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'''176/175''', the '''valinorsma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[11-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 9.9 [[cent]]s. It is the amount by which [[11/7]] exceeds two [[5/4]]'s stacked, that is, the difference between 11/7 and [[25/16]], [[8/7]] and [[25/22]], [[14/11]] and [[32/25]], [[15/11]] and [[48/35]], or [[22/15]] and [[35/24]].  
'''176/175''', the '''valinorsma''', is a [[11-limit]] [[small comma]] measuring about 9.9 cents. It is amount by which [[11/7]] exceeds two [[5/4]]'s stacked, that is, the difference between 11/7 and [[25/16]], [[8/7]] and [[25/22]], [[14/11]] and [[32/25]], [[15/11]] and [[48/35]], or [[22/15]] and [[35/24]].  


176/175 factors neatly into two [[13-limit]] [[superparticular]] commas: ([[352/351]])([[351/350]]).  
176/175 factors neatly into two [[13-limit]] [[superparticular]] commas: ([[352/351]])([[351/350]]).  


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma leads to the rank-4 '''valinorsmic temperament''' (→ [[Rank-4 temperament #Valinorsmic (176/175)]]), and enables [[valinorsmic chords]]. See [[Valinorsmic clan]] for the clan of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out.  
Tempering out this comma leads to the rank-4 '''valinorsmic temperament''' (→ [[Rank-4 temperament #Valinorsmic (176/175)]]), or in the 2.5.7.11 subgroup, the [[valinor]] temperament, enabling [[valinorsmic chords]]. See [[Valinorsmic clan]] for the clan of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out.
 
== Etymology ==
The name seems to originally have been a portmanteau of "[[valentine]]", "[[orwell]]", and possibly an additional temperament, all of which temper out this comma in the 11-limit, as was a common custom for naming commas. However, the name has been re-interpreted as referring to "Valinor", a location in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth, and various temperaments in the valinorsmic clan have been named after the Valar, that realm's inhabitants.


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Small comma]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]
* [[List of superparticular intervals]]


[[Category:Valinorsmic]]
[[Category:Valinorsmic]]
[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]]
[[Category:Commas with unknown etymology]]

Latest revision as of 22:15, 8 January 2026

Interval information
Ratio 176/175
Factorization 24 × 5-2 × 7-1 × 11
Monzo [4 0 -2 -1 1
Size in cents 9.864608¢
Name Valinorsma
Color name 1orgg1, lorugugu 1sn,
Lorugugu comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{d1}^{11}_{5,5,7} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 14.9106
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 14.9189
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 36
Comma size small
S-expressions S8/S10,
S22⋅S23⋅S24
Open this interval in xen-calc

176/175, the valinorsma, is a small 11-limit comma measuring about 9.9 cents. It is the amount by which 11/7 exceeds two 5/4's stacked, that is, the difference between 11/7 and 25/16, 8/7 and 25/22, 14/11 and 32/25, 15/11 and 48/35, or 22/15 and 35/24.

176/175 factors neatly into two 13-limit superparticular commas: (352/351)(351/350).

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma leads to the rank-4 valinorsmic temperament (→ Rank-4 temperament #Valinorsmic (176/175)), or in the 2.5.7.11 subgroup, the valinor temperament, enabling valinorsmic chords. See Valinorsmic clan for the clan of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out.

Etymology

The name seems to originally have been a portmanteau of "valentine", "orwell", and possibly an additional temperament, all of which temper out this comma in the 11-limit, as was a common custom for naming commas. However, the name has been re-interpreted as referring to "Valinor", a location in J. R. R. Tolkien's Middle-earth, and various temperaments in the valinorsmic clan have been named after the Valar, that realm's inhabitants.

See also