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This is a collection of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] that [[tempering out| | This is a collection of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] that [[tempering out|temper out]] the [[porwell comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| 11 1 -3 -2 }}, [[ratio]]: [[6144/6125]]). | ||
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | ||
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* [[Porcupine]] (+64/63) → [[Porcupine family #Porcupine|Porcupine family]] | * [[Porcupine]] (+64/63) → [[Porcupine family #Porcupine|Porcupine family]] | ||
* ''[[Alphatrident]]'' (+14348907/14336000) → [[Alphatricot family #Alphatrident|Alphatricot family]] | * ''[[Alphatrident]]'' (+14348907/14336000) → [[Alphatricot family #Alphatrident|Alphatricot family]] | ||
* [[Shrutar]] (+245/243) → [[Diaschismic family #Shrutar|Diaschismic family]] | * ''[[Shrutar]]'' (+245/243) → [[Diaschismic family #Shrutar|Diaschismic family]] | ||
* [[Amity]] (+4375/4374 or 5120/5103) → [[Amity family #Septimal amity|Amity family]] | * [[Amity]] (+4375/4374 or 5120/5103) → [[Amity family #Septimal amity|Amity family]] | ||
* [[Orwell]] (+225/224) → [[Semicomma family #Orwell|Semicomma family]] | * [[Orwell]] (+225/224) → [[Semicomma family #Orwell|Semicomma family]] | ||
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* ''[[Decimaleap]]'' (+{{monzo| 15 -18 1 4 }}) → [[Quintaleap family #Decimaleap|Quintaleap family]] | * ''[[Decimaleap]]'' (+{{monzo| 15 -18 1 4 }}) → [[Quintaleap family #Decimaleap|Quintaleap family]] | ||
* ''[[Hemikleismic]]'' (+4000/3969) → [[Kleismic family #Hemikleismic|Kleismic family]] | * ''[[Hemikleismic]]'' (+4000/3969) → [[Kleismic family #Hemikleismic|Kleismic family]] | ||
* ''[[Twothirdtonic]]'' (+686/675) → [[Sengic temperaments #Twothirdtonic|Sengic temperaments]] | |||
* ''[[Bison]]'' (+78732/78125) → [[Sensipent family #Bison|Sensipent family]] | * ''[[Bison]]'' (+78732/78125) → [[Sensipent family #Bison|Sensipent family]] | ||
* ''[[Quinkee]]'' (+1029/1000) → [[ | * ''[[Quinkee]]'' (+1029/1000) → [[Keegic temperaments #Quinkee|Keegic temperaments]] | ||
* ''[[Hemiwürschmidt]]'' (+2401/2400 or 3136/3125) → [[Hemimean clan #Hemiwürschmidt|Hemimean clan]] | * ''[[Hemiwürschmidt]]'' (+2401/2400 or 3136/3125) → [[Hemimean clan #Hemiwürschmidt|Hemimean clan]] | ||
* ''[[Septisuperfourth]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Escapade family #Septisuperfourth|Escapade family]] | * ''[[Septisuperfourth]]'' (+118098/117649) → [[Escapade family #Septisuperfourth|Escapade family]] | ||
* ''[[Semaja]]'' (+3125/3087) → [[Gariboh clan #Semaja|Gariboh clan]] | |||
* ''[[Hemimabila]]'' (+117649/116640) → [[Mabila family #Hemimabila|Mabila family]] | * ''[[Hemimabila]]'' (+117649/116640) → [[Mabila family #Hemimabila|Mabila family]] | ||
* ''[[Countermiracle]]'' (+823543/819200) → [[Quince clan #Countermiracle|Quince clan]] | * ''[[Countermiracle]]'' (+823543/819200) → [[Quince clan #Countermiracle|Quince clan]] | ||
* ''[[Hemimaquila]]'' (+{{monzo| -5 10 5 -8 }}) → [[Maquila family #Hemimaquila|Maquila family]] | * ''[[Hemimaquila]]'' (+{{monzo| -5 10 5 -8 }}) → [[Maquila family #Hemimaquila|Maquila family]] | ||
Considered below are hendecatonic, nessafof, | Considered below are hendecatonic, nessafof, grendel, aufo, absurdity, polypyth, whoops, dodifo, and icositritonic, in the order of increasing [[badness]]. | ||
== Hendecatonic == | == Hendecatonic == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[ | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Hendecatonic]].'' | ||
The hendecatonic temperament has a period of 1/11 octave, which represents [[16/15]] and four times of which represent [[9/7]]. It tempers out 10976/10935, the [[hemimage comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 22 & 99 }} temperament, with [[99edo]] giving an almost perfect tuning. | The hendecatonic temperament has a period of 1/11 octave, which represents [[16/15]] and four times of which represent [[9/7]]. It tempers out 10976/10935, the [[hemimage comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 22 & 99 }} temperament, with [[99edo]] giving an almost perfect tuning. | ||
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.04 | [[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.04 | ||
=== | === Hendecaton === | ||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 10976/10935 | Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 10976/10935 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 11 0 43 -4 38 | 0 1 -1 2 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 351/350, 4459/4455 | Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 351/350, 4459/4455 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 11 0 43 -4 38 93 | 0 1 -1 2 0 -3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 121/120, 154/153, 176/175, 273/272, 2025/2023 | Comma list: 121/120, 154/153, 176/175, 273/272, 2025/2023 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 11 0 43 -4 38 93 45 | 0 1 -1 2 0 -3 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 540/539, 896/891, 4375/4356 | Comma list: 540/539, 896/891, 4375/4356 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 11 0 43 -4 73 | 0 1 -1 2 -2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 352/351, 364/363, 540/539, 625/624 | Comma list: 352/351, 364/363, 540/539, 625/624 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 11 0 43 -4 73 128 | 0 1 -1 2 -2 -5 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 364/363, 375/374, 540/539 | Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 364/363, 375/374, 540/539 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 11 0 43 -4 73 128 45 | 0 1 -1 2 -2 -5 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 3388/3375, 6144/6125, 9801/9800 | Comma list: 3388/3375, 6144/6125, 9801/9800 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 22 0 86 -8 111 | 0 1 -1 2 -1 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~33/32, ~3 | : mapping generators: ~33/32, ~3 | ||
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Comma list: 441/440, 1344/1331, 4375/4356 | Comma list: 441/440, 1344/1331, 4375/4356 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 2 5 10 10 | 0 7 5 -4 1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 144/143, 364/363, 441/440, 625/624 | Comma list: 144/143, 364/363, 441/440, 625/624 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 2 5 10 10 6 | 0 7 5 -4 1 13 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 250047/250000 | Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 250047/250000 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 2 5 10 8 | 0 7 5 -4 6 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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== Grendel == | == Grendel == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–31 equivalence continuum #Counterwürschmidt]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–31 equivalence continuum #Counterwürschmidt]].'' | ||
Grendel tempers out 16875/16807, the [[mirkwai comma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 31 & 152 }} temperament. [[152edo]], [[183edo]] and especially [[335edo]] serve as good tunings. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Comma list: 540/539, 1375/1372, 5632/5625 | Comma list: 540/539, 1375/1372, 5632/5625 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 | 0 23 -1 13 42 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 352/351, 540/539, 625/624, 1375/1372 | Comma list: 352/351, 540/539, 625/624, 1375/1372 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 22 | 0 23 -1 13 42 -27 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 625/624, 715/714, 1275/1274 | Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 625/624, 715/714, 1275/1274 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 22 19 | 0 23 -1 13 42 -27 -22 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 375/374, 400/399, 456/455, 715/714 | Comma list: 256/255, 352/351, 375/374, 400/399, 456/455, 715/714 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -14 3 -6 -25 22 19 30 | 0 23 -1 13 42 -27 -22 -38 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 1.12 | Badness (Sintel): 1.12 | ||
== Aufo == | == Aufo == | ||
:''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Untriton]].'' | :''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Untriton]].'' | ||
Also named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, ''aufo'' refers to the augmented fourth, which is a generator of this temperament<ref name="petr's long post"/>. The functional generator however is the [[64/45]] diminished fifth, and like its [[untriton]] variant, nine generator steps give the [[interval class]] of [[3/1|3]]. The [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is delta-enneacot. | Also named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, ''aufo'' refers to the augmented fourth, which is a generator of this temperament<ref name="petr's long post">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_101780.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Suggested names for the unclasified temperaments'']</ref>. The functional generator however is the [[64/45]] diminished fifth, and like its [[untriton]] variant, nine generator steps give the [[interval class]] of [[3/1|3]]. The [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is delta-enneacot. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 177147/175616 | Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 177147/175616 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -3 12 -14 6 | 0 9 -19 33 -5 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 351/350, 58806/57967 | Comma list: 121/120, 176/175, 351/350, 58806/57967 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -3 12 -14 6 20 | 0 9 -19 33 -5 -32 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 540/539, 5632/5625, 72171/71680 | Comma list: 540/539, 5632/5625, 72171/71680 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -3 12 -14 33 | 0 9 -19 33 -58 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 351/350, 540/539, 847/845, 4096/4095 | Comma list: 351/350, 540/539, 847/845, 4096/4095 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -3 12 -14 33 20 | 0 9 -19 33 -58 -32 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 441/440, 6144/6125, 72171/71680 | Comma list: 441/440, 6144/6125, 72171/71680 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 7 0 -17 64 124 | 0 1 3 -4 -9 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 1188/1183, 3584/3575 | Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 1188/1183, 3584/3575 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 7 0 -17 64 124 37 | 0 1 3 -4 -9 -1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 561/560, 1188/1183, 1632/1625 | Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 561/560, 1188/1183, 1632/1625 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 7 0 -17 64 124 37 -49 | 0 1 3 -4 -9 -1 7 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 324/323, 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 495/494 | Comma list: 324/323, 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 495/494 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 7 0 -17 64 124 37 -49 63 | 0 1 3 -4 -9 -1 7 -3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 276/275, 324/323, 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 495/494 | Comma list: 276/275, 324/323, 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 495/494 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 7 0 -17 64 124 37 -49 63 76 | 0 1 3 -4 -9 -1 7 -3 -4 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 261/260, 276/275, 324/323, 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 495/494 | Comma list: 261/260, 276/275, 324/323, 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 495/494 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 7 0 -17 64 124 37 -49 63 76 34 | 0 1 3 -4 -9 -1 7 -3 -4 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Leapday]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Leapday]].'' | ||
Polypyth | Polypyth tempers out the same 5-limit comma as [[leapday]], with which it shares the similarly sharp [[3/2|perfect-fifth]] generator, but the porwell comma (6144/6125) rather than the hemifamity comma (5120/5103) is tempered out here. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 46 & 121 }} temperament, and [[121edo]] and [[167edo]] make for good tunings. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Comma list: 896/891, 2200/2187, 6144/6125 | Comma list: 896/891, 2200/2187, 6144/6125 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -31 52 59 | 0 1 21 -31 -35 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 1716/1715 | Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 1716/1715 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -31 52 59 64 | 0 1 21 -31 -35 -38 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 256/255, 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 1716/1715 | Comma list: 256/255, 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 1716/1715 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 -31 52 59 64 39 | 0 1 21 -31 -35 -38 -22 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 0.971 | Badness (Sintel): 0.971 | ||
== Majo == | |||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Schismic–Mercator equivalence continuum #Maja (5-limit)]].'' | |||
Possibly named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2012, majo may be described as {{nowrap| 53 & 167 }} and is a more complex alternative to [[maja]]. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 6144/6125, 1250000/1240029 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -9 -12 19 | 0 17 23 -26 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~125/81 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.4701{{c}}, ~125/81 = 746.9341{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.530 +0.694 -0.470 +0.819 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~125/81 = 747.2751{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.721 +1.013 +2.022 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 53, 167, 220, 493bd, 713bdd }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 3.56 | |||
=== 11-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 2200/2187, 3388/3375, 6144/6125 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -9 -12 19 -42 | 0 17 23 -26 73 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4882{{c}}, ~77/50 = 746.9681{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~77/50 = 747.2776{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 114e, 167, 220, 387bd }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 2.71 | |||
=== 13-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 1001/1000, 2704/2695 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -9 -12 19 -42 -10 | 0 17 23 -26 73 22 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5860{{c}}, ~20/13 = 747.0285{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~20/13 = 747.2789{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 114e, 167, 220, 387bd }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.78 | |||
== Whoops == | == Whoops == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Whoosh]].'' | : ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Whoosh]].'' | ||
Also named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, | Also named by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011, whoops is a relatively simple extension to the otherwise very accurate microtemperament known as ''whoosh''<ref name="petr's long post"/>. | ||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Comma list: 3025/3024, 4000/3993, 6144/6125 | Comma list: 3025/3024, 4000/3993, 6144/6125 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -16 -11 14 -4 | 0 33 25 -21 14 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 1375/1372, 2560/2541, 4375/4356 | Comma list: 1375/1372, 2560/2541, 4375/4356 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -23 -4 0 14 | 0 35 9 4 -15 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 364/363, 625/624, 640/637, 1375/1372 | Comma list: 364/363, 625/624, 640/637, 1375/1372 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 12 5 4 -1 4 | 0 -35 -9 -4 15 -1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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{{See also| 23rd-octave temperaments }} | {{See also| 23rd-octave temperaments }} | ||
Icositritonic has a period of 1/23 octave, so six period represents [[6/5]] and nine period represents [[21/16]]. It may be described as {{nowrap| 46 & 161 }}. It was named by [[Xenllium]] in 2019 for its number of periods per octave. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Comma list: 441/440, 6144/6125, 35937/35840 | Comma list: 441/440, 6144/6125, 35937/35840 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 23 0 17 101 116 | 0 1 1 -1 -1 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 847/845, 3584/3575 | Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 847/845, 3584/3575 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 23 0 17 101 116 158 | 0 1 1 -1 -1 -2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 561/560, 847/845, 1089/1088 | Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 561/560, 847/845, 1089/1088 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 23 0 17 101 116 158 94 | 0 1 1 -1 -1 -2 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 513/512, 847/845 | Comma list: 351/350, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 513/512, 847/845 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 23 0 17 101 116 158 94 207 | 0 1 1 -1 -1 -2 0 -3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 276/275, 351/350, 391/390, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 847/845 | Comma list: 276/275, 351/350, 391/390, 441/440, 456/455, 476/475, 847/845 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 23 0 17 101 116 158 94 207 104 | 0 1 1 -1 -1 -2 0 -3 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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== References == | == References == | ||
[[Category:Porwell temperaments| ]] <!-- main article --> | |||
[[Category:Temperament collections]] | [[Category:Temperament collections]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Catalogs of rank-2 temperaments]] | ||