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Since {{nowrap|(10/9)<sup>4</sup> {{=}} (4375/4374)⋅(32/21) }}, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low [[complexity]] in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at [[microtemperament]]s the word "relatively" should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have {{nowrap| 7/6 {{=}} (4375/4374)⋅(27/25)<sup>2</sup> }}, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low complexity, with the same caveat about "relatively"; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.
Since {{nowrap|(10/9)<sup>4</sup> {{=}} (4375/4374)⋅(32/21) }}, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low [[complexity]] in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at [[microtemperament]]s the word "relatively" should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have {{nowrap| 7/6 {{=}} (4375/4374)⋅(27/25)<sup>2</sup> }}, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low complexity, with the same caveat about "relatively"; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.


Microtemperaments considered below, sorted by [[badness]], are supermajor, enneadecal, semidimi, brahmagupta, abigail, gamera, crazy, orga, seniority, monzismic, semidimfourth, acrokleismic, quasithird, deca, keenanose, aluminium, quatracot, moulin, and palladium. Some near-microtemperaments are appended as octoid, parakleismic, counterkleismic, quincy, sfourth, and trideci. Discussed elsewhere are:  
Microtemperaments considered below, sorted by [[badness]], are supermajor, enneadecal, semidimi, brahmagupta, abigail, gamera, crazy, orga, seniority, monzismic, semidimfourth, acrokleismic, quasithird, deca, keenanose, aluminium, ragitritonic, quatracot, moulin, and palladium. Some near-microtemperaments are appended as octoid, parakleismic, counterkleismic, quincy, sfourth, and trideci. Discussed elsewhere are:  
* ''[[Hystrix]]'' (+36/35) → [[Porcupine family #Hystrix|Porcupine family]]
* ''[[Hystrix]]'' (+36/35) → [[Porcupine family #Hystrix|Porcupine family]]
* ''[[Rhinoceros]]'' (+49/48) → [[Unicorn family #Rhinoceros|Unicorn family]]
* ''[[Rhinoceros]]'' (+49/48) → [[Unicorn family #Rhinoceros|Unicorn family]]
* ''[[Crepuscular]]'' (+50/49) → [[Fifive family #Crepuscular|Fifive family]]
* ''[[Crepuscular]]'' (+50/49) → [[Fifive family #Crepuscular|Fifive family]]
* ''[[Modus]]'' (+64/63) → [[Tetracot family #Modus|Tetracot family]]
* [[Modus]] (+64/63) → [[Tetracot family #Modus|Tetracot family]]
* ''[[Flattone]]'' (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Flattone|Meantone family]]
* [[Flattone]] (+81/80) → [[Meantone family #Flattone|Meantone family]]
* [[Sensi]] (+126/125 or 245/243) → [[Sensipent family #Sensi|Sensipent family]]
* [[Sensi]] (+126/125 or 245/243) → [[Sensipent family #Sensi|Sensipent family]]
* [[Catakleismic]] (+225/224) → [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|Kleismic family]]
* [[Catakleismic]] (+225/224) → [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|Kleismic family]]
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== Brahmagupta ==
== Brahmagupta ==
The brahmagupta temperament has a period of 1/7 octave, tempering out the [[akjaysma]] ({{monzo| 47 -7 -7 -7 }}).  
The brahmagupta temperament has a period of 1/7 octave, tempering out the [[akjaysma]] ({{monzo| 47 -7 -7 -7 }}), and may be described as the {{nowrap| 217 & 224 }} temperament.  


Early in the design of the [[Sagittal]] notation system, [[George Secor|Secor]] and [[Dave Keenan|Keenan]] found that an economical JI notation system could be defined, which divided the apotome (Pythagorean sharp or flat) into 21 almost-equal divisions. This required only 10 microtonal accidentals, although a few others were added for convenience in alternative spellings. This is called the Athenian symbol set (which includes the Spartan set). Its symbols are defined to exactly notate many common 11-limit ratios and the 17th harmonic, and to approximate within ±0.4{{c}} many common 13-limit ratios. If the divisions were made exactly equal, this would be the specific tuning of brahmagupta that has pure octaves and pure fifths, which can also be described as a 17-limit extension having a 1/7-octave period (171.4286{{c}}) and 1/21-apotome generator (5.4136{{c}}).
Early in the design of the [[Sagittal]] notation system, [[George Secor|Secor]] and [[Dave Keenan|Keenan]] found that an economical JI notation system could be defined, which divided the apotome (Pythagorean sharp or flat) into 21 almost-equal divisions. This required only 10 microtonal accidentals, although a few others were added for convenience in alternative spellings. This is called the Athenian symbol set (which includes the Spartan set). Its symbols are defined to exactly notate many common 11-limit ratios and the 17th harmonic, and to approximate within ±0.4{{c}} many common 13-limit ratios. If the divisions were made exactly equal, this would be the specific tuning of brahmagupta that has pure octaves and pure fifths, which can also be described as a 17-limit extension having a 1/7-octave period (171.4286{{c}}) and 1/21-apotome generator (5.4136{{c}}).
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Abigail]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Abigail]].''


Abigail tempers out the [[pessoalisma]] in addition to the ragisma in the 7-limit. It was named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2010 after the birthday of First Lady Abigail Fillmore.<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_17927.html#17930 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''11-limit rank 2 using only wedgies''] "I propose Abigail as a name, on the grounds 313/1798 is an excellent generator, and Abigail Fillmore, wife of Millard, was born on 3-13-1798 at least as Americans recon things." —Gene Ward Smith</ref>
Abigail tempers out the [[pessoalisma]] in addition to the ragisma in the 7-limit, and may be described as the {{nowrap| 46 & 224 }} temperament, with a [[ploidacot]] signature of diploid wau-hendecacot. It extends into a very strong 11- and 13-limit temperament. [[494edo]], [[764edo]] and [[1258edo]] are among the possible tunings.
 
Abigail was named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2010 after the birthday of First Lady Abigail Fillmore.<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_17927.html#17930 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''11-limit rank 2 using only wedgies''] "I propose Abigail as a name, on the grounds 313/1798 is an excellent generator, and Abigail Fillmore, wife of Millard, was born on 3-13-1798 at least as Americans recon things." —Gene Ward Smith</ref>


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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Kwazy]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Kwazy]].''


Crazy tempers out the [[kwazy comma]] in the 5-limit, and adds the ragisma to extend it to the 7-limit. It can be described as the {{nowrap| 118 & 494 }} temperament. [[1106edo]] is a strong tuning.  
Crazy tempers out the [[kwazy comma]] in the 5-limit, and adds the ragisma to extend it to the 7-limit. It can be described as the {{nowrap| 118 & 494 }} temperament, with a [[ploidacot]] of diploid alpha-octacot. [[1106edo]] gives a strong tuning.
 
Crazy was named by [[Flora Canou]] in 2025 by removing the mutation from ''kwazy'', the name for the 5-limit microtemperament.  


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{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 6 -15 | 0 8 -5 76 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 6 -15 | 0 8 -5 76 }}
: Mapping generators: ~332150625/234881024, ~1125/1024
: mapping generators: ~332150625/234881024, ~1125/1024


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
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== Orga ==
== Orga ==
Orga may be described as the {{nowrap| 26 & 270 }} temperament, and [[1106edo]] gives a strong tuning.
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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Senior]].  
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Senior]].  


Aside from the ragisma, the seniority temperament tempers out the [[wadisma]], 201768035/201326592, and may be described as {{nowrap| 26 & 145 }}. It is so named because the senior comma ({{monzo| -17 62 -35 }}, quadla-sepquingu) is tempered out.
Aside from the ragisma, the seniority temperament tempers out the [[wadisma]], 201768035/201326592, and may be described as {{nowrap| 26 & 145 }}. It is so named because the [[senior comma]] ({{monzo| -17 62 -35 }}) is tempered out.


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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Monzismic]].  
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Very high accuracy temperaments #Monzismic]].  


The monzismic temperament tempers out the [[monzisma]], {{monzo| 54 -37 2 }}, and in the 7-limit, the [[nanisma]], {{monzo| 109 -67 0 -1 }}, as well as the ragisma, [[4375/4374]]. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 53 & 612 }} temperament. A notable tuning not appearing on the optimal ET sequence is [[665edo]], which is nearly equivalent to the pure-3's tuning.
Monzismic tempers out the [[monzisma]], {{monzo| 54 -37 2 }}, and in the 7-limit, the [[nanisma]], {{monzo| 109 -67 0 -1 }}, as well as the ragisma, [[4375/4374]]. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 53 & 612 }} temperament, with a [[ploidacot]] signature of alpha-dicot. A notable tuning not appearing on the optimal ET sequence is [[665edo]], which is nearly equivalent to the pure-3's tuning.


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[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9305{{c}}, ~6/5 = 884.3923{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.9305{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.3923{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.070 +0.126 +0.160 -0.221 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.070 +0.126 +0.160 -0.221 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~6/5 = 884.4423{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~5/3 = 884.4423{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.198 +0.282 -0.136 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.198 +0.282 -0.136 }}


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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Quasithird]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Quasithird]].''


The quasithird temperament is featured by a major third interval which is 1600000/1594323 ([[amity comma]]) or 5120/5103 ([[5120/5103|hemifamity comma]]) below the just major third [[5/4]] as a generator, five of which give a fifth with octave reduction. This temperament has a period of a quarter octave, which allows to temper out the ragisma and {{monzo| -60 29 0 5 }}.
Quasithird may be described as the {{nowrap| 224 & 388 }} temperament, featured by a major third interval which is 1600000/1594323 ([[amity comma]]) or 5120/5103 ([[5120/5103|hemifamity comma]]) below the just major third [[5/4]] as a generator, five of which give a fifth with octave reduction. This temperament has a period of a quarter octave, which allows it to temper out the ragisma and {{monzo| -60 29 0 5 }}. Its [[ploidacot]] is tetraploid delta-pentacot.  


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: ''For 5-limit version, see [[10th-octave temperaments #Neon]].''
: ''For 5-limit version, see [[10th-octave temperaments #Neon]].''


Deca temperament has a period of 1/10 octave and tempers out the [[linus comma]], {{monzo| 11 -10 -10 10 }}, neon comma {{monzo| 21 60 -50 }} and {{monzo| 12 -3 -14 9 }} (165288374272/164794921875).
Deca has a period of 1/10 octave and tempers out the neon comma {{monzo| 21 60 -50 }} in the 5-limit, the [[linus comma]]{{monzo| 11 -10 -10 10 }} and {{monzo| 12 -3 -14 9 }} (165288374272/164794921875) in the 7-limit. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 80 & 190 }} temperament, and has a [[ploidacot]] of decaploid wau-pentacot.  


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== Keenanose ==
== Keenanose ==
Keenanose is named for the fact that it uses [[385/384]], the keenanisma, as the generator.
Keenanose, the {{nowrap| 270 & 1889 }} temperament, was named by [[Eliora]] in 2022 for the fact that it uses [[385/384]], the keenanisma, as the generator.


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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[13th-octave temperaments #Aluminium]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[13th-octave temperaments #Aluminium]].''


Aluminium is named after the 13th element, and tempers out the {{monzo| 92 -39 -13 }} comma which sets [[135/128]] interval to be equal to 1/13th of the octave.
Aluminium was named by [[Eliora]] in 2023 after the 13th element. It tempers out the {{monzo| 92 -39 -13 }} comma, which sets [[135/128]] interval to be equal to 1/13th of the octave.


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Badness (Sintel): 1.18
Badness (Sintel): 1.18


== Countritonic ==
== Ragitritonic ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Schismic–Mercator equivalence continuum #Countritonic (5-limit)]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Schismic–Mercator equivalence continuum #Countritonic]].''
 
Ragitritonic may be described as the {{nowrap| 53 & 369 }} temperament, splitting the [[24/1|24th harmonic]] into nine tritone generators; its [[ploidacot]] is thus delta-enneacot. [[422edo]] makes for a strong tuning.


Countritonic (''co-un-tritonic'') can be described as the {{nowrap| 53 & 422 }} temperament, generated by an octave-reduced 91st harmonic or subharmonic in the 13-limit.  
Ragitritonic was named by [[Flora Canou]] in 2026 as a contraction of ''ragismic'' and ''tritonic''.  


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Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7916{{c}}, ~768/539 = 611.2698{{c}}
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7916{{c}}, ~91/64 = 611.2698{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~768/539 = 611.3754{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~91/64 = 611.3754{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 316ef, 369f, 422, 1213cdeff, 1635bcdefff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 316ef, 369f, 422, 1213cdeff, 1635bcdefff }}
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== Moulin ==
== Moulin ==
Moulin can be described as the {{nowrap| 494 & 1619 }} temperament. It has a generator of ~[[22/13]], and it is named after the ''Law & Order: Special Victims Unit'' episode Season 22, Episode 13. "Trick-Rolled At The Moulin". However, the functional generator is ~[[13/11]], and 73 of them octave reduced reach the [[3/2|perfect fifth]]. Since [[11/8]] is within 23 generators, the 25-tone generator chain (4L 21s) of this temperament contains the 8:11:13 triad.
Moulin can be described as the {{nowrap| 494 & 1619 }} temperament. It has a generator of ~[[22/13]], and it was named by [[Eliora]] in 2022 after the ''Law & Order: Special Victims Unit'' episode Season 22, Episode 13. "Trick-Rolled At The Moulin". However, the functional generator is ~[[13/11]], and 73 of them octave reduced reach the [[3/2|perfect fifth]]. Since [[11/8]] is within 23 generators, the 25-tone generator chain (4L 21s) of this temperament contains the 8:11:13 triad.


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: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Oviminor (5-limit)]].''  
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Oviminor (5-limit)]].''  


Oviminor is named after the facts that it takes 184 minor thirds of [[6/5]] to reach the interval class of [[4/3]], the Roman consul was Eggius in the year 184 AD, and the Latin word for egg is ovum, and with prefix ovi-. It sets a new record of complexity for a chain of nineteen 6/5's past [[egads]], though it is less accurate.  
Oviminor was named by [[Eliora]] in 2022 after the facts that it takes 184 minor thirds of [[6/5]] to reach the interval class of [[4/3]], the Roman consul was Eggius in the year 184 AD, and the Latin word for egg is ovum, and with prefix ovi-. It sets a new record of complexity for a chain of nineteen 6/5's past [[egads]], though it is less accurate.  


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== Octoid ==
== Octoid ==
: {{Main| Octoid }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[8th-octave temperaments #Octoid]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[8th-octave temperaments #Octoid]].''


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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.08
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.08
Scales: [[octoid72]], [[octoid80]]


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Badness (Sintel): 0.466
Badness (Sintel): 0.466
Scales: [[octoid72]], [[octoid80]]


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
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Badness (Sintel): 0.631
Badness (Sintel): 0.631
Scales: [[octoid72]], [[octoid80]]
; Music
* ''Dreyfus'' (archived 2010) by [[Gene Ward Smith]] – [https://soundcloud.com/genewardsmith/genewardsmith-dreyfus SoundCloud] | [https://www.archive.org/details/Dreyfus details] | [https://www.archive.org/download/Dreyfus/Genewardsmith-Dreyfus.mp3 play] – Octoid[72] in 224edo tuning


===== 17-limit =====
===== 17-limit =====