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The head of the '''starling family''' is starling, which tempers out [[126/125]], the starling comma or septimal semicomma. Starling has a normal list basis of [2, 3, 5]; hence a 5-limit scale can be converted to starling simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent starling tuning, is given by [[77edo]]. Other possible tunings are [[108edo]] and [[185edo]], and the nonpatent [[135edo]] val {{val| 135 214 314 379 }} (135c).


In starling, (6/5)<sup>3</sup> = 126/125 × 12/7, and minor thirds/major sixths are low complexity intervals. A suitable 5-limit scale to temper via starling will be one where there are chains of minor thirds. Starling has a 6/5-6/5-6/5-7/6 versions of the diminished seventh chord which is very characteristic of it. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as three stacked minor thirds and an augmented second, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of four stacked very flat minor thirds.
The '''starling family''' of [[rank-3 temperament|rank-3]] [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[starling comma]] ([[ratio]]: 126/125, {{monzo|legend=1| 1 2 -3 1 }}), also known as ''septimal semicomma''.  


Because no appreciable tuning accuracy is lost by including [[1029/1024]] along with 126/125 in the comma list, which leads to [[valentine]], there is a close relationship between the two. Even if tempering a 5-limit scale, one can assume valentine tempering.
== Starling ==
{{Main| Starling and thrush }}


Temperaments discussed elsewhere include
The head of the starling family is starling, which tempers out 126/125. Starling has a normal generator list of {2, 3, 5}; hence a [[5-limit]] scale can be converted to starling simply by tempering it. One way to do that, and an excellent starling tuning, is given by [[77edo]]. Other possible tunings are [[108edo]] and [[185edo]], and [[135edo]] in the nonpatent 135c val {{val| 135 214 '''314''' 379 }}.
* ''[[Erato]]'' (+81/80) → [[Didymus rank-3 family #Erato|Didymus rank-3 family]]
* ''[[Sensigh]]'' (+245/243) → [[Sensamagic family #Sensigh|Sensamagic family]]
* ''[[Oxpecker]]'' (+121/120) → [[Biyatismic clan #Oxpecker|Biyatismic clan]]
* ''[[Cuckoo]]'' (+243/242) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Cuckoo|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]


Considered below are starling, thrush, thrasher, aplonis, and treecreeper.  
Because no appreciable tuning accuracy is lost by including [[1029/1024]] along with 126/125 in the comma list, which leads to [[valentine]], there is a close relationship between the two. Even if tempering a 5-limit scale, one can assume valentine tempering.
 
== Starling ==
{{Main| Starling and thrush }}


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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[[Minkowski lattice basis]]:  
[[Minkowski lattice basis]]:  
: ~6/5 length = 1.068, ~5/4 length = 1.206
: ~6/5 length = 1.068, ~5/4 length = 1.206
: angle (~6/5, ~5/4) = 100.364 degrees
: angle (~6/5, ~5/4) = 100.364°
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.7931{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.1306{{c}}, ~5/4 = 390.0298{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.207 -1.031 +3.302 -1.618 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.0811{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.8833{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.874 +3.570 -1.338 }}


[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 8d, 12, 19, 27, 31, 46, 58, 77, 135c, 166c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 8d, 12, 19, 27, 31, 46, 58, 77, 135c, 166c }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.0699 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.308


[[Projection pair]]: <code>7 125/18</code>
[[Projection pair]]: <code>7 125/18</code>
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}}


== Undecimal starling ==
=== Overview to extensions ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include
 
* ''[[Erato]]'' (+81/80) → [[Didymus rank-3 family #Erato|Didymus rank-3 family]]
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 385/384
* ''[[Sensigh]]'' (+245/243) → [[Sengic family #Sensigh|Sengic family]]
 
* ''[[Oxpecker]]'' (+121/120) → [[Biyatismic clan #Oxpecker|Biyatismic clan]]
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -1 8 | 0 1 0 -2 3 | 0 0 1 3 -4 }}
* ''[[Cuckoo]]'' (+243/242) → [[Rastmic rank-3 clan #Cuckoo|Rastmic rank-3 clan]]
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 15, 19, 27, 31, 46, 77, 96d, 127d, 173d, 204de }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.677 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Considered below are thrush, starnova, thrasher, aplonis, and treecreeper.  


== Thrush ==
== Thrush ==
{{Main| Starling and thrush }}
{{Main| Starling and thrush }}
Thrush is the main extension of starling into the [[11-limit]]. It may be described as 12 & 15 & 31, and is loosely [[associated temperament|associated]] with [[myna]].


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
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Lattice basis:  
Lattice basis:  
: ~5/4 length = 0.8576, ~6/5 length = 0.9314
: ~5/4 length = 0.8576, ~6/5 length = 0.9314
: angle(~5/4, ~6/5) = 74.6239 degrees
: angle(~5/4, ~6/5) = 74.6239°
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.4742{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.6379{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.0192{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.526 -0.843 +3.654 -0.621 -1.075 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.6298{{c}}, ~5/4 = 390.8558{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.325 +4.542 +0.482 -0.298 }}


[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 15, 19e, 27e, 31, 46, 58, 89, 135c, 193c, 224c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 15, 19e, 27e, 31, 46, 58, 89, 135c, 193c, 224c }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.353 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.424
 
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 125/18 11 3125/288</code>


[[Associated temperament]]: [[myna]]
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 125/18</code> <code>11 3125/288</code>


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 0 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -5 | 0 0 1 3 5 5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 0 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -5 | 0 0 1 3 5 5 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2727{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.2858{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.3567{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 702.4562{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.2080{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 27e, 31, 46, 58, 104c, 135c, 193cf }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 27e, 31, 46, 58, 104c, 135c, 193cf }}


Badness (Smith): 0.677 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.633


=== Bluebird ===
=== Bluebird ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 9 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 3 5 -5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 9 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 3 5 -5 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 15, 27e, 31, 43, 58, 147cf, 205cceff, 263ccdeefff }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1198.7153{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.647{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.9180{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.6263{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.7786{{c}}


Badness (Smith): 0.915 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 15, 27e, 31, 43, 58, 205cceff, 263ccdeefff }}


Projection pairs: 7 125/18 11 3125/288 13 41472/3125
Badness (Sintel): 0.856
 
Projection pairs: <code>7 125/18</code> <code>11 3125/288</code> <code>13 41472/3125</code>


=== Nightingale ===
=== Nightingale ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 -4 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -1 | 0 0 1 3 5 4 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 -4 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -1 | 0 0 1 3 5 4 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.1476{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.2886{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.2054{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 699.2840{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.2437{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 15, 19e, 27eff, 31 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 15, 19e, 27eff, 31 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.837 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.783


=== Veery ===
=== Veery ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 2 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 3 5 -2 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -5 2 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 3 5 -2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7998{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.4117{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.7571{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.3959{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.6910{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 15, 19e, 27e, 31f, 46 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 15, 19e, 27e, 31f, 46 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.991 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.927
 
== Starnova ==
Starnova tempers out [[385/384]]. This temperament used to be known as ''undecimal starling'', but was decanonicalized in 2026. The name ''starnova'' was proposed by [[Flora Canou]] after [[Gene Ward Smith]]'s [[Star]] and [[Nova]] scales.
 
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
 
[[Comma list]]: 126/125, 385/384
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -1 8 | 0 1 0 -2 3 | 0 0 1 3 -4 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1200.6133{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.4314{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.3236{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +0.613 -0.910 +3.237 -2.878 -1.478 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.4020{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.3631{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.553 +2.049 -4.541 -3.564 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 15, 19, 27, 31, 46, 77, 96d, 127d, 173d, 204de }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.813
 
[[Projection pair]]s: <code>7 125/18</code> <code>11 6912/625</code>
 
Scales: [[Star and Nova]]
 
=== 13-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 126/125, 196/195, 385/384
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 8 0 | 0 1 0 -2 3 -5 | 0 0 1 3 -4 5 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1200.5083{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.7452{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.4655{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.5708{{c}}, ~5/4 = 388.4346{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 15f, 19, 27, 31, 46, 77, 96d }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.07


== Thrasher ==
== Thrasher ==
{{See also| Ptolemismic clan #Thrasher }}
{{See also| Ptolemismic clan }}


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7.11
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Lattice basis:  
Lattice basis:  
: ~6/5 length = 0.9089, ~5/4 length = 1.2007
: ~6/5 length = 0.9089, ~5/4 length = 1.2007
: angle (~6/5, ~5/4) = 98.8447
: angle (~6/5, ~5/4) = 98.8447°
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1196.9183{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.1793{{c}}, ~5/4 = 394.5223{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -3.082 +1.143 +2.045 -6.863 +13.041 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 706.2523{{c}}, ~5/4 = 392.7970{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +4.297 +6.483 -2.940 +21.771 }}


[[Minimax tuning]]:  
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
* [[11-odd-limit]]
* [[11-odd-limit]]
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 1 3/4 0 1/4 -3/8 }}, {{monzo| 1 1/2 0 1/2 -1/4 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 1 0 }}, {{monzo| 2 -1/2 0 1/2 1/4 }}]
: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 1 3/4 0 1/4 -3/8 }}, {{monzo| 1 1/2 0 1/2 -1/4 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 0 1 0 }}, {{monzo| 2 -1/2 0 1/2 1/4 }}]
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7.11/9
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.7.11/9


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 8d, 12, 15, 19, 27e }} *
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 8d, 12, 15, 19, 27e }} *
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<nowiki>*</nowiki> [[optimal patent val]]: [[34edo|34]]
<nowiki>*</nowiki> [[optimal patent val]]: [[34edo|34]]


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.480 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.577


Scales: [[Thrasher chromatic]], [[Thrasher diatonic]]
Scales: [[Thrasher chromatic]], [[Thrasher diatonic]]
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 2 2 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 3 2 -2 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 2 2 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 4 | 0 0 1 3 2 -2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1197.4723{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.3847{{c}}, ~5/4 = 394.2040{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 707.1440{{c}}, ~5/4 = 392.7909{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 8d, 12, 15, 19, 27e, 69bceef }} *
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 8d, 12, 15, 19, 27e, 69bceef }} *
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<nowiki>*</nowiki> optimal patent val: [[34edo|34]]
<nowiki>*</nowiki> optimal patent val: [[34edo|34]]


Badness (Smith): 0.876 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.820


=== Mockingbird ===
=== Mockingbird ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 2 3 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -1 | 0 0 1 3 2 1 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 2 3 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -1 | 0 0 1 3 2 1 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1193.3128{{c}}, ~3/2 = 710.0779{{c}}, ~5/4 = 400.7221{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 711.2922{{c}}, ~5/4 = 398.0867{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 8d, 12f, 15, 27eff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 8d, 12f, 15, 27eff }}


Badness (Smith): 0.859 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.804


=== Catbird ===
=== Catbird ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 2 0 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -5 | 0 0 1 3 2 5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 2 0 | 0 1 0 -2 -2 -5 | 0 0 1 3 2 5 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1196.8488{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.8749{{c}}, ~5/4 = 394.9837{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.9205{{c}}, ~5/4 = 393.2290{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7df, 8d, 12f, 19, 27e, 66cdeeef }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7df, 8d, 12f, 19, 27e, 66cdeeef }}


Badness (Smith): 0.905 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.846


== Aplonis ==
== Aplonis ==
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -1 4 | 0 1 0 -2 7 | 0 0 1 3 -5 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -1 4 | 0 1 0 -2 7 | 0 0 1 3 -5 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1199.6006{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.5746{{c}}, ~5/4 = 390.2558{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -0.399 -1.780 +3.143 -0.406 +1.026 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 700.4342{{c}}, ~5/4 = 389.9796{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.521 +3.666 +0.244 +1.824 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 19, 27e, 31, 58, 89, 197c, 228c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12e, 19, 27e, 31, 58, 89, 197c, 228c }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.648 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.778


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 4 0 | 0 1 0 -2 7 -5 | 0 0 1 3 -5 5 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 4 0 | 0 1 0 -2 7 -5 | 0 0 1 3 -5 5 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.0609{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.2333{{c}}, ~5/4 = 390.8385{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 701.0203{{c}}, ~5/4 = 390.2413{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 8d, 19, 27e, 31, 50, 58, 166cef, 224ceeff }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 8d, 19, 27e, 31, 50, 58, 166cef, 224ceeff }}


Badness (Smith): 0.821 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 0.768


== Treecreeper ==
== Treecreeper ==
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -1 -3 | 0 1 0 -2 7 | 0 0 1 3 -2 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 0 -1 -3 | 0 1 0 -2 7 | 0 0 1 3 -2 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1198.8957{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.9055{{c}}, ~5/4 = 392.8725{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| -1.104 +1.846 +4.350 -3.332 -2.725 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 705.0045{{c}}, ~5/4 = 392.3159{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +3.050 +6.002 -1.887 -0.918 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 12e, 19e, 27e, 39d, 46, 119c }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 7d, 12e, 19e, 27e, 39d, 46, 119c }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 1.585 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 1.91


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -3 2 | 0 1 0 -2 7 4 | 0 0 1 3 -2 -2 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 0 -1 -3 2 | 0 1 0 -2 7 4 | 0 0 1 3 -2 -2 }}
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1199.7878{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.6703{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.3513{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 704.7011{{c}}, ~5/4 = 391.2846{{c}}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 12e, 19e, 27e, 46 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 7d, 12e, 19e, 27e, 46 }}


Badness (Smith): 1.588 × 10<sup>-3</sup>
Badness (Sintel): 1.48


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