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This is a collection of [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] | This is a collection of [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] '''octagar temperaments''', which [[tempering out|temper out]] the [[octagar comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| 5 -4 3 -2 }}, [[ratio]]: 4000/3969). | ||
Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | Temperaments discussed elsewhere are: | ||
* [[Garibaldi]] (+225/224) → [[Schismatic family #Garibaldi|Schismatic family]] | |||
* ''[[Injera]]'' (+50/49 or 81/80) → [[Meantone family #Injera|Meantone family]] | |||
* [[Augene]] (+64/63 or 126/125) → [[Augmented family #Septimal augmented (augene)|Augmented family]] | |||
* ''[[Sida]]'' (+25/24) → [[Dicot family #Sida|Dicot family]] | * ''[[Sida]]'' (+25/24) → [[Dicot family #Sida|Dicot family]] | ||
* ''[[Bidia]]'' (+2048/2025 or 3136/3125) → [[Diaschismic family #Bidia|Diaschismic family]] | |||
* ''[[Rip]]'' (+36/35) → [[Ripple family #Rip|Ripple family]] | * ''[[Rip]]'' (+36/35) → [[Ripple family #Rip|Ripple family]] | ||
* ''[[Quintupole]]'' (+458752/455625) → [[Quintaleap family #Quintupole|Quintaleap family]] | |||
* ''[[Nautilus]]'' (+49/48) → [[Porcupine family #Nautilus|Porcupine family]] | * ''[[Nautilus]]'' (+49/48) → [[Porcupine family #Nautilus|Porcupine family]] | ||
* ''[[ | * ''[[Roman]]'' (+525/512) → [[Wesley family #Roman|Wesley family]] | ||
* ''[[Octacot]]'' (+245/243) → [[Tetracot family #Octacot|Tetracot family]] | * ''[[Octacot]]'' (+245/243) → [[Tetracot family #Octacot|Tetracot family]] | ||
* [[Superkleismic]] (+875/864 or 1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Superkleismic|Gamelismic clan]] | * [[Superkleismic]] (+875/864 or 1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Superkleismic|Gamelismic clan]] | ||
* ''[[Hamity]]'' (+2430/2401) → [[Amity family #Hamity|Amity family]] | * ''[[Hamity]]'' (+2430/2401) → [[Amity family #Hamity|Amity family]] | ||
* ''[[Quartonic]]'' (+1728/1715) → [[Quartonic family #Septimal quartonic|Quartonic family]] | |||
* ''[[Hemikleismic]]'' (+6144/6125) → [[Kleismic family #Hemikleismic|Kleismic family]] | * ''[[Hemikleismic]]'' (+6144/6125) → [[Kleismic family #Hemikleismic|Kleismic family]] | ||
* ''[[ | * ''[[Trisedodge]]'' (+110592/109375) → [[Trisedodge family #Septimal trisedodge|Trisedodge family]] | ||
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Considered below are pluto, slithy, tridecatonic, slendi and dhaivatic, in the order of increasing [[badness]]. | |||
== Pluto == | |||
{{Distinguish| Plutus }} | |||
Pluto, named by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2010<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_18465.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''19-limit Pluto temperament'']</ref>, can be described as the {{nowrap| 41 & 80 }} temperament. It is generated by a flattened [[~]][[10/7]] [[tritone]], seven of which give the [[interval class]] of [[3/1|3]], and the [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is gamma-heptacot. [[121edo|59\121]] is about perfect as a tuning. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | |||
[[Comma list]]: 4000/3969, 10976/10935 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 -2 -11 -10 | 0 7 26 25 }} | |||
: mapping generators: ~2, ~10/7 | |||
[[Optimal tuning]]s: | |||
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.4720{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.5826{{c}} | |||
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.528 +1.179 -1.358 +1.020 }} | |||
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.8282{{c}} | |||
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.843 -0.780 +1.880 }} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 39d, 41, 80, 121, 283d, 404bd }} | |||
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.46 | |||
=== 11-limit === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 540/539, 896/891, 1375/1372 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 -11 -10 5 | 0 7 26 25 -3 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1835{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.4677{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.8616{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 39d, 41, 80, 121 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 0.987 | |||
==== 13-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 540/539 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 -11 -10 5 16 | 0 7 26 25 -3 -24 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2469{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.4908{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.8684{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 39d, 41, 80, 121 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.06 | |||
===== 17-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | |||
Comma list: 256/255, 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 540/539 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 -11 -10 5 16 21 | 0 7 26 25 -3 -24 -33 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2009{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.4746{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.8813{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 39d, 41, 80, 121 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.09 | |||
===== 19-limit ===== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | |||
Comma list: 190/189, 256/255, 325/324, 352/351, 361/360, 595/594 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 -11 -10 5 16 21 -6 | 0 7 26 25 -3 -24 -33 20 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2833{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.5237{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.8876{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 39d, 41, 80, 121 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.07 | |||
==== Orcus ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 144/143, 196/195, 275/273, 896/891 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 -11 -10 5 -5 | 0 7 26 25 -3 17 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1198.7372{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.2418{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.8502{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 39df, 41, 80f, 121ff }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.38 | |||
=== Plutino === | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11 | |||
Comma list: 100/99, 245/242, 10976/10935 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 -11 -10 -16 | 0 7 26 25 38 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7793{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.6040{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.7074{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 39dee, 41 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.92 | |||
==== 13-limit ==== | |||
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
Comma list: 100/99, 196/195, 245/242, 729/728 | |||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 5 15 15 22 12 | 0 7 26 25 38 17 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | |||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.0328{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.2729{{c}} | |||
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.7277{{c}} | |||
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 39deef, 41 }} | |||
Badness (Sintel): 1.66 | |||
== Slithy == | == Slithy == | ||
Slithy tempers out 420175/419904, the [[wizma]], and may be described as the {{nowrap| 27 & 94 }} temperament with a [[ploidacot]] signature of 17-sheared 19-cot. [[94edo]], [[121edo]] and [[215edo]] can all be used as tunings. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Comma list: 540/539, 2200/2187, 4375/4356 | Comma list: 540/539, 2200/2187, 4375/4356 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -16 -31 -12 -53 | 0 19 36 16 61 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 540/539, 1575/1573 | Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 540/539, 1575/1573 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -16 -31 -12 -53 0 | 0 19 36 16 61 4 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 375/374, 540/539, 595/594 | Comma list: 325/324, 352/351, 375/374, 540/539, 595/594 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -16 -31 -12 -53 0 -57 | 0 19 36 16 61 4 66 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 190/189, 325/324, 352/351, 361/360, 375/374, 595/594 | Comma list: 190/189, 325/324, 352/351, 361/360, 375/374, 595/594 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -16 -31 -12 -53 0 -57 -30 | 0 19 36 16 61 4 66 37 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 190/189, 300/299, 323/322, 325/324, 352/351, 361/360, 484/483 | Comma list: 190/189, 300/299, 323/322, 325/324, 352/351, 361/360, 484/483 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -16 -31 -12 -53 0 -57 -30 -76 | 0 19 36 16 61 4 66 37 87 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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== Tridecatonic == | == Tridecatonic == | ||
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Tridecatonic]] | |||
Tridecatonic has a period of 1/13 octave, and may be described as {{nowrap| 26 & 39 }}. It tempers out [[devil's tridecalimma]], {{monzo| -11 26 -13 }} in the 5-limit. Its [[ploidacot]] is 13-ploid monocot. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Comma list: 99/98, 1944/1925, 2560/2541 | Comma list: 99/98, 1944/1925, 2560/2541 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 13 0 -11 16 45 | 0 1 2 1 0 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 99/98, 144/143, 275/273, 1040/1029 | Comma list: 99/98, 144/143, 275/273, 1040/1029 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 13 0 -11 16 45 7 | 0 1 2 1 0 2 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 100/99, 245/242, 46656/46585 | Comma list: 100/99, 245/242, 46656/46585 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 | 0 -17 -28 -8 -22 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 245/242, 343/338 | Comma list: 100/99, 144/143, 245/242, 343/338 | ||
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 3 3 4 4 | 0 -17 -28 -8 -22 -12 }} | |||
Optimal tunings: | Optimal tunings: | ||
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== Dhaivatic == | == Dhaivatic == | ||
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2023, dhaivatic tempers out the [[rainy comma]] and may be described as the {{nowrap| 15 & 94 }} temperament. Its [[ploidacot]] is epsilon-21-cot. | |||
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | [[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7 | ||
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Badness (Sintel): 1.55 | Badness (Sintel): 1.55 | ||
== References == | |||
[[Category:Octagar temperaments| ]] <!-- main article --> | |||
[[Category:Temperament collections]] | [[Category:Temperament collections]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Catalogs of rank-2 temperaments]] | ||