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'''16875/16384''' is the 51.120 [[cent]] interval called the '''negri comma''' or double augmentation diesis. It is the amount by which four major thirds exceed three fourths, that is, ([[5/4]])<sup>4</sup>/([[4/3]])<sup>3</sup>, and is also the amount by which three [[16/15|diatonic semitones (16/15)]] fall short of a major third, that is, (5/4)/(16/15)<sup>3</sup>. It factors into simpler commas as ([[81/80]])([[3125/3072]]), the syntonic comma and the magic comma. Tempering it out leads to [[5-limit]] [[negri]] temperament, which is closely associated with [[19edo]].
'''16875/16384''' is the 51.120 [[cent]] interval called the '''negri comma''' or double augmentation diesis. It is the amount by which four classical major thirds exceed three fourths, that is, ([[5/4]])<sup>4</sup>/([[4/3]])<sup>3</sup>, and is also the amount by which three [[16/15|diatonic semitones (16/15)]] fall short of a classical major third, that is, (5/4)/(16/15)<sup>3</sup>. Another characterization of this comma is the difference between the [[256/243|Pythagorean limma (256/243)]] and a stack of two [[25/24|classical chromas (25/24)]].
 
It factors into simpler commas as ([[81/80]])([[3125/3072]]), the syntonic comma and the magic comma. In the [[7-limit]], it factors into ([[225/224]])⋅([[525/512]]), (225/224)<sup>2</sup>⋅([[49/48]]), or (225/224)<sup>3</sup>⋅([[686/675]]).
 
== Temperaments ==
Tempering it out leads to [[5-limit]] [[negri]] temperament, which is closely associated with [[19edo]].  


== Etymology ==
== Etymology ==

Latest revision as of 10:15, 13 April 2026

Interval information
Ratio 16875/16384
Factorization 2-14 × 33 × 54
Monzo [-14 3 4
Size in cents 51.11986¢
Name negri comma
Color name Ly4-2, Laquadyo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{dd}{-2}^{5,5,5,5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced harmonic
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 28.0426
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 28.0852
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 57
Comma size medium
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16875/16384 is the 51.120 cent interval called the negri comma or double augmentation diesis. It is the amount by which four classical major thirds exceed three fourths, that is, (5/4)4/(4/3)3, and is also the amount by which three diatonic semitones (16/15) fall short of a classical major third, that is, (5/4)/(16/15)3. Another characterization of this comma is the difference between the Pythagorean limma (256/243) and a stack of two classical chromas (25/24).

It factors into simpler commas as (81/80)⋅(3125/3072), the syntonic comma and the magic comma. In the 7-limit, it factors into (225/224)⋅(525/512), (225/224)2⋅(49/48), or (225/224)3⋅(686/675).

Temperaments

Tempering it out leads to 5-limit negri temperament, which is closely associated with 19edo.

Etymology

The corresponding temperament was discovered first, dubbed negri by Paul Erlich in late 2001[1] after John Negri's 10-out-of-19 maximally even scale[2]. The comma was at one point dubbed negrisma by Gene Ward Smith in late 2002, though it was negri comma that stuck[3][4].

See also

Notes