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The '''meantone family''' is the family of [[rank-2 temperament]]s that [[tempering out|temper out]] the syntonic comma, [[81/80]], and thus can all be seen as [[extension]]s of [[meantone]].  
The [[5-limit]] parent [[Comma|comma]] of the [[meantone]] family is the Didymus or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntonic_comma|syntonic comma]], 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzo]] for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1&gt;, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]], &lt;&lt;1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval.


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 696.239
== Meantone ==
{{Main| Meantone }}


[[Map]]: [&lt;1 0 -4|, &lt;0 1 4|]
Meantone is characterized by an [[octave]] [[period]], a [[3/2|fifth]] [[generator]], and the relationship that four fifths go to make up a [[5/1|5th harmonic]].
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[7edo|7]], [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], [[31edo|31]], [[50edo|50]], [[81edo|81]]
[[Badness]]: 0.00736


==Seven limit children==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
The [[7-limit]] children of 81/80 are septimal meantone, with normal comma list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-13 10 0 -1&gt;], flattone, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-17 9 0 1&gt;], dominant, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |6 -2 0 -1&gt;], sharptone, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |2 -3 0 1&gt;], injera, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-7 8 0 -2&gt;], mohajira, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-23 11 0 2&gt;], godzilla, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-4 -1 0 2&gt;], mothra, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-10 1 0 3&gt;], squares, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-3 9 0 -4&gt;], and liese, with normal list [|-4 4 -1&gt;, |-9 11 0 -3&gt;].


=Septimal meantone=
[[Comma list]]: 81/80
The comma |-13 10 0 -1&gt; for septimal meantone tells us that the interval class for 7 is 10 generator steps up. Hence, the [[7_4|7/4]] of septimal meantone is the augmented sixth, C-A#, and other septimal intervals are 7/6, C-D#, the augmented second, and [[7_5|7/5]], C-F#, the tritone. The [[Wedgies and Multivals|wedgie]] for septimal meantone is &lt;&lt;1 4 10 4 13 12||, again telling us how to get to 5 and 7 in terms of generator steps. The temperament, aside from what is on the normal list, tempers out 126/125 and 225/224, and [[31edo]] is a good tuning for it.


[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 126/125
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 | 0 1 4 }}


7 and [[9-limit]] minimax
: mapping generators: ~2, ~3
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0&gt;, |-3 0 5/2 0&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 696.495
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.3906{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.0455{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.391 -3.519 +1.868 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.6512{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -5.304 +0.291 }}


Algebraic generator: Cybozem, the real root of 15x^3-10x^2-18, which comes to 503.4257 cents. The recurrence converges quickly.
[[Minimax tuning]]:  
* [[5-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 0 0 1/4 }} (1/4-comma)
: [[Eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5


[[Map]]: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13|, &lt;0 1 4 10|]
[[Tuning ranges]]:  
[[Generator]]s: 2, 3
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [685.714, 720.000] (4\7 to 3\5)
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;1 4 10 4 13 12||
* 5-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [694.786, 701.955] (1/3-comma to Pyth.)
EDOs: [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], [[31edo|31]], [[81edo|81]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0137


==Unidecimal meantone aka Huygens==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 7, 12, 19, 31, 50, 81, 131b }}
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 126/125, 99/98


[[11-limit]] minimax
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.173
[|1 0 0 0 0&gt;, |25/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16&gt;, |9/4 -1/2 0 0 1/4&gt;,
|21/8 -5/4 0 0 5/8&gt;, |25/8 -9/4 0 0 9/8&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 11/9


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 696.967
=== Overview to extensions ===
The second comma of the normal comma list defines which [[7-limit]] family member we are looking at.
* Flattertone adds {{monzo| -24 17 0 -1 }}, finding the [[~]][[7/4]] at the double-augmented sixth, for a tuning between 33edo and 26edo.
* Flattone adds {{monzo| -17 9 0 1 }}, finding the ~7/4 at the diminished seventh, for a tuning between 26edo and 19edo.
* Septimal meantone adds [[Harrison's comma|{{monzo| -13 10 0 -1 }}]], finding the ~7/4 at the augmented sixth, for a tuning between 19edo and 12edo.
* Dominant adds [[64/63|{{monzo| 6 -2 0 -1 }}]], finding the ~7/4 at the minor seventh, for a tuning between 12edo and 5edo.
* Sharptone adds [[28/27|{{monzo| 2 -3 0 1 }}]], finding the ~7/4 at the major sixth, for an [[exotemperament]] never exactly well-tuned, and where 5edo is the only [[diamond monotone]] tuning, with a terrible 5-limit part.
Those all have a fifth as generator.
* Injera adds {{monzo| -7 8 0 -2 }} with a half-octave period.
* Mohajira adds {{monzo| -23 11 0 2 }} and splits the fifth in two.
* Godzilla adds [[49/48|{{monzo| -4 -1 0 2 }}]] with an ~[[8/7]] generator, two of which give the [[4/3|fourth]].
* Mothra adds [[1029/1024|{{monzo| -10 1 0 3 }}]] with an ~8/7 generator, three of which give the fifth.
* Liese adds {{monzo| -9 11 0 -3 }} with a ~[[10/7]] generator, three of which give the [[3/1|twelfth]].
* Squares adds {{monzo| -3 9 0 -4 }} with a ~[[9/7]] generator, four of which give the [[8/3|eleventh]].
* Jerome adds {{monzo| 3 7 0 -5 }} and slices the fifth in five.


[[Algebraic generator]]: Traverse, the positive real root of x^4+2x-13, or 696.9529 cents.
==== Strong extensions ====
For any meantone generator tuning between 7\12 and 11\19, the augmented sixth is sharper than the diminished seventh and flatter than the minor seventh, befitting an approximation to interval class of 7. This coincides with interpreting the tritone (~9/8)<sup>3</sup> as [[7/5]], leading to septimal meantone, a very elegant extension to the 7-limit.  


[[Map]]: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13 -25|, &lt;0 1 4 10 18|]
For any tuning flatter than 11\19, the augmented sixth and diminished seventh swap their orders, so the diminished seventh becomes a better approximation to the interval class of 7, resulting in flattone. Likewise, for any tuning sharper than 7\12, the minor seventh is the proper approximation instead, resulting in dominant.  
[[Generator]]s: 2, 3
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[12edo|12]], [[31edo|31]], [[105edo|105]], [[198edo|198]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0170


===Tridecimal meantone===
Another way to extend meantone to higher limits involves decomposing the meantone comma into products of smaller commas, or expressing some other comma of interest in terms of the ratio between the meantone comma and another comma. However, this often results in [[weak extension]]s. Another opportunity given by the meantone fifth being flat is that the most obvious ways of dividing it into ''n'' parts leave the part closer to just than usual, because we can allow – and indeed want – more flatwards tempering on the fifth, so may be recommended for this reason.
[[Comma]]s: 66/65, 81/80, 99/98, 105/104


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 696.642
==== Splitting the meantone fifth into two (243/242) ====
By tempering out [[243/242]] we equate the distance from 9/8 to 10/9 (= [[81/80|S9]]) with the distance between 11/10 to 12/11 (= [[121/120|S11]]), leading to [[mohaha]] which is in some sense thus a trivial tuning of [[rastmic]] (as 81/80 and 121/120 vanish), but an important one, as it leads to the 11/9 being a more in-tune "hemififth" than in non-meantone [[rastmic]] temperaments (which require sharper fifths in good tunings), and it has a natural extension to the full [[11-limit]] by finding [[7/4]] as the semi-diminished seventh, leading to [[mohajira]], which inflates [[64/63]] to equate it with a small quarter-tone, which is characteristic. Mohajira can also be thought of as equating a slightly sharpened [[25/16|(5/4)<sup>2</sup>]] with [[11/7]], which is also natural as meantone tempering usually has [[5/4]] slightly sharp. There is also the consideration that tempering out [[121/120]] leads to similarly high damage in the 11-limit as tempering [[81/80]] in the 5-limit, because both erase key distinctions of their respective JI subgroups.


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13 -25 -20|, &lt;0 1 4 10 18 15|]
==== Splitting the meantone fifth into three (1029/1024) ====
EDOs: [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], [[31edo|31]], [[267edo|267]], [[298edo|298]]
By tempering out [[1029/1024]] we equate the distance from 7/6 to 8/7 (= [[49/48|S7]]) with the distance from 8/7 to 9/8 (= [[64/63|S8]]), so that ([[8/7]])<sup>3</sup> is equated with [[3/2]], because of being able to be rewritten as (9/8)(8/7)(7/6) – this observation can be generalized to define the family of [[ultraparticular]] commas. This is an unusually natural extension, with a surprising coincidence: ([[36/35]])/([[64/63]]) = [[81/80]], or using the shorthand notation, S6/S8 = S9. As S6/S8 is already tempered out, it is natural to want [[49/48]] (S7), which is bigger than S8 and smaller than S6 to be equated with both, to avoid inconsistent mappings. This has the surprising consequence of meaning that splitting the meantone fifth into three 8/7's is equivalent to splitting 8/5 into three 7/6's by tempering (8/5)/(7/6)<sup>3</sup> = [[1728/1715]] (S6/S7), the orwellisma.
[[Badness]]: 0.0180


===Grosstone===
This strategy leads to the 7-limit version of [[mothra]], which is also sometimes called '''cynder'''. Though undecimal mothra is the simplest extension by a small margin, when measured in terms of generators required to reach 11, there is another extension that is perhaps more obvious, by noticing that because we have S6~S7~S8 with S9 tempered out, we can try S8~S10 by tempering out [[176/175]] (S8/S10), which is (11/7)/(5/4)<sup>2</sup>, taking advantage of 10/9 being tempered sharp in meantone so that we can distinguish 11/10 from it, thus finding 16/11 at 100/99 above the meantone diminished fifth, ([[6/5]])<sup>2</sup> = [[36/25]] = ([[3/2]])/([[25/24]]).
Commas: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 697.264
==== 31edo as splitting the fifth into two, three and nine ====
[[31edo]] is unique as combining all aforementioned tempering strategies into one elegant [[11-limit]] meantone temperament; it also combines yet more extensions of meantone not discussed here, and it has a very accurate [[5/4]] and [[7/4]] and an even more accurate [[35/32]]. A tempering strategy not mentioned is splitting a flattened [[3/2]] into nine sharpened [[25/24]]'s, resulting in the 5-limit version of [[valentine]] so that 31edo is the unique tuning that combines them. Furthermore, splitting the meantone fifth into two and three in the ways described above leads to meantone + miracle without tempering out [[225/224]], which interestingly, though a rank-2 temperament, only has 31edo as a [[patent val]] tuning (corresponding to also tempering out 225/224).


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13 -25 29|, &lt;0 1 4 10 18 -16|]
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include
EDOs: 12, 31, 43, 74
* ''[[Plutus]]'' (+15/14) → [[Very low accuracy temperaments #Plutus|Very low accuracy temperaments]]
Badness: 0.0259
* [[Godzilla]] (+49/48) → [[Semaphoresmic clan #Godzilla|Semaphoresmic clan]]
* [[Mothra]] (+1029/1024) → [[Gamelismic clan #Mothra|Gamelismic clan]]
* ''[[Mohaha]]'' (+121/120) → [[Rastmic clan #Mohaha|Rastmic clan]]


==Meanpop==
The rest are considered below.
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 126/125, 385/384


[[11-limit]] [[minimax]] 1/4 comma
== Septimal meantone ==
[|1 0 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0 0&gt;,
<div style="float:right">[[:de:septimal-mitteltönig|Deutsch]]</div>
|-3 0 5/2 0 0&gt;, |11 0 -13/4 0 0&gt;]
{{Main| Meantone #Septimal meantone}}
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
{{Wikipedia| Septimal meantone temperament }}


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 696.434
In septimal meantone, ten fifths get to the interval class for 7, so that [[7/4]] is an augmented sixth (C–A♯), [[7/6]] is an augmented second (C–D♯), [[7/5]] is an augmented fourth (C–F♯), and [[21/16]] is an augmented third (C–E♯). This mapping is rationalized by the fact that 81/80 factors as ([[126/125]])⋅([[225/224]]), and septimal meantone tempers out both of these commas as well as their difference, [[3136/3125]]. In fact it can be defined as the 7-limit temperament that tempers out any two of 81/80, 126/125, 225/224, and 3136/3125.  


[[Algebraic generator]]: Cybozem; or else Radieubiz, the real root of 3x^3+6x-19. Unlike Cybozem, the recurrence for Radieubiz does not converge.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13 24|, &lt;0 1 4 10 -13|]
[[Comma list]]: 81/80, 126/125
[[Generator]]s: 2, 3
EDOs: [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], [[31edo|31]], [[81edo|81]], [[112edo|112]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0215


===13-limit Meanpop===
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -4 -13 | 0 1 4 10 }}
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 105/104, 144/143, 196/195


POTE generator: ~3/2 = 696.211
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
* [[WE]]: ~2 = 1201.2358{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2122{{c}}
: [[error map]]: {{val| +1.236 -3.507 +2.535 -0.412 }}
* [[CWE]]: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.6562{{c}}
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -5.299 +0.311 -2.264 }}


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13 24|, &lt;0 1 4 10 -13|]
[[Minimax tuning]]:
EDOS: [[7edo|7]], [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], [[31edo|31]], [[50edo|50]], [[81edo|81]], [[131edo|131]]
* [[7-odd-limit|7-]] and [[9-odd-limit]]: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 0 0 1/4 }} (1/4-comma)
[[Badness]]: 0.0209
: [[projection map]]: {{monzo list| 1 0 0 0 | 1 0 1/4 0 | 0 0 1 0 | -3 0 5/2 0 }}
: [[eigenmonzo basis|unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis]]: 2.5


==Meanenneadecal==
[[Tuning ranges]]:
[[Comma]]s: 45/44, 56/55, 81/80
* 7- and 9-odd-limit [[diamond monotone]]: ~3/2 = [694.737, 700.000] (11\19 to 7\12)
* 7-odd-limit [[diamond tradeoff]]: ~3/2 = [694.786, 701.955] (1/3-comma to Pyth.)
* 9-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.)


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 696.250
[[Algebraic generator]]: Cybozem, the real root of 15''x''<sup>3</sup> - 10''x''<sup>2</sup> - 18, 503.4257 cents. The recurrence converges quickly.


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13 -6|, &lt;0 1 4 10 6|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 12, 19, 31, 81, 112b, 143b }}
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], [[31edo|31]], [[50edo|50]], [[81edo|81]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0214


===13-limit===
[[Badness]] (Sintel): 0.347
[[Comma]]s: 45/44, 56/55, 78/77, 81/80


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~3/2 = 696.146
=== Undecimal meantone (huygens) ===
{{Redirect|Huygens|the Dutch mathematician, physicist and astronomer|Wikipedia: Christiaan Huygens}}
{{See also| Huygens vs meanpop }}


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -13 -6 -20|, &lt;0 1 4 10 6 15|]
Undecimal meantone<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_6048.html#6052 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''good 11-limit meantones'']</ref> a.k.a. huygens<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10437.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''The meantone family'']</ref><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004">[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10864.html#10870 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''names and definitions: meantone'']</ref> maps the [[11/8]] to the double-augmented third (C–E𝄪). See [[chords of huygens]] for a list of dyadic chords in this temperament.
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], [[31edo|31]], [[50edo|50]], [[131edo|131]], [[181edo|181]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0212


=Flattone=
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 525/512


The [[wedgie]] for flattone is &lt;&lt;1 4 -9 4 -17 -32||, which tells us among other things that 9 generator steps of 4/3 get to the interval class for 7, meaning that [[7_4|7/4]] is a diminished minor seventh interval. Other intervals are [[7_6|7/6]], a diminished minor third, and [[7_5|7/5]], a doubly diminshed fifth. Good tunings for flattone are [[26edo]], [[45edo]] and [[64edo]].
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125


[[7-limit]] minimax
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 | 0 1 4 10 18 }}
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |21/13 0 1/13 -1/13&gt;,
|32/13 0 4/13 -4/13&gt;, |32/13 0 -9/13 9/13&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 7/5


[[9-limit]] minimax
Optimal tunings:
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |17/11 2/11 0 -1/11&gt;,
* WE: ~2 = 1200.7636{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.4122{{c}}
|24/11 8/11 0 -4/11&gt;, |34/11 -18/11 0 9/11&gt;]
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.0315{{c}}
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 9/7


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 693.779
Minimax tuning:
* 11-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 9/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}
: projection map: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 25/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}, {{monzo| 9/4 -1/2 0 0 1/4 }}, {{monzo| 21/8 -5/4 0 0 5/8 }}, {{monzo| 25/8 -9/4 0 0 9/8 }}]
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9


Algebraic generator: Squarto, the positive root of 8x^2-4x-9, at 506.3239 cents, equal to (1+sqrt(19))/4.
Tuning ranges:  
* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [696.774, 700.000] (18\31 to 7\12)
* 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.)


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 17|, &lt;0 1 4 -9|]
Algebraic generator: Traverse, the positive real root of ''x''<sup>4</sup> + 2''x'' - 13, or 696.9529 cents.
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;1 4 -9 4 -17 -32||
[[Generator]]s: 2, 3
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[19edo|19]], [[45edo|45]], [[64edo|64]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0386


=Dominant=
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 19e, 31, 105, 136b }}
[[Comma]]s: 36/35, 64/63


The wedgie for dominant is &lt;&lt;1 4 -2 4 -6 -16||. Now the interval class for 7 is obtained from two fourths in succession, so that 7/4 is a minor seventh. The 7/6 interval is, like 6/5, now a minor third, and 7/5 is a diminished fifth. An excellent tuning for dominant is [[12edo]], but it also works well with the Pythagorean tuning of pure [[3_2|3/2]] fifths, and with [[29edo]], [[41edo]], or [[53edo]].
Badness (Sintel): 0.563


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 701.573
; Music
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Meneghin/Claudi-Meneghin-Twinkle-canon-74-edo.mp3 ''Twinkle canon – 74 edo''] by [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/573 Claudi Meneghin]


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 6|, &lt;0 1 4 -2|]
==== Grosstone ====
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;1 4 -2 4 -6 -16||
Grosstone, named for tempering out the [[grossma]], is the main extension of interest that extends undecimal meantone to the 13-limit. It maps 13/8 to the double-diminished seventh (C–B♭♭♭). Note also that 11/10 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11~13/12 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a triple-augmented seventh octave reduced. Grosstone is flexible with its tunings; among the good tunings are [[31edo]], [[43edo]], and [[74edo]].  
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[7edo|7]], [[12edo|12]], [[53edo|53]], [[65edo|65]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0207


=Sharptone=
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
[[Comma]]s: 21/20, 28/27


Sharptone, with a wedgie &lt;&lt;1 4 3 4 2 -4||, is a low-accuracy temperament tempering out 21/20 and 28/27. In sharptone, a 7/4 is a major sixth, a 7/6 a whole tone, and a 7/5 a fourth. Genuinely septimal sounding harmony therefore cannot be expected, but it can be used to translate, more or less, 7-limit JI into 5-limit meantone. [[12edo]] tuning does sharptone about as well as such a thing can be done.
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 144/143


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 700.140
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 29 | 0 1 4 10 18 -16 }}


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -2|, &lt;0 1 4 3|]
Optimal tunings:  
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;1 4 3 4 2 -4||
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9389{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2282{{c}}
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[12edo|12]]
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2627{{c}}
[[Badness]]: 0.0248


=Injera=
Minimax tuning:
[[Comma]]s: 50/49, 81/80
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 8/13 0 0 1/26 0 -1/26 }}
: eigenmonzo basis (unchanged-interval basis): 2.13/7


The wedgie for injera is &lt;&lt;2 8 8 8 7 -4||, which tells us it has a half-octave period and a generator which can be taken as a fifth or fourth, but also as a 15/14 semitone difference between a half-octave and a perfect fifth. Injera tempers out 50/49, equating 7/5 with 10/7 and giving a tritone of half an octave. A major third up from this tritone is the 7/4. [[38edo]], which is two parallel [[19edo]]s, is an excellent tuning for injera.
Tuning ranges:
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [696.774, 697.674] (18\31 to 25\43)
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.)


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 694.375
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 31, 43, 74 }}


Map: [&lt;2 0 -8 -7|, &lt;0 1 4 4|]
Badness (Sintel): 1.07
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;2 8 8 8 7 -4||
EDOs: [[12edo|12]], [[26edo|26]], [[38edo|38]], [[140edo|140]], [[178edo|178]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0311


=Godzilla=  
===== 17-limit =====
Main article: [[Semiphore and Godzilla]]
This extension maps 17/16 to the minor second (C–D♭), and 19/16 to the minor third (C–E♭), suitable for a system generated by a mildly tempered fifth.
[[Comma]]s: 49/48, 81/80


Godzilla has wedgie &lt;&lt;2 8 1 8 -4 -20||, and tempers out 49/48, equating 8/7 with 7/6. Two of the step-and-a-quarter intervals these represent give a fourth, and so step-and-a-quarter generators generate godzilla. [[19edo]] is the perfect godzilla tuning, so much so that's there's not much point in looking elsewhere. Hence it can be more or less equated with taking 4\19 as a generator. MOS are of 5, 9, or 14 notes.
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 252.635
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 2|, &lt;0 2 8 1|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 29 12 | 0 1 4 10 18 -16 -5 }}
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;2 8 1 8 -4 -20||
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[9edo|9]], [[14edo|14]], [[19edo|19]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0267


==Music==
Optimal tunings:
[[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Bobro/GodzillaExample.mp3|Godzilla Example]] by [[Cameron Bobro]]
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5811{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.0918{{c}}
[[http://tinyurl.com/4uyumk9|"Change is on the Wind"]] in Godzilla[9] by [[Igliashon Jones]]
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.3303{{c}}


=Mohajira=
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 31, 43, 74g }}
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 6144/6125


Mohajira, with wedgie &lt;&lt;2 8 -11 8 -23 -48||, really makes more sense as an 11-limit temperament. It has a generator of a neutral third, two of which make up a fifth, and which can be taken to represent 128/105. Mohajira tempers out 6144/6125, the porwell comma. [[31edo]] makes for an excellent (7-limit) mohajira tuning, with generator 9/31. It has a 7-note MOS with three larger steps and four smaller ones, going sLsLsLs.
Badness (Sintel): 1.06


Mohajira can also be thought of, intuitively, as "meantone with quarter tones"; as is the 3/2 generator subdivided in half, so is the 25/24 chromatic semitone divided into two equal ~33/32 quarter tones (in the 11-limit). Within this paradigm, mohajira is the temperament that splits the 3/2 into two equal 11/9's, that splits the 6/5 into two equal 11/10's, that maps four 3/2's to 5/1, and that maps the interval one quarter tone flat of 16/9 to 7/4.
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


[[7-limit|7]] and [[9-limit]] minimax 1/4 comma
Comma list: 81/80, 96/95, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125, 144/143
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0&gt;, |6 0 -11/8 0&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 348.415
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 29 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 18 -16 -5 -3 }}


Algebraic generator: Mohabis, real root of 3x^3-3x^2-1, 348.6067 cents. Corresponding recurrence converges quickly.
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.2931{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.9690{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.3736{{c}}


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 6|, &lt;0 2 8 -11|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12, 31, 43, 74gh }}
[[Generator]]s: 2, 128/105
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;2 8 -11 8 -23 -48||
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[24edo|24]], [[31edo|31]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0557


==11-limit==
Badness (Sintel): 1.07
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 121/120, 176/175


[[11-limit]] minimax 1/4 comma
==== Fokkertone ====
[|1 0 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0 0&gt;,
Fokkertone maps the [[13/8]] to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪). Note that the minor third conflates 13/11 with 6/5, and that 11/10~13/12 is a double-augmented unison; 12/11 is a double-diminished third; and 14/13 is a minor second. 31edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only 13-odd-limit diamond monotone tuning.
|6 0 -11/8 0 0&gt;, |2 0 5/8 0 0&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 348.477
This extension used to be known as ''tridecimal meantone'', but was decanonicalized in 2025.  


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 6 2|, &lt;0 2 8 -11 5|]
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
[[Generator]]s: 2, 11/9
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[24edo|24]], [[31edo|31]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0261


=Maqamic=
Comma list: 66/65, 81/80, 99/98, 105/104
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 36/35, 121/120


Maqamic temperament is much like Mohajira, except in that it 36/35 vanishes instead of 176/175. It makes the most sense if viewed as an adaptive temperament, whereby 7/4 and 9/5 simply share an equivalence class in the resulting scales, but don't need to share a particular tempered "middle-of-the-road" intonation.
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -20 | 0 1 4 10 18 15 }}


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 350.934
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1200.8149{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.1155{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.7085{{c}}


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 4 2|, &lt;0 2 8 -4 5|]
Minimax tuning:  
[[Generator]]s: 2, 11/9
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 9/16 -1/8 0 0 1/16 }}
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[10edo|10c]], [[17edo|17c]], [[24edo|24d]], [[31edo|31d]]
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.11/9


==13-limit==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 19e, 31 }}
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 36/35, 121/120, 144/143


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 350.816
Badness (Sintel): 0.746


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 4 2 4|, &lt;0 2 8 -4 5 -1|]
===== 17-limit =====
Generators: 2, 11/9
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[10edo|10c]], [[17edo|17c]], [[24edo|24d]],[[31edo| 31d]]


=Mothra=
Comma list: 66/65, 81/80, 99/98, 105/104, 120/119
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 1029/1024


Mothra, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 12 -1 12 -10 -36||, splits the fifth into three 8/7 generators. It uses 1029/1024, the gamelisma, to accomplish this deed and also tempers out 1728/1715, the orwell comma. Using [[31edo]] with a generator of 6/31 is an excellent tuning choice. Once again something other than a MOS should be used as a scale to get the most out of mothra.
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -20 12 | 0 1 4 10 18 15 -5 }}


[[7-limit|7]] and [[9-limit]] minimax 1/4 comma
Optimal tunings:
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0&gt;, |3 0 -1/12 0&gt;]
* WE: ~2 = 1199.5548{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.7449{{c}}
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.9823{{c}}


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 232.193
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 31 }}


Algebraic generator: Rabrindanath, largest real root of x^8-3x^2+1, or 232.0774 cents.
Badness (Sintel): 1.02


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 3|, &lt;0 3 12 -1|]
===== 19-limit =====
[[Generator]]s: 2, 8/7
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
[[Wedgie]]: &lt;&lt;3 12 -1 12 -10 -36||
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[26edo|26]], [[31edo|31]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0371


==11-limit==
Comma list: 66/65, 81/80, 96/95, 99/98, 105/104, 120/119
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 99/98, 385/384


POTE generator: ~8/7 = 232.031
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -20 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 18 15 -5 -3 }}


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 3 5|, &lt;0 3 12 -1 -8|]
Optimal tunings:  
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[26edo|26]], [[31edo|31]], [[88edo|88]], [[150edo|150]], [[181edo|181]]
* WE: ~2 = 1199.0408{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.5824{{c}}
[[Badness]]: 0.0256
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.1061{{c}}


==13-limit==
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 31 }}
Commas: 81/80, 99/98, 105/104, 144/143


POTE generator: ~8/7 = 231.811
Badness (Sintel): 1.10


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 3 5 1|, &lt;0 3 12 -1 -8 14|]
==== Meridetone ====
EDOs: 5, 26, 31, 57, 88
Meridetone maps the 13/8 to the quadruple-augmented fourth (C–F𝄪𝄪). 43edo can be recommended as a tuning since it is the only 13-odd-limit diamond monotone tuning.  
Badness: 0.0240


=Squares=
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 2401/2400


Squares, with wedgie &lt;&lt;4 16 9 16 3 -24||, splits the interval of an eleventh, or 8/3, into four supermajor third ([[9_7|9/7]]) intervals, and uses it for a generator. [[31edo]], with a generator of 11/31, makes for a good squares tuning, with 8, 11, and 14 note MOS available. Squares tempers out 2401/2400, the breedsma, as well as 2430/2401.
Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 126/125


7 and 9 limit minimax 1/4 comma
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -39 | 0 1 4 10 18 27 }}
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0&gt;, |3/2 0 9/16 0&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 425.942
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1199.9122{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.4779{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.5241{{c}}


Algebraic generator: Sceptre2, the positive root of 9x^2+x-16, or (sqrt(577)-1)/18, which is 425.9311 cents.
Minimax tuning:  
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 14/25 -2/25 0 0 0 1/25 }}
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.13/9


Map: [&lt;1 3 8 6|, &lt;0 -4 -16 -9|]
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 31f, 43 }}
[[Generator]]s: 2, 9/7
EDOs: [[14edo|14]], [[31edo|31]], [[262edo|262]], [[293edo|293]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0460


Music:
Badness (Sintel): 1.09
By [[Chris Vaisvil]]
[[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/tuning-survey/daily20100603-squares8piano.mp3|Square 8]]


==11-limit==  
===== 17-limit =====
Commas: 81/80, 99/98, 121/120
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.957
Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125


Map: [&lt;1 3 8 6 7|, &lt;0 -4 -16 -9 -10|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -39 12 | 0 1 4 10 18 27 -5 }}
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[8edo|8]], [[11edo|11]], [[14edo|14]], [[17edo|17]], [[31edo|31]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0216


==13-limit==
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 81/80, 99/98, 121/120, 66/65
* WE: ~2 = 1199.3793{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2833{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.6222{{c}}


POTE generator: ~9/7 = 425.550
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 43 }}


Map: [&lt;1 3 8 6 7 3|, &lt;0 -4 -16 -9 -10 2|]
Badness (Sintel): 1.22
EDOs: [[5edo|5]], [[8edo|8]], [[11edo|11]], [[14edo|14]], [[17edo|17]], [[31edo|31]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0255


=Cuboctahedra=  
===== 19-limit =====
==11-limit==  
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 385/384, 1375/1372


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~9/7 = 425.993
Comma list: 78/77, 81/80, 96/95, 99/98, 120/119, 126/125


Map: [&lt;1 3 8 6 -4|, &lt;0 -4 -16 -9 21|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -39 12 9 | 0 1 4 10 18 27 -5 -3 }}
EDOs: [[14edo|14]], [[31edo|31]], [[45edo|45]], [[200edo|200]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0568


=Liese=  
Optimal tunings:
[[Comma]]s: 81/80, 686/675
* WE: ~2 = 1199.0260{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.1486{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.6887{{c}}


Liese, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 12 11 12 9 -8||, splits the twelfth interval of 3/1 into three generators of 10/7, using the comma 1029/1000. It also tempers out 686/675, the senga. [[74edo]] makes for a good liese tuning, though [[19edo]] can be used. The tuning is well-supplied with MOS: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55.
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 43 }}


7 and 9 limit minimax 1/4 comma
Badness (Sintel): 1.25
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0&gt;, |2/3 0 11/12 0&gt;]
[[Eigenmonzo]]s: 2, 5


[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 632.406
==== Hemimeantone ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Algebraic generator: Radix, the real root of x^5-2x^4+2x^3-2x^2+2x-2, also a root of x^6-x^5-2. The recurrence converges.
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 169/168


Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -3|, &lt;0 3 12 11|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -5 | 0 2 8 20 36 11 }}
[[Generator]]s: 2, 10/7
EDOs: [[17edo|17]], [[19edo|19]], [[55edo|55]], [[74edo|74]]
[[Badness]]: 0.0467


=Jerome=
: mapping generators: ~2, ~26/15
Jerome is related to [[20ed5|Hieronymus' tuning]]; the Hieronymus generator is 5^(1/20), or 139.316 cents. While the generator represents both 13/12 and 12/11, the POTE and Hieronymus generators are close to 13/12 in size.


Commas: 81/80, 17280/16807
Optimal tunings:  
* WE: ~2 = 1201.0387{{c}}, ~26/15 = 949.2863{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 948.5065{{c}}


POTE generator: ~54/49 = 139.343
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19e, 43, 62 }}


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 2|, &lt;0 5 20 7|]
Badness (Sintel): 1.30
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;5 30 7 20 -3 -40||
EDOs: 8, 9, 17, 26, 43, 112
Badness: 0.1087


==11-limit==  
===== 17-limit =====
Commas: 81/80, 99/98, 864/847
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17


POTE generator: ~12/11 = 139.428
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 169/168, 221/220


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 2 3|, &lt;0 5 20 7 4|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -5 -22 | 0 2 8 20 36 11 33 }}
EDOs: 8, 9, 17, 26, 43, 241
Badness: 0.0479


==13-limit==
Optimal tunings:
Commas: 77/78, 81/80, 99/98, 144/143
* WE: ~2 = 1201.0270{{c}}, ~26/15 = 949.2892{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~26/15 = 948.5169{{c}}


POTE generator: ~13/12 = 139.387
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19eg, 43, 62 }}


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 2 3 3|, &lt;0 5 20 7 4 6|]
Badness (Sintel): 1.19
EDOs: 8, 9, 17, 26, 43, 155, 198
Badness: 0.0293


==17-limit==  
===== 19-limit =====
Commas: 78/77, 81/80, 99/98, 144/143, 189/187
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


POTE generator: ~13/12 = 139.362
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 153/152, 169/168, 221/220


Map: [&lt;1 1 0 2 3 3 2|, &lt;0 5 20 7 4 6 18|]
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 -25 -5 -22 -25 | 0 2 8 20 36 11 33 37 }}
EDOs: 8, 9, 17, 26, 43, 155
 
Badness: 0.0209</pre></div>
Optimal tunings:
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* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~19/11 = 948.5111{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19egh, 43, 62 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.15
 
==== Semimeantone ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 847/845
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -50 -59 | 0 1 4 10 18 21 }}
 
: mapping generators: ~55/39, ~3
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~55/39 = 600.3606{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.4241{{c}}
* CWE: ~55/39 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.0545{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, …, 50eff, 62, 136b }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.68
 
===== 17-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 221/220, 289/288
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -50 -59 5 | 0 1 4 10 18 21 1 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.5426{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.5571{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.9858{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 50eff, 62, 136bg }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.60
 
===== 19-limit =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
 
Comma list: 81/80, 99/98, 126/125, 153/152, 209/208, 221/220
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 2 0 -8 -26 -50 -59 5 -1 | 0 1 4 10 18 21 1 3 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~17/12 = 600.5959{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.5985{{c}}
* CWE: ~17/12 = 600.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.9638{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12f, 50eff, 62 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.47
 
=== Meanpop ===
{{See also| Huygens vs meanpop }}
 
Meanpop<ref name="meantone & meanpop 2003"/><ref name="meantone & meanpop 2004"/> maps the 11/8 to the double-diminished fifth (C–G𝄫), and tridecimal meanpop maps the 13/8 to the double-augmented fifth (C–G𝄪), tempering out 144/143 like in grosstone. Note also 11/10 is a double-diminished third; 12/11~13/12, double-augmented unison; and 14/13, minor second.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
 
Comma list: 81/80, 126/125, 385/384
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 | 0 1 4 10 -13 }}
 
: mapping generator: ~2, ~3
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1201.3464{{c}}, ~3/2 = 697.2159{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.4509{{c}}
 
Minimax tuning:
* 11-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 0 0 1/4 }}
: projection map: [{{monzo| 1 0 0 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 1 0 1/4 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 0 0 1 0 0 }}, {{monzo| -3 0 5/2 0 0 }}, {{monzo| 11 0 -13/4 0 0 }}]
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.5
 
Tuning ranges:
* 11-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [694.737, 696.774] (11\19 to 18\31)
* 11-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.)
 
Algebraic generator: Cybozem; or else Radieubiz, the real root of 3''x''<sup>3</sup> + 6''x'' - 19. Unlike Cybozem, the recurrence for Radieubiz does not converge.
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 12e, 19, 31, 81, 112b }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.712
 
; Music
* [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/607 Scott Joplin's "The Entertainer" tuned into meanpop]{{dead link}}
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Meneghin/Claudi-Meneghin-Twinkle-canon-50-edo.mp3 ''Twinkle canon – 50 edo''] by [http://soonlabel.com/xenharmonic/archives/573 Claudi Meneghin]
 
==== Tridecimal meanpop ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
 
Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 144/143
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1201.0765{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8361{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.2347{{c}}
 
Minimax tuning:
* 13- and 15-odd-limit: ~3/2 = {{monzo| 4/7 0 0 0 -1/28 1/28 }}
: unchanged-interval (eigenmonzo) basis: 2.13/11
 
Tuning ranges:
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond monotone: ~3/2 = [694.737, 696.774] (11\19 to 18\31)
* 13- and 15-odd-limit diamond tradeoff: ~3/2 = [691.202, 701.955] (1/2-comma to Pyth.)
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19, 31, 50, 81 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 0.863
 
===== Meanpoppic =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 144/143, 273/272
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 -37 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 26 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1201.0727{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8168{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.2195{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19g, 31, 50, 81, 131bd }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.02
 
====== 19-limit ======
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
 
Comma list: 81/80, 105/104, 126/125, 144/143, 153/152, 273/272
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -4 -13 24 -20 -37 -40 | 0 1 4 10 -13 15 26 28 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* WE: ~2 = 1201.0719{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.8101{{c}}
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000{{c}}, ~3/2 = 696.2137{{c}}
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 19gh, 31, 50, 81 }}
 
Badness (Sintel): 1.08
 
===== Meanpoid =====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 81/80, 105/104
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