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=== Overview to extensions ===
=== Overview to extensions ===
The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. [[#Garibaldi|Garibaldi]] adds [[garischisma|{{monzo| 25 -14 0 -1 }}]], [[#Grackle|grackle]] adds {{monzo| -44 26 0 1 }}, [[#Pontiac|pontiac]] adds {{monzo| -59 39 0 -1 }}, and [[#Schism|schism]] adds [[64/63|{{monzo| 6 -2 0 -1 }}]]. Those all have a fifth as generator.  
The second comma of the [[normal forms #Normal forms for commas|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. [[#Garibaldi|Garibaldi]] adds [[septischisma|{{monzo| 25 -14 0 -1 }}]], [[#Grackle|grackle]] adds {{monzo| -44 26 0 1 }}, [[#Pontiac|pontiac]] adds {{monzo| -59 39 0 -1 }}, and [[#Schism|schism]] adds [[64/63|{{monzo| 6 -2 0 -1 }}]]. Those all have a fifth as generator.  


[[#Bischismic|Bischismic]] adds {{monzo| -69 40 0 2 }} and has a fifth generator with a half-octave period. [[#Salsa|Salsa]] adds [[parahemif comma|{{monzo| 15 -13 0 2 }}]] and has a hemififth generator. [[#Hemischis|Hemischis]] adds {{monzo| -34 25 0 -2 }} and has a hemitwelfth generator. [[Gamelismic clan #Guiron|Guiron]] adds [[1029/1024|{{monzo| -10 1 0 3 }}]], with an ~8/7 generator, three of which give the fifth. [[#Term|Term]] adds {{monzo| -94 54 0 3 }} with a 1/3-octave period. [[#Squirrel|Squirrel]], [[#Tertiaschis|tertiaschis]], and [[#Countertertiaschis|countertertiaschis]] each has a generator that is 1/3 of the fourth. [[#Quadrant|Quadrant]] adds {{monzo| -119 68 0 4 }} with a 1/4-octave period. [[#Kleischismic|Kleischismic]] adds {{monzo| 49 -38 0 4 }} with a half-octave period and also a bisect generator. [[#Sesquiquartififths|Sesquiquartififths]] adds {{monzo| -35 15 0 4 }} and slices the fifth in four.  
[[#Bischismic|Bischismic]] adds {{monzo| -69 40 0 2 }} and has a fifth generator with a half-octave period. [[#Salsa|Salsa]] adds [[parahemif comma|{{monzo| 15 -13 0 2 }}]] and has a hemififth generator. [[#Hemischis|Hemischis]] adds {{monzo| -34 25 0 -2 }} and has a hemitwelfth generator. [[Gamelismic clan #Guiron|Guiron]] adds [[1029/1024|{{monzo| -10 1 0 3 }}]], with an ~8/7 generator, three of which give the fifth. [[#Term|Term]] adds {{monzo| -94 54 0 3 }} with a 1/3-octave period. [[#Squirrel|Squirrel]], [[#Tertiaschis|tertiaschis]], and [[#Countertertiaschis|countertertiaschis]] each has a generator that is 1/3 of the fourth. [[#Quadrant|Quadrant]] adds {{monzo| -119 68 0 4 }} with a 1/4-octave period. [[#Kleischismic|Kleischismic]] adds {{monzo| 49 -38 0 4 }} with a half-octave period and also a bisect generator. [[#Sesquiquartififths|Sesquiquartififths]] adds {{monzo| -35 15 0 4 }} and slices the fifth in four.  


Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Tsaharuk|tsaharuk]], [[#Quanharuk|quanharuk]], [[#Quintilipyth|quintilipyth]], [[#Quintaschis|quintaschis]], [[#Altinex|altinex]], [[Stearnsmic clan #Pogo|pogo]], [[#Sextilifourths|sextilifourths]], [[#Septant|septant]], [[#Octant|octant]], [[#Nonant|nonant]], [[#Septiquarschis|septiquarschis]], and [[#Tridecafifths|tridecafifths]]. Those split the schismic structure into five to thirteen parts.  
Temperaments involving larger splits include [[#Tsaharuk|tsaharuk]], [[#Quanharuk|quanharuk]], [[#Quintilipyth|quintilipyth]], [[#Quintaschis|quintaschis]], [[#Altinex|altinex]], [[Stearnsmic clan #Pogo|pogo]], [[#Sextilifourths|sextilifourths]], [[#Septant|septant]], [[#Septiquarschis|septiquarschis]], [[#Octant|octant]], and [[#Nonant|nonant]]. Those split the schismic structure into five to nine parts.  


Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include:
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* ''[[Pogo]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Stearnsmic clan #Pogo|Stearnsmic clan]]
* ''[[Pogo]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Stearnsmic clan #Pogo|Stearnsmic clan]]


Considered below are garibaldi, pontiac, grackle, schism, bischismic, kleischismic, salsa, hemischis, term, altinex, squirrel, tertiaschis, countertertiaschis, quadrant, sesquiquartififths, tsaharuk, quanharuk, quintilipyth, quintaschis, sextilifourths, septant, octant, nonant, septiquarschis, and tridecafifths.  
The rest are considered below.  


The schismatic family boasts a variety of remarkable extensions to subgroups in high prime limits. These are listed at the bottom of this page, in [[#Subgroup extensions]].
The schismatic family boasts a variety of remarkable extensions to subgroups in high prime limits. These are listed at the bottom of this page, in [[#Subgroup extensions]].
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== Quanharuk ==
== Quanharuk ==
Quanharuk tempers out 16875/16807, the [[mirkwai]] comma, and may be described as the {{nowrap| 41 & 183 }} temperament. The generator is a slightly flat major third of [[~]][[56/45]], five of which make the [[3/1|3rd harmonic]], so the [[ploidacot]] of this temperament is alpha-pentacot. [[224edo]] makes for a recommendable tuning.  
Quanharuk tempers out 16875/16807, the [[canopic comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 41 & 183 }} temperament. The generator is a slightly flat major third of [[~]][[56/45]], five of which make the [[3/1|3rd harmonic]], so the [[ploidacot]] of this temperament is alpha-pentacot. [[224edo]] makes for a recommendable tuning.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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Badness (Sintel): 1.02
Badness (Sintel): 1.02


== Octant ==
== Septiquarschis ==
Octant may be described as the {{nowrap| 224 & 248 }} temperament. It has a period of 1/8 octave, and its [[ploidacot]] is octaploid monocot. In this temperament, [[12/11]], [[35/27]], and [[99/70]] are mapped to 1\8, 3\8, and 4\8 respectively.
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2021, septiquarschis tempers out [[829440/823543]] (mynaslender comma) and [[67108864/66706983]] (septiness comma), and may be described as the {{nowrap| 89 & 94 }} temperament. It splits septimal minor seventh ([[7/4]]) into four generators. Note that in the data below, the generator is the [[octave complement]] so that seven of them minus five octaves make a [[3/2|perfect fifth]]; its [[ploidacot]] is thus epsilon-heptacot.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 32805/32768, 2259436291848/2251875390625
[[Comma list]]: 32805/32768, 829440/823543


{{Mapping|legend=1| 8 0 120 -117 | 0 1 -8 11 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -4 47 6 | 0 7 56 -4 }}
: mapping generators: ~42875/39366, ~3
: mapping generators: ~2, ~256/147


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~42875/39366 = 150.0048{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7356{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.8855{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.2944{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.039 -0.181 +0.071 +0.127 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.114 -0.436 -0.182 +1.310 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~42875/39366 = 150.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7134{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3867{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.242 -0.021 +0.022 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.248 +0.032 +1.627 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, …, 224, 472, 696, 1168 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 89, 94, 183, 460d, 643d }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.98
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.73


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 9801/9800, 32805/32768, 46656/46585
Comma list: 540/539, 15488/15435, 32805/32768


{{Mapping|legend=0| 8 0 120 -117 15 | 0 1 -8 11 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 47 6 25 | 0 7 56 -4 -27 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~12/11 = 150.0010{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7177{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9430{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3390{{c}}
* CWE: ~12/11 = 150.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7131{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3849{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, …, 224, 472, 696, 1168 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 89, 94, 183, 460d }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.48
Badness (Sintel): 1.72


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 729/728, 1575/1573, 2200/2197, 6656/6655
Comma list: 540/539, 729/728, 1573/1568, 4096/4095


{{Mapping|legend=0| 8 0 120 -117 15 93 | 0 1 -8 11 1 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 47 6 25 -33 | 0 7 56 -4 -27 46 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~12/11 = 149.9957{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7046{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0058{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3946{{c}}
* CWE: ~12/11 = 150.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7247{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3900{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 224, 472, 696 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 89, 94, 183, 277, 460d }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.26
Badness (Sintel): 1.46


== Nonant ==
== Octant ==
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2023, nonant tempers out the [[septimal ennealimma]] ({{monzo| -11 -9 0 9 }}) and may be described as the {{nowrap| 36 & 171 }} temperament. It has a period of 1/9 octave, and its [[ploidacot]] is enneaploid monocot.  
Octant may be described as the {{nowrap| 224 & 248 }} temperament. It has a period of 1/8 octave, and its [[ploidacot]] is octaploid monocot. In this temperament, [[12/11]], [[35/27]], and [[99/70]] are mapped to 1\8, 3\8, and 4\8 respectively.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 32805/32768, 40353607/40310784
[[Comma list]]: 32805/32768, 2259436291848/2251875390625


{{Mapping|legend=1| 9 0 135 11 | 0 1 -8 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 8 0 120 -117 | 0 1 -8 11 }}
: mapping generators: ~2592/2401, ~3
: mapping generators: ~42875/39366, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3442{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.8000{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~42875/39366 = 150.0048{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7356{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.098 -0.057 -0.027 -0.141 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.039 -0.181 +0.071 +0.127 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7384{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~42875/39366 = 150.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7134{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.217 -0.221 -0.421 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.242 -0.021 +0.022 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 36, 99c, 135, 171, 2772bd, 2943bdd, …, 5166bccddd, 5337bccddd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 24, …, 224, 472, 696, 1168 }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.77
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.98


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 540/539, 32805/32768, 42875/42592
Comma list: 9801/9800, 32805/32768, 46656/46585


{{Mapping|legend=0| 9 0 135 11 131 | 0 1 -8 1 -7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 8 0 120 -117 15 | 0 1 -8 11 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~242/225 = 133.3308{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.8205{{c}}
* WE: ~12/11 = 150.0010{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7177{{c}}
* CWE: ~242/225 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.8351{{c}}
* CWE: ~12/11 = 150.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7131{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 36, 135, 171 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, …, 224, 472, 696, 1168 }}


Badness (Sintel): 4.20
Badness (Sintel): 1.48


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 540/539, 729/728, 4096/4095, 16807/16731
Comma list: 729/728, 1575/1573, 2200/2197, 6656/6655


{{Mapping|legend=0| 9 0 135 11 131 -38 | 0 1 -8 1 -7 5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 8 0 120 -117 15 93 | 0 1 -8 11 1 -5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~242/225 = 133.3180{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.6956{{c}}
* WE: ~12/11 = 149.9957{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7046{{c}}
* CWE: ~242/225 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7800{{c}}
* CWE: ~12/11 = 150.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7247{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 36, 99cf, 135, 171 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 24, 224, 472, 696 }}


Badness (Sintel): 3.15
Badness (Sintel): 1.26


== Septiquarschis ==
== Nonant ==
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2021, septiquarschis tempers out [[829440/823543]] (mynaslender comma) and [[67108864/66706983]] (septiness comma), and may be described as the {{nowrap| 89 & 94 }} temperament. It splits septimal minor seventh ([[7/4]]) into four generators. Note that in the data below, the generator is the [[octave complement]] so that seven of them minus five octaves make a [[3/2|perfect fifth]]; its [[ploidacot]] is thus epsilon-heptacot.  
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2023, nonant tempers out the [[septimal ennealimma]] ({{monzo| -11 -9 0 9 }}) and may be described as the {{nowrap| 36 & 171 }} temperament. It has a period of 1/9 octave, and its [[ploidacot]] is enneaploid monocot.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 32805/32768, 829440/823543
[[Comma list]]: 32805/32768, 40353607/40310784


{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -4 47 6 | 0 7 56 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 9 0 135 11 | 0 1 -8 1 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~256/147
: mapping generators: ~2592/2401, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.8855{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.2944{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3442{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.8000{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.114 -0.436 -0.182 +1.310 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.098 -0.057 -0.027 -0.141 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3867{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2592/2401 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7384{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.248 +0.032 +1.627 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.217 -0.221 -0.421 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 89, 94, 183, 460d, 643d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 36, 99c, 135, 171, 2772bd, 2943bdd, …, 5166bccddd, 5337bccddd }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.73
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.77


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 540/539, 15488/15435, 32805/32768
Comma list: 540/539, 32805/32768, 42875/42592


{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 47 6 25 | 0 7 56 -4 -27 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 9 0 135 11 131 | 0 1 -8 1 -7 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9430{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3390{{c}}
* WE: ~242/225 = 133.3308{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.8205{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3849{{c}}
* CWE: ~242/225 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.8351{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 89, 94, 183, 460d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 36, 135, 171 }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.72
Badness (Sintel): 4.20


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 540/539, 729/728, 1573/1568, 4096/4095
Comma list: 540/539, 729/728, 4096/4095, 16807/16731


{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -4 47 6 25 -33 | 0 7 56 -4 -27 46 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 9 0 135 11 131 -38 | 0 1 -8 1 -7 5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.0058{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3946{{c}}
* WE: ~242/225 = 133.3180{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.6956{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~256/147 = 957.3900{{c}}
* CWE: ~242/225 = 133.3333{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.7800{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 89, 94, 183, 277, 460d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 36, 99cf, 135, 171 }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.46
Badness (Sintel): 3.15


== Subgroup extensions ==
== Subgroup extensions ==
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