
| [[65/56]] | |||
|- | |||
| 40 | |||
| 265.19 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 41 | |||
| 271.82 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 42 | |||
| 278.45 | |||
| [[27/23]] | |||
|- | |||
| 43 | |||
| 285.08 | |||
| [[33/28]], [[46/39]] | |||
|- | |||
| 44 | |||
| 291.71 | |||
| [[45/38]] | |||
|- | |||
| 45 | |||
| 298.34 | |||
| [[19/16]] | |||
|- | |||
| 46 | |||
| 304.97 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 47 | |||
| 311.6 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 48 | |||
| 318.23 | |||
| [[6/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 49 | |||
| 324.86 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 50 | |||
| 331.49 | |||
| [[23/19]], [[63/52]] | |||
|- | |||
| 51 | |||
| 338.12 | |||
| [[62/51]] | |||
|- | |||
| 52 | |||
| 344.75 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 53 | |||
| 351.38 | |||
| [[49/40]], [[60/49]] | |||
|- | |||
| 54 | |||
| 358.01 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 55 | |||
| 364.64 | |||
| [[21/17]] | |||
|- | |||
| 56 | |||
| 371.27 | |||
| [[57/46]] | |||
|- | |||
| 57 | |||
| 377.9 | |||
| [[56/45]] | |||
|- | |||
| 58 | |||
| 384.53 | |||
| [[5/4]] | |||
|- | |||
| 59 | |||
| 391.16 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 60 | |||
| 397.79 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 61 | |||
| 404.42 | |||
| [[24/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 62 | |||
| 411.05 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 63 | |||
| 417.68 | |||
| [[14/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 64 | |||
| 424.31 | |||
| [[23/18]] | |||
|- | |||
| 65 | |||
| 430.94 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 66 | |||
| 437.57 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 67 | |||
| 444.2 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 68 | |||
| 450.83 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 69 | |||
| 457.46 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 70 | |||
| 464.09 | |||
| [[17/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 71 | |||
| 470.72 | |||
| [[21/16]] | |||
|- | |||
| 72 | |||
| 477.35 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 73 | |||
| 483.98 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 74 | |||
| 490.61 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 75 | |||
| 497.24 | |||
| [[4/3]] | |||
|- | |||
| 76 | |||
| 503.87 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 77 | |||
| 510.5 | |||
| [[51/38]] | |||
|- | |||
| 78 | |||
| 517.13 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 79 | |||
| 523.76 | |||
| [[23/17]], [[65/48]] | |||
|- | |||
| 80 | |||
| 530.39 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 81 | |||
| 537.02 | |||
| [[15/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 82 | |||
| 543.65 | |||
| [[26/19]], [[63/46]] | |||
|- | |||
| 83 | |||
| 550.28 | |||
| [[11/8]] | |||
|- | |||
| 84 | |||
| 556.91 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 85 | |||
| 563.54 | |||
| [[18/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 86 | |||
| 570.17 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 87 | |||
| 576.8 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 88 | |||
| 583.43 | |||
| [[7/5]] | |||
|- | |||
| 89 | |||
| 590.06 | |||
| [[45/32]] | |||
|- | |||
| 90 | |||
| 596.69 | |||
| [[24/17]] | |||
|- | |||
| 91 | |||
| 603.31 | |||
| [[17/12]] | |||
|- | |||
| 92 | |||
| 609.94 | |||
| [[64/45]] | |||
|- | |||
| 93 | |||
| 616.57 | |||
| [[10/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 94 | |||
| 623.2 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 95 | |||
| 629.83 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 96 | |||
| 636.46 | |||
| [[13/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 97 | |||
| 643.09 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 98 | |||
| 649.72 | |||
| [[16/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 99 | |||
| 656.35 | |||
| [[19/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 100 | |||
| 662.98 | |||
| [[22/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 101 | |||
| 669.61 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 102 | |||
| 676.24 | |||
| [[34/23]], [[65/44]] | |||
|- | |||
| 103 | |||
| 682.87 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 104 | |||
| 689.5 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 105 | |||
| 696.13 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 106 | |||
| 702.76 | |||
| [[3/2]] | |||
|- | |||
| 107 | |||
| 709.39 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 108 | |||
| 716.02 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 109 | |||
| 722.65 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 110 | |||
| 729.28 | |||
| [[32/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 111 | |||
| 735.91 | |||
| [[26/17]] | |||
|- | |||
| 112 | |||
| 742.54 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 113 | |||
| 749.17 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 114 | |||
| 755.8 | |||
| [[65/42]] | |||
|- | |||
| 115 | |||
| 762.43 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 116 | |||
| 769.06 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 117 | |||
| 775.69 | |||
| [[36/23]] | |||
|- | |||
| 118 | |||
| 782.32 | |||
| [[11/7]] | |||
|- | |||
| 119 | |||
| 788.95 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 120 | |||
| 795.58 | |||
| [[19/12]] | |||
|- | |||
| 121 | |||
| 802.21 | |||
| [[62/39]] | |||
|- | |||
| 122 | |||
| 808.84 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 123 | |||
| 815.47 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 124 | |||
| 822.1 | |||
| [[45/28]] | |||
|- | |||
| 125 | |||
| 828.73 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 126 | |||
| 835.36 | |||
| [[34/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 127 | |||
| 841.99 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 128 | |||
| 848.62 | |||
| [[49/30]] | |||
|- | |||
| 129 | |||
| 855.25 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 130 | |||
| 861.88 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 131 | |||
| 868.51 | |||
| [[38/23]] | |||
|- | |||
| 132 | |||
| 875.14 | |||
| [[63/38]] | |||
|- | |||
| 133 | |||
| 881.77 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 134 | |||
| 888.4 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 135 | |||
| 895.03 | |||
| [[57/34]] | |||
|- | |||
| 136 | |||
| 901.66 | |||
| [[32/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 137 | |||
| 908.29 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 138 | |||
| 914.92 | |||
| [[39/23]], [[56/33]] | |||
|- | |||
| 139 | |||
| 921.55 | |||
| [[46/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 140 | |||
| 928.18 | |||
| [[65/38]] | |||
|- | |||
| 141 | |||
| 934.81 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 142 | |||
| 941.44 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 143 | |||
| 948.07 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 144 | |||
| 954.7 | |||
| [[33/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 145 | |||
| 961.33 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 146 | |||
| 967.96 | |||
| [[7/4]] | |||
|- | |||
| 147 | |||
| 974.59 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 148 | |||
| 981.22 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 149 | |||
| 987.85 | |||
| [[23/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 150 | |||
| 994.48 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 151 | |||
| 1001.1 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 152 | |||
| 1007.73 | |||
| [[34/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 153 | |||
| 1014.36 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 154 | |||
| 1020.99 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 155 | |||
| 1027.62 | |||
| [[38/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 156 | |||
| 1034.25 | |||
| [[20/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 157 | |||
| 1040.88 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 158 | |||
| 1047.51 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 159 | |||
| 1054.14 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 160 | |||
| 1060.77 | |||
| [[24/13]] | |||
|- | |||
| 161 | |||
| 1067.4 | |||
| [[63/34]] | |||
|- | |||
| 162 | |||
| 1074.03 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 163 | |||
| 1080.66 | |||
| [[28/15]] | |||
|- | |||
| 164 | |||
| 1087.29 | |||
| [[15/8]] | |||
|- | |||
| 165 | |||
| 1093.92 | |||
| [[32/17]] | |||
|- | |||
| 166 | |||
| 1100.55 | |||
| [[17/9]] | |||
|- | |||
| 167 | |||
| 1107.18 | |||
| [[36/19]] | |||
|- | |||
| 168 | |||
| 1113.81 | |||
| [[19/10]], [[40/21]] | |||
|- | |||
| 169 | |||
| 1120.44 | |||
| [[21/11]] | |||
|- | |||
| 170 | |||
| 1127.07 | |||
| [[23/12]] | |||
|- | |||
| 171 | |||
| 1133.7 | |||
| [[52/27]] | |||
|- | |||
| 172 | |||
| 1140.33 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 173 | |||
| 1146.96 | |||
| [[64/33]] | |||
|- | |||
| 174 | |||
| 1153.59 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 175 | |||
| 1160.22 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 176 | |||
| 1166.85 | |||
| [[51/26]] | |||
|- | |||
| 177 | |||
| 1173.48 | |||
| [[63/32]], [[65/33]] | |||
|- | |||
| 178 | |||
| 1180.11 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 179 | |||
| 1186.74 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 180 | |||
| 1193.37 | |||
| | |||
|- | |||
| 181 | |||
| 1200 | |||
| [[2/1]] | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki/>*As a 23-limit temperament | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | |||
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6" | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]] | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]] | |||
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]] | |||
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br>8ve stretch (¢) | |||
! colspan="2" | Tuning error | |||
|- | |||
! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢) | |||
! [[TE simple badness|Relative]] (%) | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3 | |||
| {{Monzo| 287 -181 }} | |||
| {{Mapping| 181 287 }} | |||
| −0.255 | |||
| 0.255 | |||
| 3.84 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5 | |||
| 2109375/2097152, {{monzo| 14 -22 9 }} | |||
| {{Mapping| 181 287 420 }} | |||
| +0.086 | |||
| 0.525 | |||
| 7.92 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5.7 | |||
| 2401/2400, 5120/5103, 390625/387072 | |||
| {{Mapping| 181 287 420 508 }} | |||
| +0.142 | |||
| 0.465 | |||
| 7.01 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
| 385/384, 1375/1372, 2200/2187, 4000/3993 | |||
| {{Mapping| 181 287 420 508 626 }} | |||
| +0.174 | |||
| 0.421 | |||
| 6.35 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
| 325/324, 352/351, 385/384, 1375/1372, 1575/1573 | |||
| {{Mapping| 181 287 420 508 626 670 }} | |||
| +0.079 | |||
| 0.439 | |||
| 6.62 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
| 325/324, 352/351, 375/374, 385/384, 595/594, 1275/1274 | |||
| {{Mapping| 181 287 420 508 626 670 740 }} | |||
| +0.028 | |||
| 0.425 | |||
| 6.40 | |||
|- | |||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
| 325/324, 352/351, 375/374, 385/384, 400/399, 595/594, 1275/1274 | |||
| {{Mapping| 181 287 420 508 626 670 740 769 }} | |||
| +0.000 | |||
| 0.404 | |||
| 6.09 | |||
|} | |||
=== Rank-2 temperaments === | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all left-5" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%;" | Table of rank-2 temperaments by generator | |||
|- | |||
! Periods<br>per 8ve | |||
! Generator* | |||
! Cents* | |||
! Associated<br>ratio* | |||
! Temperaments | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 18\181 | |||
| 119.34 | |||
| 15/14 | |||
| [[Septidiasemi]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 35\181 | |||
| 232.04 | |||
| 8/7 | |||
| [[Quadrawell]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 39\181 | |||
| 258.56 | |||
| {{Monzo| -32 13 5 }} | |||
| [[Lafa]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 41\181 | |||
| 271.82 | |||
| 75/64 | |||
| [[Orson]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 53\181 | |||
| 351.38 | |||
| 49/40 | |||
| [[Hemififths]] (7-limit) | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 78\181 | |||
| 517.13 | |||
| 66/49 | |||
| [[Cutefourths]] | |||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 88\181 | |||
| 583.43 | |||
| 7/5 | |||
| [[Cotritone]] (11-limit) | |||
|} | |||
<nowiki />* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | |||
== Music == | |||
; [[Francium]] | |||
* "Today Or Tomorrow?" from ''Questions'' (2024) – [https://open.spotify.com/track/24RikcnTP33a6v9vXyNPwh Spotify] | [https://francium223.bandcamp.com/track/today-or-tomorrow Bandcamp] | [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipUyBAHIvlk YouTube] – slurpee in 181edo tuning | |||
== See also == | |||
* [[181edo and stretched hemififths]] | |||
[[Category:Listen]] | |||