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Temperaments considered in families and clans are:  
Temperaments considered in families and clans are:  
* ''[[Pelogic]]'' → [[Mavila family #Pelogic|Mavila family]] (+21/20 or 135/128, generated by the fifth with 5/4 mapped to the m3)
* ''[[Pelogic]]'' (+21/20 or 135/128) → [[Mavila family #Pelogic|Mavila family]]
* [[Meantone]] → [[Meantone family #Septimal meantone|Meantone family]] (+81/80 or 126/125, generated by the fifth with 5/4 mapped to the M3)
* [[Meantone]] (+81/80 or 126/125) → [[Meantone family #Septimal meantone|Meantone family]]
* [[Garibaldi]] → [[Schismatic family #Garibaldi|Schismatic family]] (+3125/3087, generated by the fifth with 5/4 mapped to the d4)
* [[Garibaldi]] (+3125/3087) → [[Schismatic family #Garibaldi|Schismatic family]]
* [[Pajara]] → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]] (+50/49 or 64/63, generated by the fifth with a semioctave period)
* [[Pajara]] (+50/49 or 64/63) → [[Diaschismic family #Pajara|Diaschismic family]]
* ''[[Sharpie]]'' → [[Dicot family #Sharpie|Dicot family]] (+25/24 or 28/27, fifth sliced in two)
* ''[[Sharpie]]'' (+25/24 or 28/27) → [[Dicot family #Sharpie|Dicot family]]
* ''[[Immune]]'' → [[Immunity family #Immune|Immunity family]] (+781250/750141, twelfth sliced in two)
* ''[[Immune]]'' (+781250/750141) → [[Immunity family #Immune|Immunity family]]
* ''[[August]]'' → [[Augmented family #August|Augmented family]] (+36/35 or 128/125, generated by the fifth with a 1/3-octave period)
* ''[[August]]'' (+36/35 or 128/125) → [[Augmented family #August|Augmented family]]
* ''[[Fog]]'' → [[Misty family #Fog|Misty family]] (+156250/151263, generated by the fifth with a 1/3-octave period)
* ''[[Fog]]'' (+156250/151263) → [[Misty family #Fog|Misty family]]
* [[Negri]] → [[Slendro clan #Negri|Slendro clan]] (+49/48, fourth sliced in four)
* [[Bunya]] (+15625/15309) → [[Tetracot family #Bunya|Tetracot family]]
* [[Magic]] → [[Magic family #Magic|Magic family]] (+245/243, twelfth sliced in five)
* [[Negri]] (+49/48) → [[Semaphoresmic clan #Negri|Semaphoresmic clan]]
* ''[[Passive]]'' → [[Passion family #Passive|Passion family]] (+256/245, fourth sliced in five)
* [[Magic]] (+245/243) → [[Magic family #Magic|Magic family]]
* ''[[Quintapole]]'' → [[Quintaleap family #Quintapole|Quintaleap family]] (+7812500/7411887, fourth sliced in five)
* ''[[Passive]]'' (+256/245) → [[Passion family #Passive|Passion family]]
* ''[[Houborizic]]'' → [[Amity family #Houborizic|Amity family]] (+1250000/1240029, eleventh sliced in five)
* ''[[Houborizic]]'' (+1250000/1240029) → [[Amity family #Houborizic|Amity family]]
* ''[[Qintosec]]'' → [[Quintosec family #Qintosec|Quintosec family]] (+2560000/2470629, generated by the classical minor second with a 1/5-octave period)
* ''[[Qintosec]]'' (+2560000/2470629) → [[Quintosec family #Qintosec|Quintosec family]]
* [[Miracle]] → [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle|Gamelismic clan]] (+1029/1024, fifth sliced in six)
* [[Miracle]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Miracle|Gamelismic clan]]
* [[Catakleismic]] → [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|Kleismic family]] (+4375/4374, twelfth sliced in six)
* [[Catakleismic]] (+4375/4374) → [[Kleismic family #Catakleismic|Kleismic family]]
* ''[[Marvo]]'' → [[Gravity family #Marvo|Gravity family]] (+78125000/78121827, two octaves and a fifth sliced in six)
* ''[[Marvo]]'' (+78125000/78121827) → [[Gravity family #Marvo|Gravity family]]
* [[Orwell]] → [[Semicomma family #Orwell|Semicomma family]] (+1728/1715, twelfth sliced in seven)
* [[Orwell]] (+1728/1715) → [[Semicomma family #Orwell|Semicomma family]]
* ''[[Snipes]]''  → [[Wesley family #Snipes|Wesley family]] (+6125/5832, two octaves and a fourth sliced in seven)
* ''[[Snipes]]'' (+6125/5832) → [[Wesley family #Snipes|Wesley family]]
* ''[[Submajor]]'' → [[Buzzardsmic clan #Submajor|Buzzardsmic clan]] (+65536/64827, two octaves and a fourth sliced in eight)
* ''[[Demibuzzard]]'' (+65536/64827) → [[Buzzardsmic clan #Demibuzzard|Buzzardsmic clan]]
* ''[[Escapist]]'' → [[Escapade family #Escapist|Escapade family]] (+65625/65536, fourth sliced in nine)
* ''[[Escapist]]'' (+65625/65536) → [[Escapade family #Escapist|Escapade family]]
* ''[[Decic]]'' → [[Cloudy clan #Decic|Cloudy clan]] (+16807/16384, generated by the fifth with a 1/10-octave period)
* ''[[Amavil]]'' (+17496/16807) → [[Mabila family #Amavil|Mabila family]]
* ''[[Amavil]]'' → [[Mabila family #Amavil|Mabila family]] (+17496/16807, four octaves and a fourth sliced in ten)
* ''[[Betic]]'' (+1071875/1062882) → [[Sycamore family #Betic|Sycamore family]]
* ''[[Betic]]'' → [[Sycamore family #Betic|Sycamore family]] (+1071875/1062882, fifth sliced in eleven)
* [[Wizard]] (+118098/117649) → [[Stearnsmic clan #Wizard|Stearnsmic clan]]
* ''[[Hendeca]]'' → [[11th-octave temperaments #Hendeca|11th-octave temperaments]] (+122880/117649, generated by the fifth with a 1/11-octave period)
* ''[[Raccoon]]'' (+41943040/40353607) → [[Vavoom family #Raccoon|Vavoom family]]
* ''[[Compton]]'' → [[Compton family #Compton|Compton family]] (+250047/250000, generated by the classical major third with a 1/12-octave period)
* ''[[Maquila]]'' (+30233088/28824005) → [[Maquila family #Septimal maquila|Maquila family]]
* ''[[Raccoon]]'' → [[Vavoom family #Raccoon|Vavoom family]] (+41943040/40353607, twelfth sliced in seventeen)
* ''[[Gammy]]'' (+94143178827/91913281250) → [[Gammic family #Gammy|Gammic family]]
* ''[[Maquila]]'' → [[Maquila family #Septimal maquila|Maquila family]] (+30233088/28824005, seven octaves and a fifth sliced in seventeen)
* [[Compton]] (+250047/250000) → [[Compton family #Compton|Compton family]]
* ''[[Gammy]]'' → [[Gammic family #Gammy|Gammic family]] (+94143178827/91913281250, fifth sliced in twenty)


Considered below are wizard, tritonic, septimin, slender, triton, merman, marvolo, amavil, enneaportent, alphorn, tertiosec, gwazy, and gracecordial.  
Considered below are tritonic, septimin, merman, slender, triton, marvolo, decic, enneaportent, gracecordial, alphorn, misneb, untriton, naiadical, quintannic, hendeca, gwazy, and tertiosec, in the order of increasing [[badness]].  


Since {{nowrap|(5/4)<sup>2</sup> {{=}} (225/224)⋅(14/9)}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess a version of the augmented triad where each third approximates either 5/4 or 9/7. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.
Since {{nowrap|(5/4)<sup>2</sup> {{=}} (225/224)⋅(14/9)}}, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess a version of the augmented triad where each third approximates either 5/4 or 9/7. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.
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Marvel tempering allows for a tritone substitution whereby the dominant seventh chord formed by adding 16/9 above the root shares its tritone with a 4:5:6:7 tetrad. (The tritone of the dominant seventh is {{nowrap|(16/9)/(5/4) {{=}} 64/45}}. Setting this equal to 10/7 gives {{nowrap|(10/7)/(64/45) {{=}} 225/224}}.)
Marvel tempering allows for a tritone substitution whereby the dominant seventh chord formed by adding 16/9 above the root shares its tritone with a 4:5:6:7 tetrad. (The tritone of the dominant seventh is {{nowrap|(16/9)/(5/4) {{=}} 64/45}}. Setting this equal to 10/7 gives {{nowrap|(10/7)/(64/45) {{=}} 225/224}}.)
== Wizard ==
{{Main| Wizard }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Wizard]].''
Wizard has a [[semi-octave]] period and is generated by an interval that can be treated as [[~]][[17/15]]. The semi-octave complement of this interval is ~[[5/4]]. Wizard can be described as {{nowrap| 22 & 72 }}. Its [[ploidacot]] is diploid alpha-hexacot, so six generator steps plus a semi-octave period gives the [[3/1|perfect twelfth]]. [[72edo]], [[94edo]], and especially [[166edo]] are good tunings for it.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 118098/117649
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 1 5 2 | 0 6 -1 10 }}
: mapping generators: ~1225/864, ~245/216
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~1225/864 = 600.3438{{c}}, ~245/216 = 216.8680{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.688 -0.403 -1.463 +0.541 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~1225/864 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~245/216 = 216.7977{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.169 -3.111 -0.849 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 50, 72, 238c, 310c, 382c, 454bccd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.03
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 4000/3993
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~99/70 = 600.3051{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.8782{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.7961{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50, 72, 166, 238c, 310c }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.613
==== Lizard ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 351/350, 364/363, 385/384
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 11 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/39 = 600.4824{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.7852{{c}}
* CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.6247{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50, 72 }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.900
===== 17-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 221/220, 273/272, 289/288, 351/350, 375/374
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 11 6 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 6 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.5032{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.8002{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.6361{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50, 72 }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.741
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 153/152, 210/209, 221/220, 225/224, 273/272, 343/342
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 11 6 2 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 -10 6 18 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.4698{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.6925{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.5434{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22h, 50, 72, 122g, 194dfg }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.955
==== Gizzard ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 1573/1568
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 -2 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 26 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~99/70 = 600.2896{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.9343{{c}}
* CWE: ~99/70 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~25/22 = 216.8501{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 72, 166, 238cf }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.837
===== 17-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 225/224, 289/288, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 -2 6 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 26 6 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.3227{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.9414{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.8469{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22f, 72, 166g, 238cfg }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.694
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 375/374, 385/384, 400/399, 595/594
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 8 -2 6 15 | 0 6 -1 10 -3 26 6 -18 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.2637{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.9570{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~17/15 = 216.8687{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 72, 94, 166g }}
Badness (Sintel): 0.901
=== Mage ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 1331/1296
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 5 2 4 | 0 6 -1 10 8 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~77/54 = 600.6486{{c}}, ~55/48 = 217.1099{{c}}
* CWE: ~77/54 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~55/48 = 216.9841{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 50e, 72ee }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.91


== Tritonic ==
== Tritonic ==
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Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 441/440
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 441/440


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 8 9 5 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 196/195, 275/273
Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 196/195, 275/273


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 154/153, 196/195, 273/272
Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 154/153, 196/195, 273/272


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 77/76, 105/104, 121/120, 153/152, 196/195, 273/272
Comma list: 77/76, 105/104, 121/120, 153/152, 196/195, 273/272


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 12 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 -15 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 12 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 -15 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 77/76, 105/104, 115/114, 121/120, 153/152, 161/160, 196/195
Comma list: 77/76, 105/104, 115/114, 121/120, 153/152, 161/160, 196/195


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 12 4 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 -15 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 8 9 5 13 17 12 4 | 0 5 -11 -12 -3 -18 -25 -15 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 27783/27500
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 27783/27500


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -1 8 9 -11 | 0 5 -11 -12 28 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -1 8 9 -11 | 0 5 -11 -12 28 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.516 -4.735 -4.790 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.516 -4.735 -4.790 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 41, 91, 132d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 9, 23, 32, 41, 91, 132d }}


[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.38
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Comma list: 225/224, 245/242, 385/384
Comma list: 225/224, 245/242, 385/384


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 7 -5 -2 | 0 11 -6 10 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 7 -5 -2 | 0 11 -6 10 7 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.3906{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.3906{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 91, 223cdef }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 23, 32, 41, 91, 223cdef }}


Badness (Sintel): 1.04
Badness (Sintel): 1.04
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Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 245/242
Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 245/242


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 7 -5 -2 -8 | 0 11 -6 10 7 15 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 7 -5 -2 -8 | 0 11 -6 10 7 15 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.3196{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~12/7 = 936.3196{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 91 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 9, 32f, 41, 91 }}


Badness (Sintel): 0.955
Badness (Sintel): 0.955
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Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1344/1331
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1344/1331


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 10 11 5 | 0 7 -15 -16 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 10 11 5 | 0 7 -15 -16 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.20
Badness (Sintel): 1.20


=== 13-limit ===
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 144/143, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440
Comma list: 144/143, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -2 10 11 5 -5 | 0 7 -15 -16 -3 17 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 10 11 5 -5 | 0 7 -15 -16 -3 17 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 1.14
Badness (Sintel): 1.14
=== Mermaid ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 532400/531441
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 10 11 -16 | 0 7 -15 -16 38 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.4973{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.7004{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.4470{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 84e, 125, 166 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.46
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 10648/10647
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -2 10 11 22 32 | 0 7 -15 -16 38 58 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5126{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.7152{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~10/7 = 614.4562{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 41, 84ef, 125f, 166 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.47


== Slender ==
== Slender ==
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Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 2 3 4 | 0 -13 10 -6 -17 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 2 3 4 | 0 -13 10 -6 -17 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384, 1331/1323
Comma list: 225/224, 275/273, 385/384, 1331/1323


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 2 3 4 3 | 0 -13 10 -6 -17 22 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 2 3 4 3 | 0 -13 10 -6 -17 22 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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== Triton ==
== Triton ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Stump]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–kleismic equivalence continuum #Stump]].''


Triton may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 21 }} temperament. Like [[#Tritonic|tritonic]], it is generated by a [[~]][[10/7]] [[tritone]], but here, three generator steps give the [[interval class]] of [[3/1|3]]. The [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is alpha-tricot.  
Triton may be described as the {{nowrap| 19 & 21 }} temperament. Like [[#Tritonic|tritonic]], it is generated by a [[~]][[10/7]] [[tritone]], but here, three generator steps give the [[interval class]] of [[3/1|3]]. The [[ploidacot]] for this temperament is alpha-tricot.  
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Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 1029/1000
Comma list: 45/44, 56/55, 1029/1000


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 6 7 4 | 0 3 -7 -8 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 6 7 4 | 0 3 -7 -8 -1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 4000/3993
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 4000/3993


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 1 1 2 | 0 -6 19 26 21 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 1 1 2 | 0 -6 19 26 21 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 1 1 2 3 | 0 -6 19 26 21 10 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 1 1 2 3 | 0 -6 19 26 21 10 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 169/168, 221/220, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440
Comma list: 169/168, 221/220, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 1 1 2 3 2 | 0 -6 19 26 21 10 30 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 1 1 2 3 2 | 0 -6 19 26 21 10 30 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Comma list: 169/168, 210/209, 221/220, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440
Comma list: 169/168, 210/209, 221/220, 225/224, 364/363, 441/440


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 2 1 1 2 3 2 3 | 0 -6 19 26 21 10 30 18 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 2 1 1 2 3 2 3 | 0 -6 19 26 21 10 30 18 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
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Badness (Sintel): 0.895
Badness (Sintel): 0.895
== Decic ==
{{Main| Decic }}
Named by [[Xenllium]] in 2021, decic tempers out 16807/16384, the [[cloudy comma]], and {{monzo| 11 -10 -10 10 }}, the [[linus comma]], in addition to the marvel comma. It may be described as the {{nowrap| 50 & 60 }} temperament, with a period of 1/10 octave and a [[ploidacot]] signature of decaploid monocot. It is [[support]]ed by [[10edo|10-]], [[50edo|50-]], and [[60edo]].
It can be extended to the 11-, 13-, and 17-limit by adding [[385/384]], [[105/104]], and [[170/169]] to the comma list in this order.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 16807/16384
{{Mapping|legend=1| 10 0 39 28 | 0 1 -1 0 }}
: mapping generators: ~15/14, ~3
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~15/14 = 120.1837{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.7654{{c}} (~49/48 = 21.3366{{c}})
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.837 -0.353 -0.753 -3.683 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.8236{{c}} (~49/48 = 21.1764{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -3.131 -5.137 -8.826 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 10, 30b, 40, 50, 60, 110d, 170cdd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.26
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 3087/3025
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 3 | 0 1 -1 0 2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1406{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.6075{{c}} (~56/55 = 23.2360{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.0142{{c}} (~56/55 = 22.9858{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 40, 50 }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.11
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 196/195, 2200/2197
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 3 37 | 0 1 -1 0 2 0 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1166{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.6705{{c}} (~78/77 = 23.0289{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.1492{{c}} (~78/77 = 22.8508{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 40, 50 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.52
==== 17-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 170/169, 196/195, 221/220
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 3 37 25 | 0 1 -1 0 2 0 1 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1262{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.8185{{c}} (~78/77 = 22.9388{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2757{{c}} (~78/77 = 22.7243{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 40, 50 }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.28
=== Splendecic ===
Splendecic (50 & 60e) is an alternative extension of decic, tempering out 1617/1600, 2401/2376 and 4375/4356 in the 11-limit. As a temperament of the [[fantastic]] rank-3 temperament, its name is a portmanteau of ''splendid'' and ''decic''.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 1617/1600, 2401/2376
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 82 | 0 1 -1 0 -3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1874{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.6085{{c}} (~99/98 = 21.5156{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.3531{{c}} (~99/98 = 21.6469{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 40e, 50, 60e, 110de, 170cddee }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.98
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 1001/1000, 1188/1183
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 82 37 | 0 1 -1 0 -3 0 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1565{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.2756{{c}} (~91/90 = 21.6631{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.2480{{c}} (~91/90 = 21.7520{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 40e, 50, 60e, 110de }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.57
==== 17-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 105/104, 170/169, 196/195, 289/288, 375/374
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 82 37 25 | 0 1 -1 0 -3 0 1 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1571{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.2892{{c}} (~91/90 = 21.6536{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 698.3144{{c}} (~91/90 = 21.6856{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10e, 50, 60e, 110deg }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.33
=== Prodecic ===
Prodecic (50e & 60e) is an alternative extension of decic, tempering out 441/440, 1375/1372 and 4375/4356 in the 11-limit. As a temperament of the [[prodigy]] rank-3 temperament, its name is a portmanteau of ''prodigy'' and ''decic''.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 5929/5832
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 -13 | 0 1 -1 0 3 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.2024{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3908{{c}} (~55/54 = 19.8237{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.5235{{c}} (~55/54 = 19.4765{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 50e, 60e }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.20
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 275/273, 5929/5832
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 -13 37 | 0 1 -1 0 3 0 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1654{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.4683{{c}} (~91/90 = 19.5242{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7175{{c}} (~91/90 = 19.2825{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 50e, 60e }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.73
==== 17-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 105/104, 154/153, 170/169, 196/195, 289/288
{{Mapping|legend=0| 10 0 39 28 -13 37 25 | 0 1 -1 0 3 0 1 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~15/14 = 120.1577{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.3950{{c}} (~91/90 = 19.5514{{c}})
* CWE: ~15/14 = 120.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.6932{{c}} (~91/90 = 19.3068{{c}})
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 10, 50e, 60e }}
Badness (Sintel): 1.41


== Enneaportent ==
== Enneaportent ==
Line 592: Line 641:
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 12005/11979
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 12005/11979


Mapping: {{mapping| 9 0 28 11 24 | 0 2 -1 2 1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 9 0 28 11 24 | 0 2 -1 2 1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 607: Line 656:
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 364/363, 1716/1715
Comma list: 169/168, 225/224, 364/363, 1716/1715


Mapping: {{mapping| 9 0 28 11 24 19 | 0 2 -1 2 1 2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 9 0 28 11 24 19 | 0 2 -1 2 1 2 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 630: Line 679:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.4904{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1103{{c}}
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.4904{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1103{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.490 -0.354 -1.655 +1.241 }}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.490 -0.354 -1.655 +1.241 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.3333{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8112{{c}}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.8112{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.144 -2.537 +0.349 }}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.144 -2.537 +0.349 }}


Line 642: Line 691:
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 236328125/234365481
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 236328125/234365481


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 -90 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 -90 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 657: Line 706:
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 831875/830466
Comma list: 225/224, 325/324, 385/384, 831875/830466


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 672: Line 721:
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 325/324, 385/384, 4928/4913
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 325/324, 385/384, 4928/4913


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 687: Line 736:
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 1445/1444
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 1445/1444


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 702: Line 751:
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 460/459, 529/528
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 460/459, 529/528


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 -43 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 30 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 -43 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 30 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 717: Line 766:
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 290/289, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 460/459, 494/493
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 290/289, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 460/459, 494/493


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 -43 -49 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 30 34 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 -43 -49 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 30 34 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 732: Line 781:
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 290/289, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 460/459, 465/464, 494/493
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 290/289, 324/323, 325/324, 385/384, 460/459, 465/464, 494/493


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 -43 -49 -79 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 30 34 53 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 -90 -66 -7 9 -43 -49 -79 | 0 1 -20 -38 59 44 7 -3 30 34 53 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 747: Line 796:
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 109375/107811
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 109375/107811


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 89 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 89 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 762: Line 811:
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440, 6125/6084
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440, 6125/6084


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 89 113 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 -69 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 89 113 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 -69 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 777: Line 826:
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 2000/1989
Comma list: 225/224, 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 2000/1989


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 89 113 -7 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 -69 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 89 113 -7 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 -69 7 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 792: Line 841:
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 324/323, 364/363, 400/399, 665/663
Comma list: 210/209, 225/224, 324/323, 364/363, 400/399, 665/663


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 34 63 89 113 -7 9 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 -69 7 -3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 0 34 63 89 113 -7 9 | 0 1 -20 -38 -54 -69 7 -3 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 825: Line 874:
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 12250/11979
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 12250/11979


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -7 5 -9 4 | 0 16 -5 22 -1 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -7 5 -9 4 | 0 16 -5 22 -1 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 860: Line 909:
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 1310720/1294139
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 1310720/1294139


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -12 15 1 27 | 0 15 -14 2 -26 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -12 15 1 27 | 0 15 -14 2 -26 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 875: Line 924:
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 640/637, 847/845
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 640/637, 847/845


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -12 15 1 27 20 | 0 15 -14 2 -26 -18 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -12 15 1 27 20 | 0 15 -14 2 -26 -18 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 890: Line 939:
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 66550/64827
Comma list: 225/224, 385/384, 66550/64827


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 3 1 3 6 | 0 -15 14 -2 -27 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 3 1 3 6 | 0 -15 14 -2 -27 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 927: Line 976:
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 22000/21609
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 22000/21609


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 12 13 6 | 0 9 -19 -20 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -3 12 13 6 | 0 9 -19 -20 -5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 942: Line 991:
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 275/273, 1040/1029
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 275/273, 1040/1029


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 -3 12 13 6 20 | 0 9 -19 -20 -5 -32 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 -3 12 13 6 20 | 0 9 -19 -20 -5 -32 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 1,042: Line 1,091:
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 43923/43750
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 43923/43750


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 7 8 | 0 5 -23 -36 -39 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 7 8 | 0 5 -23 -36 -39 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 1,057: Line 1,106:
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1001/1000, 1188/1183
Comma list: 225/224, 441/440, 1001/1000, 1188/1183


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 7 8 3 | 0 5 -23 -36 -39 6 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 7 8 3 | 0 5 -23 -36 -39 6 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 1,072: Line 1,121:
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 375/374, 441/440, 891/884
Comma list: 225/224, 273/272, 375/374, 441/440, 891/884


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 1 5 7 8 3 7 | 0 5 -23 -36 -39 6 -25 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 1 1 5 7 8 3 7 | 0 5 -23 -36 -39 6 -25 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 1,081: Line 1,130:


Badness (Sintel): 1.17
Badness (Sintel): 1.17
== Hendeca ==
{{Distinguish| Hendec }}
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Hendecatonic]].''
Hendeca tempers out the same 5-limit comma as [[porwell temperaments #Hendecatonic|hendecatonic]], and has a period of 1/11 octave. However, in this temperament, nine periods represent [[7/4]], the same as [[keemic temperaments #Undeka|undeka]]. It can be tuned to [[22edo]] or [[33edo]] using the [[patent val]], or [[55edo]] using the 55d val. It was named by [[Xenllium]] in 2025 as a low-accuracy variant of hendecatonic.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 225/224, 122880/117649
{{Mapping|legend=1| 11 0 43 31 | 0 1 -1 0 }}
: mapping generators: ~16/15, ~3
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~16/15 = 108.9526{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.4215{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -1.521 -1.055 -2.252 +8.705 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~16/15 = 109.0909{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.2071{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +1.252 +1.388 +12.992 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 22, 55d, 77d, 99dd }}
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 4.37
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 352/343
{{Mapping|legend=0| 11 0 43 31 38 | 0 1 -1 0 0 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~16/15 = 109.0109{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.5746{{c}}
* CWE: ~16/15 = 109.0909{{c}}, ~3/2 = 703.0395{{c}}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 22, 55d }}
Badness (Sintel): 2.46


== Gwazy ==
== Gwazy ==
Line 1,109: Line 1,196:
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 65536/65219
Comma list: 99/98, 176/175, 65536/65219


Mapping: {{mapping| 2 1 6 4 8 | 0 8 -5 6 -4 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 2 1 6 4 8 | 0 8 -5 6 -4 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 1,122: Line 1,209:
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Tertiosec]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Tertiosec]].''


Tertiosec may be described as the {{nowrap| 21 & 75 }} temperament. It was initially named ''tertiomar'' by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011<ref name="petr's long post"/>, but was changed to ''tertiosec''.  
Tertiosec may be described as the {{nowrap| 21 & 75 }} temperament. It was initially named ''tertiomar'' by [[Petr Pařízek]] in 2011<ref name="petr's long post"/>, but was changed to ''tertiosec'' in 2012<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_104268.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''2D temperament names, part I -- reclassified temperaments from message #101780'']</ref>.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
Line 1,146: Line 1,233:
Comma list: 225/224, 3840/3773, 12005/11979
Comma list: 225/224, 3840/3773, 12005/11979


Mapping: {{mapping| 3 -1 12 7 14 | 0 8 -7 2 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=0| 3 -1 12 7 14 | 0 8 -7 2 -5 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
Line 1,158: Line 1,245:
== References ==
== References ==


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