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The '''trienstonic clan''' of [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[temperament]]s are low-complexity, high-error temperaments that [[tempering out|temper out]] [[28/27]], the septimal third-tone or trienstonic comma. This equates very different intervals with each other; in particular, [[9/8]] with [[7/6]], [[8/7]] with [[32/27]], and [[4/3]] with [[9/7]]. Trienstonian is close to the edge of what can be sensibly called a temperament at all; in other words, it is an [[exotemperament]].
The '''trienstonic clan''' of [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[temperament]]s are low-complexity, high-error temperaments that [[tempering out|temper out]] [[28/27]], the septimal third-tone or trienstonic comma. This equates very different intervals with each other; in particular, [[9/8]] with [[7/6]], [[8/7]] with [[32/27]], and [[4/3]] with [[9/7]]. Trienstonian is close to the edge of what can be sensibly called a temperament at all; in other words, it is an [[exotemperament]].


Adding 16/15 to 28/27 leads to father, 256/245 gives uncle, 50/49 gives octokaidecal, and 35/32 gives wallaby. Other members of the clan discussed elsewhere are:
== Trienstonian ==
* ''[[Sharptone]]'' (+21/20) [[Meantone family #Sharptone|Meantone family]]
This low-accuracy temperament is generated by a fifth, tuned very sharp such that a stack of three reach a ~7/4. [[5edo]] is the tuning that conflates 7/6~9/8 (+2 generator steps) with ~8/7 (-3 generator steps). If you do not care about the intervals of 9 in this temperament, you can tune the fifth sharper for the [[7-odd-limit]], leading to an [[5L 3s|oneirotonic]] scale or otherwise a [[5L 2s|diatonic]] scale with negative small steps. A tuning that prioritizes the 7-odd-limit also tunes the fifth sharper than the [[pentic]] range, instead generating an [[antipentic]] scale. Trienstonian can be considered the [[2.3.7 subgroup|2.3.7]] analog of [[mavila]] temperament, with extremely sharp fifths rather than extremely flat ones, being on the other side of 3\5 from [[archy]] fifths, just like how mavila fifths are on the other side of 4\7 from [[meantone]] fifths.
* ''[[Wallaby]]'' (+35/32) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Wallaby|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* ''[[Sharpie]]'' (+25/24) → [[Dicot family #Sharpie|Dicot family]]
* ''[[Mite]]'' (+27/25) → [[Bug family #Mite|Bug family]]
* ''[[Inflated]]'' (+128/125) → [[Augmented family #Inflated|Augmented family]]
* ''[[Opossum]]'' (+126/125) → [[Porcupine family #Opossum|Porcupine family]]
* [[Blackwood]] (+49/48) → [[Limmic temperaments #Blackwood|Limmic temperaments]]


== Trienstonian ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.7


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{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 -2 | 0 1 3 }}
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 -2 | 0 1 3 }}


{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 0 -2 | 0 1 0 3 }}
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3
{{Mapping|legend=3| 1 0 0 -2 | 0 1 0 3 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
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[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.235
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.235


== Father ==
=== Overview to extensions ===
{{Main| Father }}
Adding 16/15 to 28/27 leads to father, 21/20 gives sharptone, 256/245 gives uncle, and 35/32 gives wallaby. These all use the same generators as trienstonian.


See [[Father family #Septimal father]].
50/49 gives octokaidecal with a semi-octave period. 25/24 gives sharpie; 27/25 gives mite. Those split the generator in two. 1029/1000 gives parakangaroo; 126/125 gives opossum. Those split the generator in three. 128/125 gives inflated with a 1/3-octave period. Finally, 49/48 gives blackwood, with a 1/5-octave period.
 
Members of the clan discussed elsewhere are:
 
* [[Antonian]] (+10/9 or +15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Septimal antonian|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* [[Father]] (+16/15) → [[Father family #Septimal father|Father family]]
* ''[[Sharptone]]'' (+21/20) → [[Meantone family #Sharptone|Meantone family]]
* ''[[Sharpie]]'' (+25/24) → [[Dicot family #Sharpie|Dicot family]]
* ''[[Mite]]'' (+27/25) → [[Bug family #Mite|Bug family]]
* ''[[Wallaby]]'' (+35/32) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Wallaby|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
* [[Blackwood]] (+49/48) → [[Blackwood family #Blackwood|Blackwood family]]
* ''[[Opossum]]'' (+126/125) → [[Porcupine family #Opossum|Porcupine family]]
* ''[[Inflated]]'' (+128/125) → [[Augmented family #Inflated|Augmented family]]
 
Considered below are uncle, octokaidecal, and parakangaroo.


== Uncle ==
== Uncle ==
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum #Uncle (5-limit)]].''
 
Uncle tempers out 256/245, mapping the interval class of 5 to -6 generator steps, as a major 2-step in oneirotonic or a diminished fifth in diatonic.


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[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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== Octokaidecal ==
== Octokaidecal ==
The 5-limit [[restriction]] of octokaidecal is supersharp, which tempers out [[800/729]], the difference between the [[27/20]] wolf fourth and the [[40/27]] wolf fifth, splitting the octave into two 27/20~40/27 semioctaves. It generally requires a very sharp fifth, even sharper than 3\5, as a generator. This means that five steps from the [[generator sequence #JI scales obtained from guided generator sequences|Zarlino generator sequence]] starting with 6/5 are tempered to one and a half octaves. The only reasonable 7-limit extension adds 28/27 and 50/49 to the comma list, taking advantage of the existing semioctave.
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Supersharp]].''
 
Octokaidecal extends trienstonian by tempering out [[50/49]], thus splitting the octave in half. It generates the [[8L 2s]] (taric) mos scale, with tunings on the other side of [[10edo]] as [[2L 8s]] (jaric). Compared to [[pajara]], decatonic thirds ([[8/7]] and [[7/6]]) and fourths ([[6/5]] and [[5/4]]) have their mappings reversed, meaning octokaidecal can be considered what is to pajara as [[mavila]] is to [[meantone]].
=== 5-limit (supersharp) ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
 
[[Comma list]]: 800/729
 
{{Mapping|legend=1| 2 0 -5 | 0 1 3 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~27/20, ~3
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~27/20 = 596.986{{c}}, ~3/2 = 725.434{{c}} (~10/9 = 128.448{{c}})
: [[error map]]: {{val| -6.029 +17.450 -13.027 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~27/20 = 600.000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 726.548{{c}} (~10/9 = 126.548{{c}})
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +24.593 -6.670 }}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 8, 10, 18, 28b }}
 
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 2.88


=== 7-limit ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


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== Parakangaroo ==
== Parakangaroo ==
: ''For the 5-limit version of this temperament, see [[High badness temperaments #Kangaroo]].''
: ''For the 5-limit version, see [[Miscellaneous 5-limit temperaments #Kangaroo]].''


This temperament used to be known as '''kangaroo'''.  
This temperament used to be known as ''kangaroo'', but was decanonicalized in 2024 in favor of a more accurate extension. It splits the perfect twelfth into three generators of ~10/7; its ploidacot is alpha-tricot. [[15edo]] shows us an obvious tuning.  


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