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The '''equal division of the fifth''' ('''EDF''' or '''ED3/2''') is a [[tuning]] obtained by dividing the [[3/2|perfect fifth (3/2)]] in a certain number of [[equal]] steps. | |||
Division of 3/2 into equal parts does not necessarily imply directly using this interval as an [[equivalence]]. Many, though not all, EDF scales have a perceptually important [[Pseudo-octave|false octave]], with various degrees of accuracy. | |||
Arguments for the utility of 3/2 as a base - whether an equivalence or just a [[period]] - are its being one of the strongest [[consonance]]s after the [[octave]], as well as its use to form structurally important [[pentachord]]s in many musical traditions past and present. | |||
Perhaps the first to divide the perfect fifth was [[Wendy Carlos]] ([http://www.wendycarlos.com/resources/pitch.html ''Three Asymmetric divisions of the octave'']). [[Carlo Serafini]] has also made much use of the alpha, beta and gamma scales. | |||
One way to approach some EDF tunings is the use of the 8:9:10:(12) chord as the fundamental complete sonority in a very similar way to the 4:5:6:(8) chord in meantone, and conversely one way to treat secundal chords (relative to scales where the large step is no larger than 253¢) as the one true type of triad is the use of 3/2 as the (formal) equivalence. Whereas in meantone it takes four 3/2 to get to 5/1, here it takes six 5/4 to get to 9/8 (tempering out the comma 15625/15552. So, doing this yields 9, 11, and 20 note MOS which the Carlos scales temper equally. While the notes are rather closer together, the scheme is uncannily similar to meantone. "Microdiatonic" might be a good term for it if it hasn't been named yet, but in any case here is an [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_HSMND6RnA example] of it. | |||
Alternatively, [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] has also suggeted the usage of [[Half-prime subgroup|half-prime]] (such as 3/2.5/2.7/2.11/2.…) subgroups for a JI/RTT-based interpretation of EDFs. But such a system, even for the simplest case of 3/2.5/2.7/2, would require very high odd-limit intervals if we want everything to fit within 3/2. The simplest chord in the 7/2-limit which fits inside 3/2 is already quite complex as 1-[[28/27]]-[[10/9]] (27:28:30) and that is a very dense tone cluster–to have a non-tone cluster it is required to go up to 1-[[10/9]]-[[7/5]] (45:50:63). However this approach has the advantage, or disadvantage depending on your compositional approach, of completely avoiding octaves similar to no-twos subgroups that are used for [[EDT]]s. | |||
=Individual pages for EDFs= | == Individual pages for EDFs == | ||
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| [[0edf|0]] | |||
| [[1edf|1]] | |||
| [[2edf|2]] | |||
| [[3edf|3]] | |||
| [[4edf|4]] | |||
| [[5edf|5]] | |||
| [[6edf|6]] | |||
| [[7edf|7]] | |||
| [[8edf|8]] | |||
| [[9edf|9]]/[[Carlos Alpha|α]] | |||
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| [[10edf|10]] | |||
| [[11edf|11]]/[[Carlos Beta|β]] | |||
| [[12edf|12]] | |||
| [[13edf|13]] | |||
| [[14edf|14]] | |||
| [[15edf|15]] | |||
| [[16edf|16]] | |||
| [[17edf|17]] | |||
| [[18edf|18]] | |||
| [[19edf|19]] | |||
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| [[20edf|20]]/[[Carlos Gamma|γ]] | |||
| [[21edf|21]] | |||
| [[22edf|22]] | |||
| [[23edf|23]] | |||
| [[24edf|24]] | |||
| [[25edf|25]] | |||
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| [[27edf|27]] | |||
| [[28edf|28]] | |||
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| [[34edf|34]] | |||
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| [[50edf|50]] | |||
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| [[55edf|55]] | |||
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| [[60edf|60]] | |||
| [[61edf|61]] | |||
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| [[66edf|66]] | |||
| [[67edf|67]] | |||
| [[68edf|68]] | |||
| [[69edf|69]] | |||
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| [[70edf|70]] | |||
| [[71edf|71]] | |||
| [[72edf|72]] | |||
| [[73edf|73]] | |||
| [[74edf|74]] | |||
| [[75edf|75]] | |||
| [[76edf|76]] | |||
| [[77edf|77]] | |||
| [[78edf|78]] | |||
| [[79edf|79]] | |||
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| [[89edf|89]] | |||
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| [[90edf|90]] | |||
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| [[97edf|97]] | |||
| [[98edf|98]] | |||
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== EDF-EDO correspondence == | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
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| | [[4edf]] | | | [[4edf]] | ||
| | [[7edo]] | | | [[7edo]] | ||
| | 4edf is 7edo with 28.5 cent stretched octaves.<br>Equivalently, 7edo is 4edf with 3/2s compressed by ~16 cents.<br>Patent vals match through the 5 limit. Only a rough correspondence. | | | 4edf is 7edo with 28.5 cent stretched octaves. <br>Equivalently, 7edo is 4edf with 3/2s compressed by ~16 cents. <br>Patent vals match through the 5 limit. Only a rough correspondence. | ||
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| | [[5edf]] | | | [[5edf]] | ||
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| | [[11edf]] | | | [[11edf]] | ||
| | [[19edo]] | | | [[19edo]] | ||
| | 11edf is 19edo with 12.5 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 7 limit.<br>If you don't think Carlos beta is accurately represented by 19edo then ignore this correspondence. | | | 11edf is 19edo with 12.5 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 7 limit. <br>If you don't think Carlos beta is accurately represented by 19edo then ignore this correspondence. | ||
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| | [[12edf]] | | | [[12edf]] | ||
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| | 12edf falls | | | The 4nedf~7nedo correspondence is already breaking down. 12edf falls halfway between 20 and 21 EDOs. It entirely misses 2/1, but nails the "double octave" 4/1, so it strongly resembles the scale with generator 2\41 of an octave. | ||
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| | [[13edf]] | | | [[13edf]] | ||
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| | [[16edf]] | | | [[16edf]] | ||
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| | | | | 16edf falls halfway between 27 and 28 EDOs. It entirely misses 2/1, and just barely does not miss the "double octave" 4/1. | ||
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| | [[17edf]] | | | [[17edf]] | ||
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| | [[19edf]] | | | [[19edf]] | ||
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| | 19edf falls | | | 19edf falls halfway between 32 and 33 EDOs. | ||
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| | [[20edf]] | | | [[20edf]] | ||
| | [[34edo]] | | | [[34edo]] | ||
| | Same 6.6 cent octave compression as 10edf~17edo. Patent vals match through the 5 limit, but not the 7 limit.<br>If you don't think Carlos gamma is accurately represented by 34edo then ignore this correspondence. | | | Same 6.6 cent octave compression as 10edf~17edo. Patent vals match through the 5 limit, but not the 7 limit. <br>If you don't think Carlos gamma is accurately represented by 34edo then ignore this correspondence. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | [[21edf]] | | | [[21edf]] | ||
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| | [[43edo]] | | | [[43edo]] | ||
| | 25edf is 43edo with 7.4 cent stretched octaves, but a rough correspondence. Patent vals differ in the 5 limit. | | | 25edf is 43edo with 7.4 cent stretched octaves, but a rough correspondence. Patent vals differ in the 5 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[26edf]] | |||
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|Perhaps surprisingly, this is not very similar to [[44edo]] or [[45edo]]. Patent vals differ in the 5 limit. | |||
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| | [[27edf]] | | | [[27edf]] | ||
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| | [[48edo]] | | | [[48edo]] | ||
| | Same 3.4 cent octave stretch as 7edf~12edo. Patent vals match through the 5 limit, but not the 7 limit. | | | Same 3.4 cent octave stretch as 7edf~12edo. Patent vals match through the 5 limit, but not the 7 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[29edf]] | |||
|[[50edo]] | |||
|29edf is 50edo with 10.27 cent stretched octaves. | |||
|- | |||
|[[30edf]] | |||
|[[51edo]] | |||
|Same 6.6 cent octave compression as 10edf~17edo. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | [[31edf]] | | | [[31edf]] | ||
| | [[53edo]] | | | [[53edo]] | ||
| | 31edf is 53edo with 0.12 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 61 limit. | | | 31edf is 53edo with 0.12 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 61 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[32edf]] | |||
|[[55edo]] | |||
|32edf is 55edo with 6.485 cent stretched octaves. | |||
|- | |||
|[[33edf]] | |||
|[[56edo]] | |||
|33edf is 56edo with 8.8 cent compressed octaves. | |||
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| | [[34edf]] | | | [[34edf]] | ||
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| | [[60edo]] | | | [[60edo]] | ||
| | Same 3.4 cent octave stretch as 7edf~12edo. Patent vals match through the 7 limit. | | | Same 3.4 cent octave stretch as 7edf~12edo. Patent vals match through the 7 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[36edf]] | |||
| | |||
|Perhaps surprisingly, this is halfway between [[31edo|61edo]] and [[62edo]]. | |||
|- | |||
|[[37edf]] | |||
|[[63edo]] | |||
|37edf is 63edo with 4.78 cent compressed octaves. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | [[38edf]] | | | [[38edf]] | ||
| | [[65edo]] | | | [[65edo]] | ||
| | 38edf is 65edo with 0.71 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 11 limit. | | | 38edf is 65edo with 0.71 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 11 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[39edf]] | |||
|[[67edo]] | |||
|Surprisingly, 39edf is actually 67edo with 5.92 cent stretched octaves | |||
|- | |||
|[[40edf]] | |||
|[[68edo]] | |||
|Same 6.6 cent octave compression as 10edf~17edo. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | [[41edf]] | | | [[41edf]] | ||
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| | [[72edo]] | | | [[72edo]] | ||
| | This is a rough correspondence, as the (7n)edf ~ (12n)edo sequence begins to break down. Patent vals match through the 7 limit. | | | This is a rough correspondence, as the (7n)edf ~ (12n)edo sequence begins to break down. Patent vals match through the 7 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[43edf]] | |||
|[[74edo]] | |||
|43edf is 74edo with 2.57 cent stretched octaves. In other words, it is an extended meantone with a just 3/2 | |||
|- | |||
|[[44edf]] | |||
|[[75edo]] | |||
|44edf is 75edo with 3.49 cent compressed octaves. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | [[45edf]] | | | [[45edf]] | ||
| | [[77edo]] | | | [[77edo]] | ||
| | 45edf is 77edo with 1.1 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 13 limit. | | | 45edf is 77edo with 1.1 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 13 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[46edf]] | |||
|[[79edo]] | |||
|46edf is 79edo with ~9.7 cent compressed octaves. Patent vals differ in the 7-limit. | |||
|- | |||
|[[47edf]] | |||
|[[80edo]] | |||
|47edf is 80edo with 5.18 cent compressed octaves. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | [[48edf]] | | | [[48edf]] | ||
| | [[82edo]] | | | [[82edo]] | ||
| | Same 0.83 cent octave compression as 24edf~41edo. Patent vals match through the 11 limit, with the exception of 5. | | | Same 0.83 cent octave compression as 24edf~41edo. Patent vals match through the 11 limit, with the exception of 5. | ||
|- | |||
|[[49edf]] | |||
|[[84edo]] | |||
|This is a rough correspondence, as the (7n)edf ~ (12n)edo sequence continues to break down. Patent vals match through the 3 limit. | |||
|- | |||
|[[50edf]] | |||
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|The (10n)edf ~ (17n)edo sequence has broken down completely, 50edf falls halfway between 85 and 86 edos. Technically, it may not entirely miss 2/1 (it falls within 7.4 cents on either side), but it nails the "double octave" 4/1, so it strongly resembles the scale with generator 2\171 of an octave. | |||
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| | [[51edf]] | | | [[51edf]] | ||
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| | [[89edo]] | | | [[89edo]] | ||
| | 52edf is 89edo with 1.4 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 13 limit, with the exception of 5. | | | 52edf is 89edo with 1.4 cent stretched octaves. Patent vals match through the 13 limit, with the exception of 5. | ||
|- | |||
|[[53edf]] | |||
|[[91edo]] | |||
|53edf is 91edo with 5.24 cent stretched octaves. | |||
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|[[54edf]] | |||
|[[92edo]] | |||
|Same 4.1 cent octave compression as 27edf~46edo. Patent vals also match through the same limit. | |||
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| | [[55edf]] | | | [[55edf]] | ||
| | [[94edo]] | | | [[94edo]] | ||
| | 55edf is 94edo with 0.3 cent compressed octaves. Patent vals match through the 47 limit. | | | 55edf is 94edo with 0.3 cent compressed octaves. Patent vals match through the 47 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[56edf]] | |||
|[[96edo]] | |||
|This is a rough correspondence, as the (7n)edf ~ (12n)edo sequence momentarily ceases to break down further. Patent vals match through the 3 limit. | |||
|- | |||
|[[57edf]] | |||
|[[97edo]] | |||
|57edo is 97edo with 4.455 cent copmressed octave. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | [[58edf]] | | | [[58edf]] | ||
| | [[99edo]] | | | [[99edo]] | ||
| | 58edf is 99edo with 1.8 cent compressed octaves. Patent vals match through the 7 limit. | | | 58edf is 99edo with 1.8 cent compressed octaves. Patent vals match through the 7 limit. | ||
|- | |||
|[[59edf]] | |||
|[[101edo]] | |||
|59edf is 101edo with 1.495 cent stretched octaves. | |||
|- | |||
|[[60edf]] | |||
|[[103edo]] | |||
|60edf is 103edo with 5.02 cent stretched octaves. | |||
|- | |||
|[[61edf]] | |||
|[[104edo]] | |||
|61edf is 104edo with 3.22 cent compressed octaves. | |||
|} | |} | ||
[[Category:Edf| ]] <!-- main article --> | == See also == | ||
[[Category: | * [[Relative errors of small EDFs]] | ||
[[Category: | * [[Ed9/4]] | ||
[[Category:Edf| ]] | |||
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