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== Theory == | == Theory == | ||
94edo is a remarkable | 94edo is a remarkable well-rounded tuning system, good from low [[prime limit]] to very high prime limit situations. It is the first edo to be [[consistent]] through the [[23-odd-limit]], and no other edo is so consistent until [[282edo|282]] and [[311edo|311]] make their appearance. | ||
Its step size is close to that of [[144/143]], which is consistently represented in this tuning system. | Its step size is close to that of [[144/143]], which is consistently represented in this tuning system. | ||
=== As a tuning of other temperaments === | === As a tuning of other temperaments === | ||
94edo | 94edo is the sum of [[41edo]] and [[53edo]], both of which are not only known for their approximation of [[Pythagorean tuning]], but also support a variety of [[Schismatic family|schismatic temperaments]], like [[Schismatic family#Cassandra|cassandra]] (which is itself a variety of [[Schismatic family#Garibaldi|garibaldi]]), tempering out [[32805/32768]], [[225/224]], and [[385/384]], and tempering together the [[81/80|syntonic]], [[Septimal comma|septimal]], and [[pythagorean comma]] into the same interval. | ||
The list of 23-limit commas it tempers out is huge, and in lower prime limits, it also tempers out [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]], [[5120/5103]] and [[540/539]]. It provides the [[optimal patent val]] for gassormic, the rank-5 temperament tempering out [[275/273]] (despite one edostep being very close in size to this comma), and for a number of other temperaments, such as [[isis]]. | 94edo's fifth is the [[mediant]] of these two edos' fifths; it is ever so slightly sharp of just and only a hair less accurate than 53edo's fifth, but more accurate than 41edo's, and acts as a generator for a highly optimized and high-prime-limit form of cassandra. Few, if any, edos that support schismatic by [[Val|patent val]] have at least as high of a consistency limit as 94edo while also having a fifth that can stack to reach any interval in it. Other non-garibaldi schismatic notable edos in the patent val are [[118edo|118]], [[159edo|159]], [[171edo|171]], [[224edo|224]], and [[460edo|460]]. | ||
The list of 23-limit commas it tempers out is huge (see below), and in lower prime limits, it also tempers out [[3125/3087]], [[4000/3969]], [[5120/5103]] and [[540/539]]. It provides the [[optimal patent val]] for gassormic, the rank-5 temperament tempering out [[275/273]] (despite one edostep being very close in size to this comma), and for a number of other temperaments, such as [[isis]]. | |||
94edo is an excellent edo for [[Carlos Beta]] scale, since the difference between 1 step of Carlos Beta and 5 steps of 94edo is only 0.00314534 cents. | 94edo is an excellent edo for [[Carlos Beta]] scale, since the difference between 1 step of Carlos Beta and 5 steps of 94edo is only 0.00314534 cents. | ||
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! 13-limit | ! 13-limit | ||
! 23-limit | ! 23-limit | ||
![[Ups and downs notation|Ups and downs]] | ! [[Ups and downs notation|Ups and downs]] | ||
! Short-form [[SKULO interval names#WOFED interval names|WOFED]] | ! Short-form [[SKULO interval names#WOFED interval names|WOFED]] | ||
! Long-form WOFED | ! Long-form WOFED | ||
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=== Sagittal === | === Sagittal === | ||
94edo can be notated in [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]] using the [[Sagittal_notation# | 94edo can be notated in [[Sagittal notation|Sagittal]] using the [[Sagittal_notation#Athenian|Athenian set]], with the apotome equal to 9 edosteps and the limma to 7 edosteps. | ||
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;" | ||
! | ! colspan="2" |Steps | ||
!'''0''' | |||
! 1 | |||
| | ! 2 | ||
! 3 | |||
! 4 | |||
! 5 | |||
! 6 | |||
! 7 | |||
! 8 | |||
! '''9''' | |||
|- | |- | ||
! rowspan="2" |Symbol | |||
!Evo | !Evo | ||
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal||//|}}</big> | |||
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|~|(}}</big> | |||
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|/|}}</big> | |||
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|(|(}}</big> | |||
| rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|/|\}}</big> | |||
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal| | | rowspan="2" |<big>{{sagittal|(|)}}</big> | ||
|{{sagittal|(!(}}{{sagittal|#}} | |||
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal| | |{{sagittal|\!}}{{sagittal|#}} | ||
|{{sagittal|~!(}}{{sagittal|#}} | |||
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal | |||
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal| | |||
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|/|}} | |||
| rowspan="2" |{{sagittal|(| | |||
|{{sagittal| | |||
|{{sagittal|#}} | |{{sagittal|#}} | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Revo | !Revo | ||
|{{sagittal| | |<big>{{sagittal|~||(}}</big> | ||
| | |<big>{{sagittal|||\}}</big> | ||
|<big>{{sagittal|(||(}}</big> | |||
|<big>{{sagittal|/||\}}</big> | |||
|{{sagittal|||\}} | |||
|{{sagittal|(||(}} | |||
|{{sagittal|/||\}} | |||
|} | |} | ||
The following enharmonics from the Athenian set are present (comma tempered out): | |||
* {{sagittal|//|}} = {{Sagittal|/|)}} = {{Sagittal|/|\}} ([[325/324]], [[352/351]]) | |||
* {{sagittal|/|}} = {{sagittal||)}} = {{sagittal||\}} ([[225/224]], [[2200/2187]]) | |||
* {{sagittal|)|(}} = {{sagittal|~|(}} ([[3680721/3670016]]) | |||
* {{sagittal|(|}} = {{sagittal|(|(}} ([[5120/5103]]) | |||
* {{sagittal||(}} = {{sagittal||//|}} ([[5120/5103]]) | |||
See [[Sagittal notation#Revo|apotome complements]] for equivalent accidental pairs. | |||
The JI chord 16:17:18:19:20:21:22:23:24:25:26:27:28:30 from D would be written D{{sagittal||//|}}:E{{sagittal|(!!(}}:E{{sagittal||//|}}:F{{sagittal||//|}}:F{{sagittal|||\}}:G{{sagittal|\!}}:G{{sagittal|/|\}}:G{{sagittal|~|||(}}:A{{sagittal||//|}}:A{{sagittal|(|)}}:B{{sagittal|(!)}}:B{{sagittal||//|}}:C{{sagittal|\!}}:C{{sagittal|||\}}. Music that doesn't modulate much in the 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup can be notated by only using {{sagittal|/|}} {{sagittal|/|\}} / {{sagittal|\!}} {{sagittal|\!/}} and their apotome complements; where naturals are used for 3 and 19, {{sagittal|/|}} / {{sagittal|\!}} for 5 and 7, and {{sagittal|/|\}} / {{sagittal|\!/}} for 11 and 13. | |||
== Regular temperament properties == | == Regular temperament properties == | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 2.3 | | 2.3 | ||
| {{ | | {{Monzo| 149 -94 }} | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 }} | ||
| −0.054 | | −0.054 | ||
| 0.054 | | 0.054 | ||
| Line 989: | Line 976: | ||
| 2.3.5 | | 2.3.5 | ||
| 32805/32768, 9765625/9565938 | | 32805/32768, 9765625/9565938 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 218 }} | ||
| +0.442 | | +0.442 | ||
| 0.704 | | 0.704 | ||
| Line 996: | Line 983: | ||
| 2.3.5.7 | | 2.3.5.7 | ||
| 225/224, 3125/3087, 118098/117649 | | 225/224, 3125/3087, 118098/117649 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 }} | ||
| +0.208 | | +0.208 | ||
| 0.732 | | 0.732 | ||
| Line 1,003: | Line 990: | ||
| 2.3.5.7.11 | | 2.3.5.7.11 | ||
| 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323, 2200/2187 | | 225/224, 385/384, 1331/1323, 2200/2187 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 }} | ||
| +0.304 | | +0.304 | ||
| 0.683 | | 0.683 | ||
| Line 1,010: | Line 997: | ||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13 | | 2.3.5.7.11.13 | ||
| 225/224, 275/273, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323 | | 225/224, 275/273, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 }} | ||
| +0.162 | | +0.162 | ||
| 0.699 | | 0.699 | ||
| Line 1,017: | Line 1,004: | ||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | | 2.3.5.7.11.13.17 | ||
| 170/169, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384 | | 170/169, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 }} | ||
| +0.238 | | +0.238 | ||
| 0.674 | | 0.674 | ||
| Line 1,024: | Line 1,011: | ||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | | 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19 | ||
| 170/169, 190/189, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384 | | 170/169, 190/189, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 325/324, 385/384 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 }} | ||
| +0.323 | | +0.323 | ||
| 0.669 | | 0.669 | ||
| Line 1,031: | Line 1,018: | ||
| 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23 | | 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19.23 | ||
| 170/169, 190/189, 209/208, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 300/299, 323/322 | | 170/169, 190/189, 209/208, 225/224, 275/273, 289/288, 300/299, 323/322 | ||
| {{ | | {{Mapping| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 425 }} | ||
| +0.354 | | +0.354 | ||
| 0.637 | | 0.637 | ||
| Line 1,059: | Line 1,046: | ||
| 25/24 | | 25/24 | ||
| [[Betic]] | | [[Betic]] | ||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 7\94 | |||
| 89.36 | |||
| 21/20 | |||
| [[Slithy]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| Line 1,064: | Line 1,057: | ||
| 140.43 | | 140.43 | ||
| 13/12 | | 13/12 | ||
| [[Tsaharuk]] / [[quanic | | [[Tsaharuk]] / [[quanic]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| Line 1,077: | Line 1,070: | ||
| 147/128 | | 147/128 | ||
| [[Septiquarter]] | | [[Septiquarter]] | ||
|- | |||
| 1 | |||
| 25\94 | |||
| 319.15 | |||
| 6/5 | |||
| [[Dhaivatic]] | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | | 1 | ||
| Line 1,114: | Line 1,113: | ||
| [[Kleischismic]] | | [[Kleischismic]] | ||
|} | |} | ||
<nowiki/>* [[Normal | <nowiki/>* [[Normal forms #Equave-reduced-generator form|Octave-reduced form]], reduced to the first half-octave, and [[normal forms #Minimal-generator form|minimal form]] in parentheses if distinct | ||
Temperaments to which 94et can be detempered: | |||
* [[Satin]] ({{nowrap| 94 & 217 }}) | |||
* [[Gariwizmic]] ({{nowrap| 94 & 176 }}) | |||
* {{nowrap| 94 & 422 }} | |||
=== Commas === | |||
94et [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s using its 23-limit patent [[val]], {{val| 94 149 218 264 325 348 384 399 425 }}. | |||
{| class="commatable wikitable center-1 center-2 right-3 center-6" | |||
! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br>limit]] | |||
! [[Ratio]]<ref>Ratios with more than 8 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints</ref> | |||
! [[Cents]] | |||
! [[Monzo]] | |||
! colspan="2" | [[Kite's color notation|Color name]] | |||
! Name(s) | |||
|- | |||
| 3 | |||
| <abbr title="36893488147419103232/36472996377170786403">(90 digits)</abbr> | |||
| 16.22 | |||
| {{Monzo| 149 -94 }} | |||
| Wa-94 | |||
| 94-edo | |||
| [[94-comma]] | |||
|- | |||
| 5 | |||
| [[32805/32768|(10 digits)]] | |||
| 1.95 | |||
| {{Monzo| -15 8 1 }} | |||
| Layo | |||
| Ly | |||
| [[Schisma]] | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[3125/3087]] | |||
| 21.18 | |||
| {{Monzo| 0 -2 5 -3 }} | |||
| Triru-aquinyo | |||
| r<sup>3</sup>y<sup>5</sup> | |||
| Gariboh comma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[4000/3969]] | |||
| 13.47 | |||
| {{Monzo| 5 -4 3 -2 }} | |||
| Rurutriyo | |||
| rry<sup>3</sup> | |||
| Octagar comma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[225/224]] | |||
| 7.71 | |||
| {{monzo| -5 2 2 -1 }} | |||
| Ruyoyo | |||
| ryy | |||
| Marvel comma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| <abbr title="36893488147419103232/36472996377170786403">(12 digits)</abbr> | |||
| 6.59 | |||
| {{monzo| 1 10 0 -6 }} | |||
| Latribiru | |||
| L6r | |||
| Stearnsma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[5120/5103]] | |||
| 5.76 | |||
| {{monzo| 10 -6 1 -1 }} | |||
| Saruyo | |||
| sry | |||
| Hemifamity comma | |||
|- | |||
| 7 | |||
| [[33554432/33480783|(16 digits)]] | |||
| 3.80 | |||
| {{Monzo| 25 -14 0 -1 }} | |||
| Sasaru | |||
| ssr | |||
| [[Garischisma]] | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[385/384]] | |||
| 4.50 | |||
| {{Monzo| -7 -1 1 1 1 }} | |||
| Lozoyo | |||
| 1ozg | |||
| Keenanisma | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[540/539]] | |||
| 3.21 | |||
| {{Monzo| 2 3 1 -2 -1 }} | |||
| Lururuyo | |||
| 1urry | |||
| Swetisma | |||
|- | |||
| 11 | |||
| [[9801/9800]] | |||
| 0.17 | |||
| {{Monzo| -3 4 -2 -2 2 }} | |||
| Bilorugu | |||
| 1oorrgg-2 | |||
| Kalisma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[275/273]] | |||
| 12.64 | |||
| {{Monzo| 0 -1 2 -1 1 -1 }} | |||
| Thuloruyoyo | |||
| 3u1oryy | |||
| Gassorma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[640/637]] | |||
| 8.13 | |||
| {{Monzo| 7 0 1 -2 0 -1 }} | |||
| Thururuyo | |||
| 3urry | |||
| Huntma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[1188/1183]] | |||
| 7.30 | |||
| {{Monzo| 2 3 0 -1 1 -2 }} | |||
| Thuthuloru | |||
| 3uu1or | |||
| Kestrel comma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[325/324]] | |||
| 5.34 | |||
| {{Monzo| -2 -4 2 0 0 1 }} | |||
| Thoyoyo | |||
| 3oyy | |||
| Marveltwin comma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[352/351]] | |||
| 4.93 | |||
| {{Monzo| 5 -3 0 0 1 -1 }} | |||
| Thulo | |||
| 3u1o | |||
| Major minthma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[847/845]] | |||
| 4.09 | |||
| {{Monzo| 0 0 -1 1 2 -2 }} | |||
| Thuthulolozogu | |||
| 3uu1oozg | |||
| Cuthbert comma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[729/728]] | |||
| 2.38 | |||
| {{Monzo| -3 6 0 -1 0 -1 }} | |||
| Lathuru | |||
| L3ur | |||
| Squbema | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[2080/2079]] | |||
| 0.83 | |||
| {{Monzo| 5 -3 1 -1 -1 1 }} | |||
| Tholuruyo | |||
| 3o1ury | |||
| Ibnsinma, sinaisma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[4096/4095]] | |||
| 0.42 | |||
| {{Monzo| 12 -2 -1 -1 0 -1 }} | |||
| Sathurugu | |||
| s3urg | |||
| Minisma | |||
|- | |||
| 13 | |||
| [[4225/4224]] | |||
| 0.41 | |||
| {{Monzo| -7 -1 2 0 -1 2 }} | |||
| Thotholuyoyo | |||
| 3oo1uyy | |||
| Leprechaun comma | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| [[289/288]] | |||
| 6.00 | |||
| {{Monzo| 5 -2 0 0 0 0 2 }} | |||
| Soso | |||
| 17oo | |||
| Semitonisma | |||
|- | |||
| 17 | |||
| [[715/714]] | |||
| 2.42 | |||
| {{Monzo| -1 -1 1 -1 1 1 -1 }} | |||
| Sutholoruyo | |||
| 17u3o1ory | |||
| Septendecimal bridge comma | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| [[361/360]] | |||
| 4.80 | |||
| {{Monzo| -3 -2 -1 0 0 0 0 2 }} | |||
| Nonogu | |||
| 19oog2 | |||
| Go comma | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| [[513/512]] | |||
| 3.38 | |||
| {{Monzo| -9 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 }} | |||
| Lano | |||
| L19o | |||
| Boethius' comma | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| [[1216/1215]] | |||
| 1.42 | |||
| {{Monzo| 6 -5 -1 0 0 0 0 1 }} | |||
| Sanogu | |||
| s19og | |||
| Eratosthenes' comma | |||
|- | |||
| 19 | |||
| [[11859211/11859210|(16 digits)]] | |||
| 0.00 | |||
| {{Monzo| -1 -4 -1 1 -4 1 0 4 }} | |||
| <small>Quadno-athoquadlu-azogu</small> | |||
| <small>9o<sup>4</sup>3o1u<sup>4</sup>zg</small> | |||
| Tredekisma | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| [[300/299]] | |||
| 5.78 | |||
| {{Monzo| 2 1 2 0 0 -1 0 0 -1 }} | |||
| Twethuthuyoyo | |||
| 23u3uyy | |||
| Major naiadvicema | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| [[323/322]] | |||
| 5.37 | |||
| {{Monzo| -1 0 0 -1 0 0 1 1 -1 }} | |||
| Twethunosoru | |||
| 23u19o17or | |||
| Major semivicema | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| [[391/390]] | |||
| 4.43 | |||
| {{Monzo| -1 -1 -1 0 0 -1 1 0 1 }} | |||
| Twethosothugu | |||
| 23o17o3ug | |||
| Minor naiadvicema | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| [[460/459]] | |||
| 3.77 | |||
| {{Monzo| 2 -3 1 0 0 0 -1 0 1 }} | |||
| Twethosuyo | |||
| 23o17uy | |||
| Scanisma, vicewolf comma | |||
|- | |||
| 23 | |||
| [[484/483]] | |||
| 3.58 | |||
| {{Monzo| 2 -1 0 -1 2 0 0 0 -1 }} | |||
| Twethuloloru | |||
| 23u1oor | |||
| Pittsburghisma | |||
|} | |||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
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* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HMD8QFpB2-U ''94edo improv''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HMD8QFpB2-U ''94edo improv''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPQ_tPsvzQ ''Waltz in 94edo''] (2025) | * [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPQ_tPsvzQ ''Waltz in 94edo''] (2025) | ||
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KJ5dbF4aH2A ''Twinleaf Town - Pokémon Diamond and Pearl (microtonal cover in 94edo)''] (2026) | |||
; [[Eufalesio]] | ; [[Eufalesio]] | ||