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The '''vulture family''' of [[temperament]]s [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[vulture comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| 24 -21 4 }}, [[ratio]]: 10485760000/10460353203), a small [[5-limit]] comma of 4.2 [[cent]]s.  
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The '''vulture family''' of [[temperament]]s [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[vulture comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| 24 -21 4 }}, [[ratio]]: 10 485 760 000 / 10 460 353 203), a small [[5-limit]] comma of 4.2 [[cent]]s.  


Temperaments discussed elsewhere include [[Landscape microtemperaments #Terture|terture]]. Considered below are septimal vulture, buzzard, condor, eagle, and turkey.  
Temperaments discussed elsewhere include [[Landscape microtemperaments #Terture|terture]] and [[Buzzardsmic clan #Buzzard|buzzard]]. Considered below are septimal vulture, condor, eagle, and turkey.  


== Vulture ==
== Vulture ==
The generator of the vulture temperament is a grave fourth of [[320/243]], that is, a [[4/3|perfect fourth]] minus a [[81/80|syntonic comma]]. Four of these make a [[3/1|perfect twelfth]]. Its [[ploidacot]] is alpha-tetracot.  
The generator of the vulture temperament is a grave fourth of [[320/243]], that is, a [[4/3|perfect fourth]] minus a [[81/80|syntonic comma]]. Four of these make a [[3/1|perfect twelfth]]. Its [[ploidacot]] is alpha-tetracot. It is a member of the [[syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum]] with {{nowrap|''n'' {{=}} 4}}, so it equates a [[256/243|Pythagorean limma]] with a stack of four syntonic commas. It is also in the [[schismic–Mercator equivalence continuum]] with {{nowrap|''n'' {{=}} 4}}, so unless [[53edo]] is used as a tuning, the [[schisma]] is always observed.  


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
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{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 53, 164, 217, 270, 323, 2531, 2854b, 3177b, …, 4469b }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 53, 164, 217, 270, 323, 2531, 2854b, 3177b, …, 4469b }}


[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.041431
[[Badness]]:
* Smith: 0.041431
* Dirichlet: 0.972


== Septimal vulture ==
== Septimal vulture ==
Septimal vulture can be described as the {{nowrap| 53 & 270 }} microtemperament, tempering out the [[ragisma]], 4375/4374 and the [[garischisma]], 33554432/33480783 ({{monzo| 25 -14 0 -1 }}) aside from the vulture comma. [[270edo]] is a good tuning for this temperament, with generator 107\270. Due to being a microtemperament, to find the mapping of 7, you need 56 generators, so that the smallest mos scale that finds it is the 58-note one, though for larger scope for harmony, you could try the 111- or 164-note one. (For a much simpler mapping of 7 at the cost of higher error, you could try [[#Buzzard]].)
Septimal vulture can be described as the {{nowrap| 53 & 270 }} microtemperament, tempering out the [[ragisma]], 4375/4374 and the [[garischisma]], 33554432/33480783 ({{monzo| 25 -14 0 -1 }}) aside from the vulture comma. [[270edo]] is a good tuning for this temperament, with generator 107\270. The harmonic 7 is found at -14 fifths or {{nowrap| (-14) × 4 {{=}} -56 }} generator steps, so that the smallest [[mos scale]] that includes it is the 58-note one, though for larger scope of harmony, you could try the 111- or 164-note one. For a much simpler mapping of 7 at the cost of higher error, you could try [[#Buzzard|buzzard]].  
 
It can be extended to the 11-limit by identifying a stack of four [[5/4]]'s as [[11/9]], tempering out [[5632/5625]], and to the 13-limit by identifying the hemitwelfth as [[26/15]], tempering out [[676/675]]. Furthermore, the generator of vulture is very close to [[25/19]]; a stack of three generator steps octave-reduced thus represents its fifth complement, [[57/50]]. This corresponds to tempering out [[1216/1215]] with the effect of equating the schisma with [[513/512]] and [[361/360]] in addition to many 11- and 13-limit commas. 270edo remains an excellent tuning in all cases.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -6 25 | 0 4 21 -56 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -6 25 | 0 4 21 -56 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 21 -56 24 -100 -189 }}


[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
[[Optimal tuning]]s:  
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Badness (Smith): 0.018758
Badness (Smith): 0.018758


==== 17-limit ====
==== 2.3.5.7.11.13.19 subgroup ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
 
Comma list: 676/675, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1225/1224, 4096/4095
 
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 25 -33 -7 35 | 0 4 21 -56 92 27 -78 }}
 
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000, ~112/85 = 475.5613
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.0000, ~112/85 = 475.5617
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 217, 270, 487, 757g }}
 
Badness (Smith): 0.020103
 
==== 19-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19


Comma list: 676/675, 936/935, 1001/1000, 1216/1215, 1225/1224, 1540/1539
Comma list: 676/675, 1001/1000, 1216/1215, 1540/1539, 1729/1728


Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 25 -33 -7 35 -12 | 0 4 21 -56 92 27 -78 41 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 25 -33 -7 -12 | 0 4 21 -56 92 27 41 }}


Optimal tunings:  
Optimal tunings:  
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000, ~25/19 = 475.5606
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.0000, ~25/19 = 475.5561
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.0000, , ~25/19 = 475.5615
* CWE: ~2 = 1200.0000, , ~25/19 = 475.5569


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 217, 270, 487, 757g }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 217, 270 }}


Badness (Smith): 0.013850
Badness (Smith): 0.00704


=== Semivulture ===
=== Semivulture ===
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Badness (Smith): 0.035458
Badness (Smith): 0.035458
== Buzzard ==
{{Main| Buzzard }}
{{See also| No-fives subgroup temperaments #Buzzard }}
Buzzard is the main extension to vulture of practical interest, finding prime 7 at only 3 generators down so that the generator is interpreted as a sharp ~[[21/16]], but is more of a full 13-limit system in its own right. It is most naturally described as 53 & 58 (though [[48edo]] is an interesting higher-damage tuning of it for some purposes). As one might expect, 111edo is a great tuning for it. [[mos scale]]s of 3, 5, 8, 13, 18, 23, 28, 33, 38, 43, 48 or 53 notes are available.
Its [[S-expression]]-based comma list is {[[1728/1715|S6/S7]], [[5120/5103|S8/S9]]}, with the structure of its 7-limit implied by these equivalences combined with the nontrivial [[JI]] equivalence [[36/35|S6]] = [[64/63|S8]] × [[81/80|S9]]. [[Hemifamity]] leverages it by splitting [[36/35]] into two syntonic~septimal commas, so buzzard naturally finds an interval between [[6/5]] and [[7/6]] which in the 7-limit is [[32/27]] and in the 13-limit is [[13/11]]. Then the vanish of the orwellisma implies [[49/48]], the large septimal diesis, is equated with 36/35, so 49/48 is also split into two so that the system also finds an interval between 7/6 and 8/7 which in the 7-limit is 7/6 inflected down by a comma or 8/7 inflected up by a comma, and in the 13-limit is [[15/13]], so that it is clear this system naturally wants to be extended to and interpreted in the full 13-limit.
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Comma list]]: 1728/1715, 5120/5103
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 0 -6 4 | 0 4 21 -3 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 4 21 -3 24 -16 -66 }}
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.555
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 +0.263 +0.333 +4.510 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.636
: error map: {{val| 0.000 +0.589 +2.045 +4.266 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 48, 53, 111, 164d, 275d }}
[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.047963
=== 11-limit ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 176/175, 540/539, 5120/5103
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 4 -12 | 0 4 21 -3 39 }}
Wedgie: {{multival| 4 21 -3 39 24 -16 48 -66 18 120 }}
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.625
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.700
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111, 280cd }}
Badness (Smith): 0.034484
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 176/175, 351/350, 540/539, 676/675
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 4 -12 -7 | 0 4 21 -3 39 27 }}
Wedgie: {{multival| 4 21 -3 39 27 24 -16 48 28 -66 18 -15 120 87 -51 }}
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.615
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.697
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111, 280cdf }}
Badness (Smith): 0.018842
==== 17-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17
Comma list: 176/175, 256/255, 351/350, 442/441, 540/539
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 4 -12 -7 14 | 0 4 21 -3 39 27 -25 }}
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.638
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.692
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58, 111 }}
Badness (Smith): 0.018403
==== 19-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17.19
Comma list: 176/175, 256/255, 286/285, 324/323, 351/350, 540/539
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 4 -12 -7 14 -12 | 0 4 21 -3 39 27 -25 41 }}
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.617
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.679
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 53, 58h, 111 }}
Badness (Smith): 0.015649
=== Buteo ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Comma list: 99/98, 385/384, 2200/2187
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 4 9 | 0 4 21 -3 -14 }}
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.454
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.436
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 48, 53 }}
Badness (Smith): 0.060238
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Comma list: 99/98, 275/273, 385/384, 572/567
Mapping: {{mapping| 1 0 -6 4 9 -7 | 0 4 21 -3 -14 27 }}
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.495
* POTE: ~2 = 1200.000, ~21/16 = 475.464
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 48f, 53 }}
Badness (Smith): 0.039854


== Condor ==
== Condor ==
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 8 36 29 | 0 -12 -63 -49 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 8 36 29 | 0 -12 -63 -49 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 12 63 49 72 44 -63 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~81/56 = 641.4791
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~81/56 = 641.4791
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: mapping generators: ~177147/125440, ~28/27
: mapping generators: ~177147/125440, ~28/27
{{Multival|legend=1|16 84 46 96 28 -129}}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~177147/125440 = 1\2, ~28/27 = 62.229
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~177147/125440 = 1\2, ~28/27 = 62.229
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{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 8 36 0 | 0 -16 -84 7 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 1 8 36 0 | 0 -16 -84 7 }}
{{Multival|legend=1|16 84 -7 96 -56 -252}}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~1715/1296 = 481.120
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~1715/1296 = 481.120
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